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Sweeter and Savoury said:
And of course long after when question on it she said " it was a memorable and sweet role whose significance I was completely unaware of". I think this was after Shatner convinced her to attend a Star Trek convention in the 90's. I think old Billy had a serious crush on Collins personally.
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I think Shatner's view took a similar trajectory. At first, he considered it beneath him (although he still wanted to be the star), but slowly recognized he'd actually played one of the iconic TV/movie characters of all time.
 
AnOminous said:
I think Shatner's view took a similar trajectory. At first, he considered it beneath him (although he still wanted to be the star), but slowly recognized he'd actually played one of the iconic TV/movie characters of all time.
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Both Nimoy and Shatner hated what Trek did to their careers just after the show was cancelled for the second time. It was only Kelly, whose career was basically over anyway, who embrace the fandom from the start.

In Sawdust to Stardust Kelly (or his ghostwriter as Kelly never wanted his story published), wrote that one time while he was shopping in a grocery store a "stern looking, well dressed gentleman" tapped him on the should and asked if he was indeed Deforest Kelly. Kelly thought he might be a lawyer or something but still admitted he was and was "pleasantly surprised" when all this distinguished looking gentleman wanted was his autograph as he praised his performance as McCoy, saying he was a doctor himself and never missed an episode. Kelly was rather stunned that such a person would even know what Star Trek was let alone be a fan. He ended up signing a few more autographs in the store, for the bag boy and 2 customers before he left. Kelly would later say it was this encounter that proved to him that Star Trek was "far more then some short lived TV show". Going forward Kelly always made the time to talk with any fan he met, unlike Nimoy or Shatner who often offered only vague pleasantries or sometimes even abuse for anyone trying to "Trek it up" with them.

You can't really blame the cast for hating Trekkies in the beginning. Star Trek killed their careers dead, they couldn't go anywhere without "these annoying nutters" showing up and making a fuss and they were typecast so hard it took decades to get acting work outside of Trek. At one point in time Nimoy was forced to find work outside of Hollywood and even there he complained that fans would still show up and cause problems.

It took years, and the very lucrative convention circuit plus the success of the movies, to change their minds. Hell Nimoy even wrote another book as a kind of apology to the fans for the way he acted in the beginning called I am Spock. His first book was named I am NOT Spock and was a diatribe on his woes with the fan base and his typecasting. But I am Spock showed that he now embraced the fandom and understood that what they had all created was something more then just a TV show. Shatner was motivated more by money I think then fame. The convention dues, autograph fees and other such things made him a lot of money quickly and the movies proved to him he was indeed the star he thought he was so he slowly gentled towards the fans over time as well.

Funnily enough the trio was only paid around 5K for the first convention appearance with travel and expenses covered...that didn't last long. I think Shatner asks like 500K per appearance after ST-III was a huge hit.
 
Sweeter and Savoury said:
Both Nimoy and Shatner hated what Trek did to their careers just after the show was cancelled for the second time. It was only Kelly, whose career was basically over anyway, who embrace the fandom from the start.
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Not directly relevant, but it's always funny watching some old TV Western and seeing Nimoy or Kelley or Doohan or Shatner in it.

ETA: autistic spelling correction.
 
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Sweeter and Savoury said:
Funnily enough the trio was only paid around 5K for the first convention appearance with travel and expenses covered...that didn't last long. I think Shatner asks like 500K per appearance after ST-III was a huge hit.
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They finally realized the importance of Star Trek's vision of a world with greed, after receiving a giant pile of money
 
Sweeter and Savoury said:
Nimoy's done some Bonanza episodes, (God I'm old), and it always throws me for a loop when I see Not Spock walk into the bar wearing a six shooter.
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I think Carradine said his portrayal of Kane was somewhat influenced by Spock. Anyway, here he is fighting Shatner.

Calandrino said:
They finally realized the importance of Star Trek's vision of a world with greed, after receiving a giant pile of money
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I think that's somewhere in the Rules of Acquisition.
 
Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
I'm more perplexed at the fact that doing anything to a Ferengi's ear is of a sexual nature to them. And Quark certainly acted like it was and liked it.

So Quark is gay for Leno?
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AnOminous said:
Not directly relevant, but it's always funny watching some old TV Western and seeing Nimoy or Kelley or Doohan or Shatner in it.

