Stable Diffusion, NovelAI, Machine Learning Art - AI art generation discussion and image dump

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Is SD 2 shit tier in comparison to earlier version because of this? I've heard a lot of people don't want to move beyond 1.4/1.5 because it's also incompatible with models trained for it. Really don't care for the direction they are taking the project.
You have to give them credit for making it open source so the public can just fork it themselves. All of the nsfw models are crowdfunded and i don't see why a general model couldn't be done in that way.
 
I'm glad more people are waking up to this entire point about the "MUH ART THEFT" argument.

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i have been seeing people upset about that new ai avatar trend going around now and when asked why they mention art theft and how artists art is sampled without consent and it got me to thinking. is this ai taking parts of other artists art styles not the exact same thing that regular artists do anyway?

like i dont mean tracing or copying art or anything like that but like looking at other peoples art styles and using it to create your own style. similar to how musicians are inspired by the ones before them so they will often have their own variation of a guitar riff or just the type of music they took inspiration from. if we are supposed to be mad at a machine for doing something that people already do are we also supposed to be mad at any artist who has a similar style to someone else?

to me art is something that comes from the soul. everyone has their own art style which no machine can copy. the people who are upset and complaining about art theft are just mad because they are either a shitty artist whos art style is not unique enough to be popular or they are mad because a machine can do the thing they have been doing but faster and easier.

you could make a robot paint a van gogh painting right now and it might look nice but that dont mean that painting would count as another van gogh painting. its just an imitation based on the information gathered. most artists art evolves over time and changes with their mood or the desired outcome. you can have an ai copy things and still have a need for actual artists.
 
to me art is something that comes from the soul. everyone has their own art style which no machine can copy. the people who are upset and complaining about art theft are just mad because they are either a shitty artist whos art style is not unique enough to be popular or they are mad because a machine can do the thing they have been doing but faster and easier.

you could make a robot paint a van gogh painting right now and it might look nice but that dont mean that painting would count as another van gogh painting. its just an imitation based on the information gathered. most artists art evolves over time and changes with their mood or the desired outcome. you can have an ai copy things and still have a need for actual artists.
We will see that artists' styles at all levels of competency can be copied effectively, with what should be considered beta software running on primitive 2D chips. Dumb machines will be able to copy an artist's style to the point where some of them will question if they made the art themselves but forgot about it.

If you have training images for distinct stages of an artist's career, you could make that an option. Van Gogh's style in 1885 vs. Van Gogh's style in 1889. Or you could ask the machine to "make lines rougher" or draw it like someone who is drunk, sad, happy, etc. I'm talking about future models with the right training. Maybe it will require hiring artists, scanning their brains, and drugging them just to get highly descriptive training data for THE MACHINE.

This is all just using dumb pattern matching, long before some form of real intelligence is simulated or created within some kind of advanced neuromorphic computer.
 
Hi. I'm gonna post art that Stable Diffusion Web provides as output for the next 5 unique random_text.txt that I receive.

1. ”SPREAD THE FACT”

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2. ”I googled it and found hentai.”

NOTE: Could not generate as-is. Had to use 'h3ntai' instead.

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3. "@sonic_hedgehog kind of uncool to fall back on memes that mock tranny people and feminism. what would eggman think?"

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4. “This might seem like a tall order, but maybe avoid homophobic slurs, repeatedly masturbating on stream, and violently threatening children.“

NOTE: Obviously could not generate as is. Had to modify entire prompt as "“This might seem like a tall order, but maybe avoid homophobic slurs, repeatedly m@sturbating on stream, and v1olently thr3atening ch1ldren.“."

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5. "We'll be in your dreams."

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I fucking hate this logic, because you can apply it to any job in any field.

"AI <any job> would allow companies to pay less and generate more. However, <plural worker title> will not be able to compete with the production pace. Therefore, they won't be able to generate money with their work and will have to stop focusing on <their job> so they can pay their bills."

Artists want to have their cake and eat it to, to simultaneously be creative types that are immune from market pressures AND be the common working man trying to pay his bills. Fucking pick one narrative and stick to it.

