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Captain Syrup said:
Isn’t she the one that’s just Drummer from The Expanse?

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I thought too but no, it's a different actress. I'm sure they based the make-up and behavior on Drummer.

ProfDongs said:
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These people are insane.

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Nice grave you have DS9, would be a shame if something happened to it.
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You can see the lack of world building just by looking at that Ben Sisko reference. Nothing major happened thousands of years later.
 
zRayden940 said:
Yea i laughed when i realized it, I was like OMFG they are doing a SNW version of "Elementary, Dear Data" only with La'An
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It also misses what drove the conflict of the episode.
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When Geordi gave the prompt, the holographic Moriarty created was designed to be a match for a super advanced android like Data. La'an is just a regular human who can't process things as quickly as Data can. Maybe it could have worked if the episode centered around Number One, someone we know is an augment.

Alternatively, if you want to make this another nostalgia bait episode and make it about La'an, have her face off against a hologram of her Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great Grandpa Khan. She could say something like "I want to go up against one of history's greatest villains", so the Holodeck pumps out Holo-Khan.
ProfDongs said:
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Nice grave you have DS9, would be a shame if something happened to it.
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So did Cassidy never tell anyone what happened to her husband? Not even Jake, Kira or Dax?
Curzon Dax-sama said:
Nog died a Lieutenant. Ezri isn't even mentioned. They did a lot of people dirty with that memorial.
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Not only that, Paris and Bashir both died Lieutenants, while Mariner died a Commander.

Meanwhile, Sulu's daughter (Papa Sulu doesn't get mentioned), one of the teachers from Prodigy, and Samantha Wildman, of all people got promoted, and Garak became an ambassador.

Other people honored include the idiot Captain of the Enterprise-B who contributed to Kirk's death, Scotty's nephew who died in Wrath of Khan, two of the people from Red Squad who were killed by the Jem'Hadar, the first Chief of Security of Discovery who was mauled to death by a tardigrade, Mariner's Admiral dad

Other characters who got shafted include: Archer, T'Pol, Reed, Maxwell, Number One, Sulu, Geordi, Worf, Barclay, O'Brien, Kira, Odo, Ross, Janeway, and Tuvok.

Finally, at least a quarter of the memorial just had references to producers and actors on Star Trek, like Tawny Newsome and Jonathan Frakes.
 
I might have to unwatch this thread for a while. Nog and Bashir died Lieutenants? Good fucking God, man. I think I'm gonna be sick.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I might have to unwatch this thread for a while. Nog and Bashir died Lieutenants? Good fucking God, man. I think I'm gonna be sick.
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Naw in my head canon both of them are probably in higher up positions in Starfleet at this point. Comfy desk jobs mmm maybe but they're still trucking at this point. Maybe Nog is helping his dad and Miles design the new DS9. Bashir finally developed a cure for the blight on Teplan. Who knows but I'm not letting NuTrek get me down that much.
 
Clown College 2nd Year said:
Naw in my head canon both of them are probably in higher up positions in Starfleet at this point. Comfy desk jobs mmm maybe but they're still trucking at this point. Maybe Nog is helping his dad and Miles design the new DS9. Bashir finally developed a cure for the blight on Teplan. Who knows but I'm not letting NuTrek get me down that much.
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NuTrek doing Aron Eisenberg dirty like that is just wrong.
 
Clown College 2nd Year said:
Lol that's how I feel about all the jewsperging in the USPG2 thread, this thread is sort of my respite from all that, even though it is political.
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Politics ruins anything it comes into contact with. There can't be a thing left that hasn't been polluted by it on this Earth. There isn't a thing free from it, oh no, everything has to be about this histrionic shit. I'm so tired of it during the day, and when I come home, it goes on in my fucking entertainment. There is no faster track to full blown radicalisation than that.
 
