Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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melty said:
How do I not remember this episode? This sounds amazingly bad holy shit.
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Yeah, the synopsis alone is a wild ride.
Tom has to follow the laws of the Ledosians and take driving lessons, meanwhile Janeway allows herself to decide what's best for that planet, the Ledosians and the Ventu, ignores the laws of the Ledosians and has her crewman risk his life to fulfill her wish...

It's stuff like this that makes me think Janeway was never about following rules, she just forced her own people to follow stupid rules to fuck with them and to amuse herself when they have to do the song and dance of some idiot alien species while she just slams her hand down, the moment those uppity savaged demand respect for their rules from her.
 
Van Darkholme said:
O'Brien got replaced with a future version of himself and they cared for the rest of the episode.

Man, I love DS9.
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He's also had 20 years of prison sentence and isolation fuck with him but he recovered by the next episode.
O'Brien's a trooper!
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
It's stuff like this that makes me think Janeway was never about following rules, she just forced her own people to follow stupid rules to fuck with them and to amuse herself when they have to do the song and dance of some idiot alien species while she just slams her hand down, the moment those uppity savaged demand respect for their rules from her.
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Random Thoughts really showed that. Let's just send the highly volatile half-klingon to a planet that punishes you for your thoughts.
 
draggs said:
For being such respectful, peace-loving, non-threatening angels, kinda weird that the Federation had a demilitarized zone with the Cardassians, and a neutral zone with both the Klingons and the Romulans. That poor Federation, just keeps getting picked on by everyone definitely not their fault.
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Kicked out of solar systems in all four quadrants but it's NEVER their fault?

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RomanesEuntDomus said:
Yeah, the synopsis alone is a wild ride.
Tom has to follow the laws of the Ledosians and take driving lessons, meanwhile Janeway allows herself to decide what's best for that planet, the Ledosians and the Ventu, ignores the laws of the Ledosians and has her crewman risk his life to fulfill her wish...

It's stuff like this that makes me think Janeway was never about following rules, she just forced her own people to follow stupid rules to fuck with them and to amuse herself when they have to do the song and dance of some idiot alien species while she just slams her hand down, the moment those uppity savaged demand respect for their rules from her.
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It's probably just bad writing but they should've gone with Janeway being a magnificent bitch who enjoys fucking with crew members and aliens of the week because she can and she's bored. That's a lot more interesting and fun than Picard giving lectures on morality.

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A thing I just remembered, once upon a time knowing Klingon was THE ultimate geek signature. Does it still appear in pop culture, or is the idea of actually learning something new form a series you like considered too ableist compared to buying billion funko pops?
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
A thing I just remembered, once upon a time knowing Klingon was THE ultimate geek signature. Does it still appear in pop culture, or is the idea of actually learning something new form a series you like considered too ableist compared to buying billion funko pops?
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I think Big Bang Theory killed off unironic fandom in things like Elvish and Klingon.

Wish they had kept referring to it as Klingonese
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I've never seen Big Bang Theory. Was it really that bad? (I stopped watching network television around the time I graduated high school, so early 2000s)
 
White Devil said:
I've never seen Big Bang Theory. Was it really that bad? (I stopped watching network television around the time I graduated high school, so early 2000s)
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idk about the show, but it gave normies a shorthand way of dismissing nerds that have passionate interests. bazinga!
 
ditto said:
idk about the show, but it gave normies a shorthand way of dismissing nerds that have passionate interests. bazinga!
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It also reduced nerd-dom to its most basic bitch stereotypical aspects. Fucking Steve Urkel was a more respectful portrayal of nerds.
 
to compare it to Amos And Andy was unfair
to Amos And Andy
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
A thing I just remembered, once upon a time knowing Klingon was THE ultimate geek signature. Does it still appear in pop culture, or is the idea of actually learning something new form a series you like considered too ableist compared to buying billion funko pops?
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I think there is someone here who speaks both Klingon and Vulcan. She even has her own thread.
 
White Devil said:
I've never seen Big Bang Theory. Was it really that bad? (I stopped watching network television around the time I graduated high school, so early 2000s)
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It's aggressively mediocre. Definitely falls short of really nerdy sitcoms like 3rd Rock from the Sun or the IT Crowd.
 
XYZpdq said:
to compare it to Amos And Andy was unfair
to Amos And Andy
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Amos and Andy did a heck of a lot of humor that didn't rely on the fact the main characters were all black. Yeah, in 30 years or so, a lot of cringe was involved, but most of the scripts could very easily be adapted to an all-white cast. The biggest difference between Amos & Andy and something like Honeymooners was most of the wacky schemes came from a shady con man instead of an honest guy who gets in over his head.

TLDR, agreed.
 
White Devil said:
I've never seen Big Bang Theory. Was it really that bad? (I stopped watching network television around the time I graduated high school, so early 2000s)
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if you ever get curious (or bored) enough watch the first/second season and stop. after that it became more and more a relationship sitcom with nerd flavor.
 
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