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Captain Syrup said:
Garth of Izar is like if Star Trek became a Classic Who episode. No brakes!

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The Orion slave girl kept getting green paint on his toupee and he stormed off set. That’s every Shatner freakout story. Something happens to his hair.:story:

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Garth of Izar is also the one Alec Peter's had a fetish for, ( Bought his screen used costumes , written fanfiction about ).

The same Alec Peters behind the Axanar fiasco

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I really love Robert Picardo's characters. The EMH and Zimmerman I thought were highlights of Voyager and were a delight to see in DS9 or the movies. Its to the point in my scifi D&D games I have made my own take on both of his characters and emulate his enunciation when voicing them

Seeing him defend new Trek so passionately and attack people who are annoyed at the direction Star Trek is going really really disappoints me. I wish he wouldnt talk so vocally about politics and would have better respect for the fiction he took part in.
Are any of the other actors from the shows/movies like this?
 
One_True_Yuri said:
I really love Robert Picardo's characters. The EMH and Zimmerman I thought were highlights of Voyager and were a delight to see in DS9 or the movies. Its to the point in my scifi D&D games I have made my own take on both of his characters and emulate his enunciation when voicing them

Seeing him defend new Trek so passionately and attack people who are annoyed at the direction Star Trek is going really really disappoints me. I wish he wouldnt talk so vocally about politics and would have better respect for the fiction he took part in.
Are any of the other actors from the shows/movies like this?
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Takei is pretty horrid, don't know about the rest.

Patrick Stewart's dad beat his mom I think (war vet trauma or something?) so he's spoken out in favor of some feminism stuff in the past, but I don't think he's super political in general, think he mostly care about himself and maybe acting. Still a lot of fans had to realize that Stewart very much isn't Picard after the Picard show.

Lots of others will have expressed progressive politics at some point, it's an la crowd from the 80s-90s but I don't know how many argue with people online about it or care about it above lip service.

Not sure who worked on Star Trek genuinely cared about it, save Roddenberry who certainly loved it.
 
WhatIsThePunchline said:
Takei is pretty horrid, don't know about the rest.

Patrick Stewart's dad beat his mom I think (war vet trauma or something?) so he's spoken out in favor of some feminism stuff in the past, but I don't think he's super political in general, think he mostly care about himself and maybe acting. Still a lot of fans had to realize that Stewart very much isn't Picard after the Picard show.

Lots of others will have expressed progressive politics at some point, it's an la crowd from the 80s-90s but I don't know how many argue with people online about it or care about it above lip service.

Not sure who worked on Star Trek genuinely cared about it, save Roddenberry who certainly loved it.
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These are the hollywood actor upper class sort of people. Makes sense.
Here I was thinking more of em embraced the characters and roles they did like Andrew Robinson. I read his book recently and he knows his character so damn well they feel inseparable
 
Lurkerish Kandor said:
S03E11 Past Tense Part 1 is kinda painful, which I was expecting from an episode about time travelling back to 2024 San Fran. Very cringeworthy preachy bullshit from Bashir and Sisko about injustices, a corrupt system, and so on. Back then this may have been novel and socially conscious, but hearing it nowadays holy shit it just sounds like a very slightly less gay and communist version of modern Trek.
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Dax is the only one who doesn't act like a political sperg in this one.
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
Dax is the only one who doesn't act like a political sperg in this one.
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One_True_Yuri said:
Dax has multiple lifetimes of experience to know not to be political like Ubermensch Bashir or Messiah Sisko
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That's what I really liked about her plotline: she's savvy even in a situation she knows basically nothing about - fitting in, making up good cover stories, and scraping information where she can to keep herself informed. Almost like a little spy thriller.

Part 2 was definitely a lot better. They dropped most of the political sperging and replaced it with bottle-episode type social conflict. I shouldn't have been surprised Sisko ended up being that famous revolutionary - I knew it'd end up being one of the crew, but for some reason I'd assumed it'd be Bashir. I guess because I figured Ben would be a bit too on-the-nose. Need to rewatch and get some screencaps of Sisko with the shotgun looking disgruntled.
 
WhatIsThePunchline said:
Patrick Stewart's dad beat his mom I think (war vet trauma or something?) so he's spoken out in favor of some feminism stuff in the past, but I don't think he's super political in general, think he mostly care about himself and maybe acting. Still a lot of fans had to realize that Stewart very much isn't Picard after the Picard show.
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Stewart was pretty vocally anti-Brexit back when that was topical iirc.

Also, Marina Sirtis is not a fan of the orange one.
 
Do you think if Roddenberry was still alive and aware today that he would be on the current bandwagon with Star Trek or would he be the disgusted and disappointed creator like Lucas is with Star Wars now?
 
One_True_Yuri said:
I read his book recently and he knows his character so damn well they feel inseparable
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That's Wayne Pygram on Farscape. At a certain point you’re not sure if it’s acting or if the guy just showed up to set already like that. The writers said, “Okay so this week you crawl around on your knees while Evil Costco Servalan drags you by a leash,” and he was like, “Great, I’ll also lick her boots.” And everyone on set was like, “Whoa whoa whoa man, relax.” :o
 
One_True_Yuri said:
Do you think if Roddenberry was still alive and aware today that he would be on the current bandwagon with Star Trek or would he be the disgusted and disappointed creator like Lucas is with Star Wars now?
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Lucas absolutely set Star Wars on this trajectory and now everyone capes for him because he talked shit about Disney. Whose idea was it to make Kennedy the successor? Also he literally wrote the Clone Wars as a War on Terror allegory. Palpatine controls both sides in a war even through its geographically impossible.
 
Voyager really fucked up handling entering Borg space. Completely declawed them as a serious threat for everything afterward except the Enterprise episode. Introducing species 8472 so blatantly was a mistake
 
One_True_Yuri said:
Do you think if Roddenberry was still alive and aware today that he would be on the current bandwagon with Star Trek or would he be the disgusted and disappointed creator like Lucas is with Star Wars now?
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Hard to tell, Roddenberry kind of was a Posadist commie, so who knows what kind of wacky shenanigans we would have been served? On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Kurtzman never would have gotten his slimy fingers on the franchise.
 
One_True_Yuri said:
Do you think if Roddenberry was still alive and aware today that he would be on the current bandwagon with Star Trek or would he be the disgusted and disappointed creator like Lucas is with Star Wars now?
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Roddenberry would have been #MeToo'd right off the bat and would be exiled from Hollywood.
 
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