New trek is so gay. You're better off listening to the Delta Flyers podcast with Tom Paris and Harry Kim where they recap the episodes of Voyager and ds9. The Sid City YouTube channel has an Alone Together series where Doctor Bashir and Garak (and some other cast members) reprise their roles and do readings from some fake script. Those things are vastly superior to whatever the fuck snw is trying to be. Alot less dudes in too tight pants. From my understanding only Gul Dukat can pull that off.
 
Ultraman Orb Dark said:
Other people honored include the idiot Captain of the Enterprise-B who contributed to Kirk's death,
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John Jason Harriman II was a new inexperienced captain on a ship missing half of its systems. Kirk took command and had Harriman stay on the bridge as it is was his time to be the captain of the Enterprise, not Kirk's. Harriman would be captain until he stepped down after the conclusion of the Tomed Incident* in 2311. *Federation psy-op crafted by Harriman to fuck with the Romulans into behaving themselves.
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
John Jason Harriman II was a new inexperienced captain on a ship missing half of its systems. Kirk took command and had Harriman stay on the bridge as it is was his time to be the captain of the Enterprise, not Kirk's. Harriman would be captain until he stepped down after the conclusion of the Tomed Incident* in 2311. *Federation psy-op crafted by Harriman to fuck with the Romulans into behaving themselves.
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Was this in one of the novels?
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
Ezri isn't even mentioned.
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The superior Dax once again memoryholed

Ultraman Orb Dark said:
Not only that, Paris and Bashir both died Lieutenants, while Mariner died a Commander.

Meanwhile, Sulu's daughter (Papa Sulu doesn't get mentioned), one of the teachers from Prodigy, and Samantha Wildman, of all people got promoted, and Garak became an ambassador.

Other people honored include the idiot Captain of the Enterprise-B who contributed to Kirk's death, Scotty's nephew who died in Wrath of Khan, two of the people from Red Squad who were killed by the Jem'Hadar, the first Chief of Security of Discovery who was mauled to death by a tardigrade, Mariner's Admiral dad

Other characters who got shafted include: Archer, T'Pol, Reed, Maxwell, Number One, Sulu, Geordi, Worf, Barclay, O'Brien, Kira, Odo, Ross, Janeway, and Tuvok.
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Okay what the fuck
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
I mean Enterprise and Voyager always had enjoyable parts to them, it was just overshadowed by the bad. Stuff like that can be looked back on fondly eventually because the further you get away from it, the more the good moments stand out amongst the lackluster stuff. It's what sticks with you and you can appreciate it more in hindsight (along with comparing it to something worse).
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I have babbled about this before, but fundamentally the difference in vibe is that the worst of old-trek never lost this feeling of earnestly if often/mostly ineptly of trying to prove itself to the audience, itself a consequence of being accountable to hard TV ratings rather than fluffy streaming statistical bullshit, and there were always people involved actually tried to turn the shit scripts and characterisations they were handed into something worth a damn whether out of genuine interest or just to make shit more enjoyable for themselves.

Nu-trek on the other hand was solely concerned with satisfying currentyear marketing/PR consultants and simpering media hacks who operated in the exact same professional and social spheres of said consultants and thus were effectively in lockstep with them. Every single Narrative beat, characterisation process, and casting decision was effectively dictated by this bubble of social media addicted BPD grifters and implemented by their harem of industry figures and professionals desperate to avoid being declared problematic or eager to get recognised for assisting in such a stunningly brave project. The audience never came in to the equation until they rejected the slop that was being served, at which point the archetypical "OUR DIVERSE AND EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE PRODUCT IS BEING CYBERHARASSED AND THREATENED BY NAZI BIGOT TROLL NURD FANBOYS!" media campaigns were kicked into action.

Anyway lets dig a lil deeper into just how bad the new slop serving will be....

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This chick has "The Captain" role in the series and given STD's obsession with hamfisted scenes where annoying middle aged women randomly interrupted male characters with snarled lectures on how shit they were compared to the stunningly brave protagonist women along with the charcter notes about how she is ""is there to command, to analyze in emergency situations, and then to delegate"/"is there to guide, to collaborate, and have tremendous empathy" I am guessing she will be some mix of this along with a shrill San Francisco schoolteacher trying to ape Picard in season 1 of TNG where his insufferable smugfuck was at its peak, although naturally with infinitely less gravitas, eloquence, competency, charm, likability, etc.

