Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Classic Mission: Impossible that is not about Tom Cruise?
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The big problem is that they have made the tech so near like magic now, it would be way beyond the capabilities of any writers to do it properly.

Ironic because they could do the show well if they say... tried tackling things honestly - but then it would break other star trek lore. (like the universal translator not being an auto-code breaker; or space being so vast, you can literally hide facilities in the void between systems)
 
Whiskey said:
I think the cloak ban was more to ensure exploration remained dangerous and exciting for the plot in the future. If you have powerful cloaking 90% of plots where the goal is exploration are automatically solved. Every episode would rely on a mcguffin to disable or bypass the cloak.
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Exactly. In the context of a show going 'their sensors are spotting our cloak' every single episode is going to get trite quickly.

Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I think DS9 handled it well with the Defiant where it caused subspace whatevers when cloaked, meaning it couldn't stay in one place for too long without being spotted.
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Also the show was based on the station, they didn't use the defiant every episode

Though the transporters also would solve every problem and therefore gets jammed by a light breeze so I suppose it could work to have them have cloaks.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
Not just Dax, but the superior tomboy QT3.14 version of Dax.
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Occasionally you get lucky and an odd couple produces something interesting. Like those space himbos with horny Jewish princess Claudia Black.

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But with Jadzia and Julian, she has to sit down in every scene with him so he doesn't look like a Make-a-Wish kid
 
Captain Syrup said:
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Occasionally you get lucky and an odd couple produces something interesting. Like those space himbos with horny Jewish princess Claudia Black.

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But with Jadzia and Julian, she has to sit down in every scene with him so he doesn't look like a Make-a-Wish kid
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Julian is boyish; he even calls himself so a few times. He's brilliant but inexperienced. He's naive. His received pronunciation makes him seem poshly wimpy. He's also incredibly lanky, which shows in his space calvinball athletic outfit. And he is juxtaposed against Jadzia Dax, a mature officer and woman, made even more mature due to her symbiont. He isn't able to take the lead. He doesn't make her look small like Ben Browder or that guy on the right did to Claudia Black. He's like when Picard was made a teenager. Whiny, received pronunciation, boyish, to be handled like a woman or child, not contended with as a male peer. He's like if that young Picard tried to comfort Troi. He's too small to be larger than her in the embrace and it looks ridiculous. He's too weak to defend her from anything except by throwing himself on the danger while she flees.
 
Captain Syrup said:
But with Jadzia and Julian, she has to sit down in every scene with him so he doesn't look like a Make-a-Wish kid
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As cringey as it was, I did like that Jadzia routinely treated Bashir like the child that he was. Eventually, Bashir realized he was being a douche and settled down.

The real crime was Berman killing off Jadzia, which forced Worf to deal with his grief and Ezri to find her identity all inside of a single season. Jadzia liked Worf because he was a walking contradiction: a proud Klingon warrior, but he's Starfleet. A man who puts up a big tough front but, deep down, he's a sensitive softie. Jadzia always liked a challenge - she busted her ass and endured Curzon's wrath - and Worf was that challenge. Ezri, on the other hand, found Worf's act tiresome, as most women in Trek did. Bashir matured a lot throughout the series and thank God that Alex Siddig pushed back on the writers trying to turn him into Data. He stopped his obsessive pursuit of women (especially after Sarina) and turned into a man who still had that bright-eyed optimism deep down, but was more even-keeled, and gave Ezri a more manageable challenge (Bashir's annihilation fantasies that he lived out in holosuites rather than in Dominiom death camps).

I dunno, DS9 was more character-driven and I like that.
 
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m1ddl3m4rch said:
Julian is boyish; he even calls himself so a few times. He's brilliant but inexperienced. He's naive. His received pronunciation makes him seem poshly wimpy. He's also incredibly lanky, which shows in his space calvinball athletic outfit. And he is juxtaposed against Jadzia Dax, a mature officer and woman, made even more mature due to her symbiont. He isn't able to take the lead. He doesn't make her look small like Ben Browder or that guy on the right did to Claudia Black. He's like when Picard was made a teenager. Whiny, received pronunciation, boyish, to be handled like a woman or child, not contended with as a male peer. He's like if that young Picard tried to comfort Troi. He's too small to be larger than her in the embrace and it looks ridiculous. He's too weak to defend her from anything except by throwing himself on the danger while she flees.
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>Terry, height 182 cm
>Alexander, height: 182 cm
Imagine being taller than most of your male colleagues. It's hilarious, actually, because portraying Jadzia as a weak damsel in distress was always going to fail.
 
Finished season 2 of the The Orville last night, it has been a rather lovely surprise overall, far better than I anticipated and the first season let on.

Hey Johnny Bravo said:
The real crime was Berman killing off Jadzia, which forced Worf to deal with his grief and Ezri to find her identity all inside of a single season.
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For what it's worth I think Nicole De Boer did fantastic as Ezri especially with the short time given to her.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
Finished season 2 of the The Orville last night, it has been a rather lovely surprise overall, far better than I anticipated and the first season let on.


For what it's worth I think Nicole De Boer did fantastic as Ezri especially with the short time given to her.
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That's when they finally figured out how to write Dax or at least give Dax interesting stories to her. In general, she should have been more like Curzon where's she's this cantankerous hard drinking tomboy that absolutely gives lip to her superiors because she, in fact, does know better.

 
Viral tweet from VOY RLM video says that the views of ST:Academy was about 400K, meaning they had around 40K per episode (according to Mike's sources). Some people are on denial...
 
Tasty Tatty said:
Viral tweet from VOY RLM video says that the views of ST:Academy was about 400K, meaning they had around 40K per episode (according to Mike's sources). Some people are on denial...
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Trannies on suicide watch, what else is new? I'm convinced many more than 40k people watched SFA, since piracy is a thing. Most of the audience simply refused to fork over money for this shit.
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
That's when they finally figured out how to write Dax or at least give Dax interesting stories to her. In general, she should have been more like Curzon where's she's this cantankerous hard drinking tomboy that absolutely gives lip to her superiors because she, in fact, does know better.
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They should have written Jadzia from the start to be like that. It would have been a lot of fun with her going "listen here you little chucklefucks" every single time the Bajorans go full retard and cause a scene that'd require direct Federation intervention.
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
Trannies on suicide watch, what else is new? I'm convinced many more than 40k people watched SFA, since piracy is a thing. Most of the audience simply refused to fork over money for this shit.
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That's the top five most downloaded episodes on a very large private torrent site. If the 40k/episode stat is correct that means a majority of people pirated it. It's how I watched it.
 
Mussolini’s Merkin said:
For what it's worth I think Nicole De Boer did fantastic as Ezri especially with the short time given to her.
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I'm still skeptical about making her counselor because she's as useful as a magic 8-ball.

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Vic Fontaine is out here fixing PTSD while she’s collapsing in a puddle of tears all the time.

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And they were definitely haunted by Troi.

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The episode where she visits her family is fun. Imagine inheriting 300 years of memories and disappointing every ancestor simultaneously. :story:

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Wait, is New Sydney like space New Jersey? I like how the Tigans left their enlightened Federation society to go work for the mob.
 
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The RLM story is kind of worse than you'd think. There are third-string Youtubers who pull in more than 40,000 views with their videos.

And this is Star Trek for fuck's sake. Trek used to have a fanbase that was the definition of hardcore. I guess 'used to' is the appropriate term there. They may still be out there, but they're sure as fuck not watching Kurtzmann-Trek.
 
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