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I'm totally late, because I just don't care about any of the shitty Paramount+ Star Trek shows, but I can't believe they took away all the mystery surrounding the Breen. That's so unfortunate.
 
I forgot how funny it was at the end of DS9 Dukat gets surgery to look Bajoran and bangs Kai Wynn. What a perfect comeuppance for her.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
The MACO's were great and I wish they had been more prominent. In universe it seems incredibly short sighted of Star Fleet to disband them, there's were so many situations down the road where a team of trained soldiers who were able to breach and clear would be useful.
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Remember how the villain from Beyond was a MACO officer who was pissed he had to become a diplomat?
Dragged Into Sunlight said:
I forgot how funny it was at the end of DS9 Dukat gets surgery to look Bajoran and bangs Kai Wynn. What a perfect comeuppance for her.
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Imagine being a priest and the first person you end up plowing ends up being a Satanist.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
I still contend that she is the scariest villain in all of Star Trek because we've all had to deal with someone like Winn, they're usually in HR and love the power trip.
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She is every HR witch, HOA Karen, and "holier than thou" church lady all rolled into one. Except for those handful of episodes where they tried to give her some depth, which they called off after Rapture.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
I still contend that she is the scariest villain in all of Star Trek because we've all had to deal with someone like Winn, they're usually in HR and love the power trip.
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Welf Welf said:
She is every HR witch, HOA Karen, and "holier than thou" church lady all rolled into one. Except for those handful of episodes where they tried to give her some depth, which they called off after Rapture.
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Louise Fletcher was perfect in that role and she nailed playing such a hateable character. My wife was so happy when Kai Winn died.
 
Hopkinsville Goblin said:
Starfleet Academy has change.org petitions now.

I'm assuming it's the Reddit mob signing the first two. They're the only bunch who seem to like Academy. They've constantly got NPC's glazing it.

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Not beating the "Academy was a $10 million/episode therapy session" allegations.

What narrative do you think they're operating under? Academy was a success but trolls bullied Paramount into canceling it, or Paramount should produce the show at a massive loss on principle?
 
E. Knee as Weapon - Cont. said:
Academy was a success but trolls bullied Paramount into canceling it
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It's always so baffling to me when these idiots try to pedal that narrative. How powerful do they think critics of the show are? It's not like they're going to be pandered to if Star Trek somehow gets another series soon, it'll be the same, performative shit as Starfleet Academy.
 
Dragged Into Sunlight said:
The Dominion might be killing literally hundreds of millions of Alpha Quadrant people and trying to enslave the sector, but don't you dare do a heckin genocide.
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That's why I found Bashir to be the wrong person to advocate for surrender and not just on the prima facie reason either. He personally had to treat the Blight, that genetic disease the Dominion gave those people when they lost. Surrender for the Alpha Quadrant probably would have meant the Founders would have committed their own genocide, so Section 31 was acting proportionally to the threat.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
I still contend that she is the scariest villain in all of Star Trek because we've all had to deal with someone like Winn, they're usually in HR and love the power trip.
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She was the most glorious passive aggressive cunt I've ever seen on TV. Truly a masterclass.

"You're angry. And I forgive you for it."

*sees Kira walking with Bareil*
"I'm glad to see you've found a distraction"

"You're welcome to stay as long as you like, even a week"
 
los pepes said:
She was the most glorious passive aggressive cunt I've ever seen on TV. Truly a masterclass.

"You're angry. And I forgive you for it."

*sees Kira walking with Bareil*
"I'm glad to see you've found a distraction"

"You're welcome to stay as long as you like, even a week"
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Fletcher was just the queen of playing that type of character. Like, Star Trek's always had a ton of excellent character actors really getting to flex their muscles. But DS9 in particular is like a great showcase of actors really getting to play to their strengths. Kai Winn in particular is just so fun to hate. Which is the best kinda villain to me.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
That's why I found Bashir to be the wrong person to advocate for surrender and not just on the prima facie reason either. He personally had to treat the Blight, that genetic disease the Dominion gave those people when they lost. Surrender for the Alpha Quadrant probably would have meant the Founders would have committed their own genocide, so Section 31 was acting proportionally to the threat.
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And then he goes and uses illegal Romulan mind probes to get the info about the vaccine showing he damn well knows that sometimes the end justify the means and you have to do unethical things in survival situations.
 
DS9 has the best villains of the franchise

Kai Winn
Dukat
Weyoun and the founders (Jeffrey Combs is great at playing these slimy worm characters)

As @Mussolini’s Merkin said, Kai Winn is easily hateable because we most likely met someone like her in real life before, I sure as fuck did. Absolute cunt.
Which is funny, because Louise Fletcher apparently was a really nice person from what I've heard.

Also they should've never revealed what the Breen actually look like and when they did, it was seriously fucking lame and I'm just going to ignore it like the rest of post 2005 Star Trek.
 
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Van Darkholme said:
DS9 has the best villains of the franchise

Kai Winn
Dukat
Weyoun and the founders (Jeffrey Combs is great at playing these slimy worm characters)
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It also has the best episodes in which the heroes have to do evil shit OR are accused of having done evil shit. "The Darkness and the Light" is underrated. You have that scarred Cardassian guy that starts killing Kira's former resistance buddies and then captures her. And Kira is absolutely unapologetic "it was war you dumb fuck and you were the enemy, so i killed your boss, his family, melted away half your face, and enjoyed every bit of it".

We will never get a Trek-series again in which the good guy/girl is just "fuck you, I'll do it again" and the evil guy/girl might have a point.
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
It also has the best episodes in which the heroes have to do evil shit OR are accused of having done evil shit. "The Darkness and the Light" is underrated. You have that scarred Cardassian guy that starts killing Kira's former resistance buddies and then captures her. And Kira is absolutely unapologetic "it was war you dumb fuck and you were the enemy, so i killed your boss, his family, melted away half your face, and enjoyed every bit of it".

We will never get a Trek-series again in which the good guy/girl is just "fuck you, I'll do it again" and the evil guy/girl might have a point.
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yeah not even in a "lol hitler did nothing wrong amirite" but Dukat really does seem to have a point about a lot of it, the Bajorans do seem to be every bit the dogmatic retard culture that only stops killing each other when they've got a common foe
teriyakiburns said:
I guess ECS ram was still expensive in the 22nd century.
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the real The Burn
 
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