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According to the notes this Neo Cortex headed mulatto seems to be the alleged "viewpoint" character who needs everything explained to him because he is like a space orphan with mommy issues, who naturally latches on to captain elizabeth warren as his maternal figure, so expect moments of unintentional hilarity where the old white woman condescendingly yet patiently explains civilisation to the mixed race ooga booga

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Ok so klingon science officer yadda yadda yadda, but something about this specimen screams zesty to me, and a nigger faggot klingon is just so fucking in character for nu-trek so I am calling him as gay right here and now. Only question is whether there will be a buck breaking targ taming scene

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Ok I will just link some interview quotes to save myself the trouble
“I am a photonic. I am a hologram. So with that being said, Sam is programmed to feel a certain age. But she was literally only created, like weeks ago. So she’s like a newborn. Everything is so fresh to her. And that is just the most magical thing to go from. Because you’re back in a childlike state. And children, anatomically, your bones aren’t formed yet… I guess holograms don’t have bones, but emotional bones, you know what I am saying?”
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“She’s such a breath of fresh air for me to play. She brings absolutely no baggage. So she’s like a fresh newborn to so many experiences. She brings such a freshness and a levity to so many things… You know, when you grow up a certain way, you may react to certain things a certain way, it’s because of your environment and how that shaped you. No environment shaped her. She’s literally being shaped in front of your very eyes. And I think that has required for me to let go of my stuff and whatever I’m carrying. And to be able to do that to honor STEM has been the honor of a lifetime.”
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So a literal womanchild comic relief character played by a shaniqua so ugly I genuinely thought she had downs syndrome....ya know this might actually wind up being one of those "so jawdroppingly fucking annoying and insufferable they circle back round to being memetically hilarious" examples if we are lucky because holy shit this has the potential to be the most embarrassing shit we have seen yet in the franchise

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Apparently this is the designated evil rich privileged ffffucking huwyte(passing) male character of the series who exists to be humiliated and smugly lectured for his failings and inferiority, and thus either meekly grovel before the stunningly brave and diverse characters or become a perennial punching bag until he joins the bad guys to eventually be killed without hesitation

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Half hoped this would be Neelix's distant descendent having settled on Jersey shore and adopted the local customs including dicksuckin duck lips, but sadly no. She is the "good" rich priveleged character according to the notes, and thus she exists as an asspatter, fluffer and likely fucktoy for the viewpoint mullato and RoboShaniqua

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I suspect Fem Hadar will be as joyless and miserable a character as the actress is a comedian, albeit likely used for embarrassing attempts at awkward comedy as the straight man to whatever bullshit roboshaniqua is pulling. Basically imagine the Tuvok/Neelix dynamic but you are being forced to watch your mother being anally raped at the same time.

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Once again I will let the quotes do the work...
Their goal was to create a role that continued the grand tradition of complex Star Trek villains. Giamatti, in particular, embodies that real-world mirror the showrunners spoke of earlier. "One of the things that we see all across the world now is how much hate is relied on to sow division between things that connect us as human beings and how hate is used as a bludgeon to destroy empathy..."
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Without revealing too much, Kurtzman explains that Giamatti's character "represents a tide that has swept across the world in a very profound and upsetting way,"
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THIS SUMMER...PAUL GIAMATTI IS.....SPACE TRUMP (rated PG-13)

I think we are all in agreement this will be the best character.
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
John Jason Harriman II was a new inexperienced captain on a ship missing half of its systems. Kirk took command
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That sequence was deeply bizarre to me as a kid but then I got older and started to understand boomer slop. Harriman's crying in a war zone like “Wh-what’s a compass??” and then this 75-year-old sighs dramatically and says "We gotta turn the coolant valve counterclockwise,” and the young guy’s like “We should ask ChatGPT!!"
 
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