The other thing that pisses me off about this is the implication that artists are not privileged, when they're the only ones that can continue to do art even if every single paying job is totally taken over by robots. A trucker can't go drive a semi truck hauling freight across the country if his job is replaced by machine learning, but an artist can still do art if that's what they love doing.
 
Problem 1 is that most people don't know anything about how any of this works (problem 0 is that most people don't know anything).

But instead of arguing with someone who preemptively discourages other viewpoints and will never read this anyway, here's an AI generated image, of a photograph, of a portrait, of Gustave Courbet, a highly-skilled realist painter who thought photography would destroy art.

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Looked up this mans work, and quite frankly its MID!!!!!! He's just your run of the mill MTG artist, which means he has technical skills but lacks an appealing style. Boring, generic, and easily replicated or produced by anyone with an ounce of knowledge of anatomy/portrait work and the time on their hands.

Ironically I think a lot of artists fucked themselves by switching to digital over the last 2 decades, and there are a lot of artists that have only ever known how to draw/paint on wacom tablets in photoshop. Going forward I imainge if you want to make any decent cash creating art you're gonna need to do it in the physical mediums, and sell it to snobs.

Edit: if I can imagine Stan Prokopenko(who I should say is a great teacher imo, but not a particularly renowned artist despite his skill level) producing the same artwork as you given the correct prompts then you shouldn't be jerking yourself off about the value of your art.
 
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Hi. I'm gonna post art that Stable Diffusion Web provides as output for the next 5 unique random_text.txt that I receive.

1. ”SPREAD THE FACT”

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2. ”I googled it and found hentai.”

NOTE: Could not generate as-is. Had to use 'h3ntai' instead.

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3. "@sonic_hedgehog kind of uncool to fall back on memes that mock tranny people and feminism. what would eggman think?"

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4. “This might seem like a tall order, but maybe avoid homophobic slurs, repeatedly masturbating on stream, and violently threatening children.“

NOTE: Obviously could not generate as is. Had to modify entire prompt as "“This might seem like a tall order, but maybe avoid homophobic slurs, repeatedly m@sturbating on stream, and v1olently thr3atening ch1ldren.“."

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5. "We'll be in your dreams."

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I'm pretty sure it's just speaking R'lyehian
 
I used to be interested in digital art way back in the day when it was kinda new and also be interested in doing it myself, (both 3d rendering and drawing, it sounds like a tall order now but it just wasn't that big back then, you'd even do rendering mostly still on your single-core CPU when I started off ferchristsakes) and even back then all the online communities used to be these circle-jerking clique-y exclusive clubs and I often got the impression many of the more popular veterans really actually hated the process and mostly liked what they could get for it, be it asspats or cash. In the end the sheer time investment turned me off of it, but I still consider it a useful experience and I liked that I could do that blender donut tutorial the other year and still understand mostly what was going on. (still a massive timesink I just don't have the heart for tho)

Taking a quick look around online today it still looks like most "artists" still fucking hate to actually draw and are mostly interested in networking and finding niches to get that sweet gig money for doing that thing that they don't really like as little as possible for as much money as possible. I'm not surprised they tard out when that thing comes along that does what they torture themselves to do just faster, cheaper and sometimes better. It's still incredibly funny because of how early-chris these tard-rages often are and also that you don't really feel bad for them because they still act like pretentious assholes about it. While I think it is generally a question society needs to ask itself re: the needlessness of a workforce and what to do with all the people in an AI future, a smart artist now would try to figure out SD for himself and how to use it as an aid instead of perma-raging on twitter that they don't like current thing and there ought to be a law.
 
So, while my wife is decompressing from her actual job. I finally have time to rework some of my older generation.
I'm losing mind trying to figure out which checkpoints I did or did not merge together. At one point, this was just 1.4, then some novel, then some midjourney, then some porn, then more porn, then a lot more porn because they had better trained bodies, then some more anime, then some chinese shit, and I'm currently downing 2.0, perhaps that will let me unlock my final form?
Anyway. Adolph Hitler playing Yugioh part 2.



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Adolph Kanye under the Spoiler- Two of them are more communist Kanye and El Jefe YE though....


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