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Privilege Power Hour said:
TNG S1's biggest problem is that the worst of it is near the beginning, so you have to run the gauntlet to get to fun (whether because it's a rare good episode or fun in a bad way) stuff later in the season. On the other hand, when S2 is bad its just boring because the goofiness has been toned down a lot.
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S1 had to deal with a writer's strike in the middle of it, so you got episodes that were just retarded. Most Trek shows are goofy until season 3.
 
TNG's "Conspiracy" is still one of the best early TNG-episodes. Picard and Riker blasting their way through Starfleet HQ and blowing up people in a gruesome way is just fucking awesome.
 

Fuck me, man, this scene still creeps me out to this day. It is just how the scene isnt overly dramatized and is handled as an accident, a very messy one, at the work place. It was a mixture of human and mechanical faults that, despite the crew's best attempts at trying to recover the situation, just resulted in something that we never actually see but given how we know this shit scrambles your molecules and that freaking scream, you know it was something out of Cronenberg that had the mercy of not living long.

This is why Bones hates teleporters. ONE thing wrong your only hope is for a quick death
 
The handsome tard said:

Fuck me, man, this scene still creeps me out to this day. It is just how the scene isnt overly dramatized and is handled as an accident, a very messy one, at the work place. It was a mixture of human and mechanical faults that, despite the crew's best attempts at trying to recover the situation, just resulted in something that we never actually see but given how we know this shit scrambles your molecules and that freaking scream, you know it was something out of Cronenberg that had the mercy of not living long.

This is why Bones hates teleporters
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It has some truly ethereal weirdness and horror.

Just saw TOS episode five a few days ago which also had a teleporter accident, must have been the first one. Less horror more drama. Kirk gets split into a Jekyll and Hyde version of himself. The evil Kirk tries to rape a female crew member and skulks around in the ship and the good one tries to keep himself together as he grows increasingly indecisive.

Pretty good, people make fun of Shatner as an actor but he's really good. All of the main trio are great but here he plays three versions of himself, good evil and the original.

Tuvix must have been inspired as an inverted version of this episode.
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
TNG's "Conspiracy" is still one of the best early TNG-episodes. Picard and Riker blasting their way through Starfleet HQ and blowing up people in a gruesome way is just fucking awesome.
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Conspiracy feels like the episode where everyone clicked into place. If I didn't know it was a season 1 episode, I would have thought it was in season 4 or 5.
 
Privilege Power Hour said:
On the other hand, when S2 is bad its just boring because the goofiness has been toned down a lot.
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Still has more good episodes than Season 1. "When Silence Has Lease", "A Matter of Honor", "Measure of a Man", "Pen Pals", and "Q Who" just to name a few.
Curzon Dax-sama said:
TNG's "Conspiracy" is still one of the best early TNG-episodes. Picard and Riker blasting their way through Starfleet HQ and blowing up people in a gruesome way is just fucking awesome.
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Picard: We have moved beyond violent solutions.

Also Picard:
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The handsome tard said:
that freaking scream, you know it was something out of Cronenberg that had the mercy of not living long.
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Wasn't the Vulcan the one who screamed?
The handsome tard said:
This is why Bones hates teleporters. ONE thing wrong your only hope is for a quick death
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Just imagine if reading about this gave Barclay his own transporter fear.
 
The handsome tard said:
This is why Bones hates teleporters. ONE thing wrong your only hope is for a quick death
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RLM pointed out in their TMP re:view that it was really Kirk's fault in a way for it, because he interrupted Decker in the engine room who was working on a transporter issue.

Trek's always been inconsistent on transporters. In Trek 2 they are seen talking during, as if some sort of subspace-only thing that's like a dimensional thing. So did the TNG ep with Barkley, not scrambled as much as going through sort of a worm hole.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
S1 had to deal with a writer's strike in the middle of it, so you got episodes that were just retarded. Most Trek shows are goofy until season 3.
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The writer's strike happened between the first and second seasons. It's why they recycled several Phase II scripts (like the season premier) for the first half of the season.
 
Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
It's a shame they had to kill Hayes at the end it was like "Sorry, MACO are here for one season, you're out!"
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The MACO's were great and I wish they had been more prominent. In universe it seems incredibly short sighted of Star Fleet to disband them, there's were so many situations down the road where a team of trained soldiers who were able to breach and clear would be useful.
Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
It's like they forgot Travis existed.
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Travis is the only character who's storylines get actively worse as the show goes on. I was never a big fan of him in general. I think the actor plays the character as someone far younger than they are, but at least he had some kind of had some storylines at the start. They even managed to make Malcolm slightly interesting in the 11th hour but I guess they just didn't know what to do with Travis.
Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
I think the lamest shit is doing that "ooops it's all nazi" thing right at the end which only ended up being a two parter for the beginning of S4 it just feels like it took some wind out of the sails of finally succeeding at the mission and saving Earth. Plus I just ugh another thing as I grew up is seeing Nazi being comically evil is something I just find cringe at this point so yeah that whole start to season four was less than stellar.
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I liked the little Nazi arc they did, felt very pulp sci-fi and I wish they had leaned into that a little more.
 
Unpopular opinion time. I liked the idea of the Temporal Cold War. It makes sense to me that, in a galaxy where time travel is possible with effort ranging between minimal and accidental, many different factions would pop up seeking to do what they can. People who hate the status quo over here, over there a band of researchers trying to break things in the name of science, and the time cops trying to keep everything recognizable. It works for me. If nothing else it was hilarious watching the Vulcans deny time travel was possible because it was so illogical.

I just wish they had started the arc with an endgame in mind.
 
Meriasek said:
DRIVE BY FARSCAPE POST INCOMING
Came across this, got reminded how fucking awesome Farscape was, gonna rewatch it now.

Also, just to reiterate, ENT was cancelled too soon. It was just finding its pace and it should have gotten the usual seven seasons. T'pol was a blatant eye-candy introduction, but the character was also pretty funny at times and had pretty decent development.
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T'Pol and Phlox were my favourite characters by the end of the show.
Curzon Dax-sama said:
Well, as it wasn't as good as the other series, but it is better than Discovery and all the other Kurtzman-slop. ENT today is a reminder of how good we used to have it.
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Yeah. It grew on me by the end but I don't think I would have enjoyed it as much if I hadn't tried to watch NuTrek in between.

I still hate the opening song. It's a bad, tedious song in and of itself. They could have picked a good song if they wanted to go in a different direction but they instead picked low rent Bryan Adams knockoff garbage. I suppose that set the tone for the entire series, though, because Enterprise at its best still plays like a B-Movie version of the earlier series.
 
Speaking of transporter accidents
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Oops. Those 22nd century transporter could kill your balls. I guess they were rightfully wary about using that thing.
 
Welf Welf said:
Is it weird I enjoy season 1? It's... not good, there's no doubt, but the atmosphere is so different from anything else that's out there. It really doesn't feel like anything else in Star Trek, except maybe The Motion Picture. "Slowly dying Gene Roddenberry weirdness" energy, I guess.
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Back in the old says without the internet telling you how to think and feel about your favorite shows, people weren't really that much annoyed with the "bad" seasons of a show. You just watched it. Some eps. you liked, some you didn't. Magazines hyped them all the same, for obvious reasons. The Naked Now is the most campy of the season, way more than Angel One, because at least Angel One had a plot and a reason to be the way it is. The Naked Now is just "let's make the crew drunk and horny and let's figure out how to get a plot there".

With the Irish one (heh), people forget there is a main plot that also explains why they are this way: there is a philosophic choice made there to return to a more natural and simple way of life. Sure, they could have made them less stereotypical, but there is a reason for them to act they way they do. And also, it's a contrast with the other group that are cloning themselves to survive and their entire existence depends on technology that is now failing them. The simple solution is to integrate both groups together to survive: one needs a home, the other needs a gene pool. IMO, this is a very TOS episode, I guess by the 80s, people were already thinking TOS was too silly and cringe to be fun and clever.
 
Neuropol said:
Unpopular opinion time. I liked the idea of the Temporal Cold War. It makes sense to me that, in a galaxy where time travel is possible with effort ranging between minimal and accidental, many different factions would pop up seeking to do what they can. People who hate the status quo over here, over there a band of researchers trying to break things in the name of science, and the time cops trying to keep everything recognizable. It works for me. If nothing else it was hilarious watching the Vulcans deny time travel was possible because it was so illogical.

I just wish they had started the arc with an endgame in mind.
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In concept I don’t mind the idea, but the execution was really lacking. It also did not feel like the kind of story arc that should be included in the first season of the show, the audience needed to be eased into the world first before you drop warring time traveling groups into things.

Time travel is always such a dicey thing to add to a show, it opens up a whole can of worms.
 
Starfleet Academy has change.org petitions now.

I'm assuming it's the Reddit mob signing the first two. They're the only bunch who seem to like Academy. They've constantly got NPC's glazing it.

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