ETA: autistic spelling correction.
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I'm gonna get dogpiled for this, but I can't understand why those old westerns were ever popular. It's a procedural, but with 0 hot detectives with ambient thiccness.

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Instead, make way for... Dirty Sally, the junk seller.

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Cactuar King said:
I'm curious, did Starfleet Academy drop Fat Retard (Brown Edition)? I haven't seen her in any clips past 2
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Afro Puffs? No, she's the main character in the Sisko episode.

Next Up: Marketing wanted you to think it was the Borg for a second, then shot their own misdirection right out from under themselves for no reason. (Marketing Retards: you are allowed to fake the audience out in a teaser!)
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Are they the same Furies as in some novels from 1996? Who knows? Who cares! (I bet they're the Scourge from the unproduced show Federation, minus any connection to the Preservers because Discovery did that in season 5) Here's the quick Pennywise-style glimpse of one from the end of the vertical teaser:
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Took a break from DS9 to focus on working on my next video for a bit, now I'm back.

S03E11 Past Tense Part 1 is kinda painful, which I was expecting from an episode about time travelling back to 2024 San Fran. Very cringeworthy preachy bullshit from Bashir and Sisko about injustices, a corrupt system, and so on. Back then this may have been novel and socially conscious, but hearing it nowadays holy shit it just sounds like a very slightly less gay and communist version of modern Trek.

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Jadzia at least has an interesting B-Plot where she's slipped into becoming a socialite in 2024 society and she's just bluffing and bullshitting her way through everything.
I guess I'll watch Part 2, but man I wanna go back to space politics instead of IRL politics.
 
Lurkerish Kandor said:
Took a break from DS9 to focus on working on my next video for a bit, now I'm back.

S03E11 Past Tense Part 1 is kinda painful, which I was expecting from an episode about time travelling back to 2024 San Fran. Very cringeworthy preachy bullshit from Bashir and Sisko about injustices, a corrupt system, and so on. Back then this may have been novel and socially conscious, but hearing it nowadays holy shit it just sounds like a very slightly less gay and communist version of modern Trek.

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Jadzia at least has an interesting B-Plot where she's slipped into becoming a socialite in 2024 society and she's just bluffing and bullshitting her way through everything.
I guess I'll watch Part 2, but man I wanna go back to space politics instead of IRL politics.
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Best part of that whole episode is Dick Miller.
 
Lurkerish Kandor said:
Took a break from DS9 to focus on working on my next video for a bit, now I'm back.

S03E11 Past Tense Part 1 is kinda painful, which I was expecting from an episode about time travelling back to 2024 San Fran. Very cringeworthy preachy bullshit from Bashir and Sisko about injustices, a corrupt system, and so on. Back then this may have been novel and socially conscious, but hearing it nowadays holy shit it just sounds like a very slightly less gay and communist version of modern Trek.

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Jadzia at least has an interesting B-Plot where she's slipped into becoming a socialite in 2024 society and she's just bluffing and bullshitting her way through everything.
I guess I'll watch Part 2, but man I wanna go back to space politics instead of IRL politics.
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I know those episodes were super cereal but the most memorable thing was Jadzia's hideous outfit.
 
Cactuar King said:
No, not the black one, the brown one. The one who eats shiny metal objects.
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It's only natural, but still sad seeing old men try and be the same character. Lately in Trek specifically I think it really only worked for Jonathan Frakes

Lurkerish Kandor said:
Took a break from DS9 to focus on working on my next video for a bit, now I'm back.

S03E11 Past Tense Part 1 is kinda painful, which I was expecting from an episode about time travelling back to 2024 San Fran. Very cringeworthy preachy bullshit from Bashir and Sisko about injustices, a corrupt system, and so on. Back then this may have been novel and socially conscious, but hearing it nowadays holy shit it just sounds like a very slightly less gay and communist version of modern Trek.

Jadzia at least has an interesting B-Plot where she's slipped into becoming a socialite in 2024 society and she's just bluffing and bullshitting her way through everything.
I guess I'll watch Part 2, but man I wanna go back to space politics instead of IRL politics.
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These episodes are completely a remake of Guardian of Forever crossed with Hobo With A Shotgun. Dax is Bones, and instead of Kirk romancing Edith Keeler it's Bones. And instead of a soup kitchen it's a YouTube channel, if YouTube was on cable tv. Too bad there's not really walls up in San Francisco before 2024. Just another sad reminder Trek timeline is not ours.
 
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