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Typical of the era I guess, but it sounds like a typical Roddenberry sex fantasy.
Dollar store Russ Meyer. (Except Gene paid his employees less.)
Crusher was obviously intended to be a fetish character; as the character was developed they retained the mommy aspect and the medical examination scenes, but I don't think they ever depicted her crushing insects or puppies with high heels.
And now the light is shed. I always thought Crusher was an odd name.

He probably said "get me a girl with nice gams", and they found some Based Mom from Ohio who could dance.

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Rick can talk all he wants about how "Gene was my Curzon Dax, my symbiont." He's just a suit who was brought in to make things cleaner.

Which is not to say that Gene's vision was better. They had two competing visions, and Rick won out.
 
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Did Janeway actually commit genocide on the actual show?
She did, but the Borg got the ball rolling by invading Fluidic Space and provoking Species 8472, who are hostile to all life.

She also brokered alliances with the Kazon, Vaadwaur, and other war criminals.

If you watched SFDebris back in the day, he retconned the series so that Janeway is the overarching villain of the franchise: she programs Lore, orchestrates Nemesis, and engineers the spider-lady from Farscape. Mulgrew played Claudia Black's mother in Dragon Age, hence the crossover.

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If you watched SFDebris back in the day, he retconned the series so that Janeway is the overarching villain of the franchise: she programs Lore, orchestrates Nemesis, and engineers the spider-lady from Farscape. (Mulgrew played Claudia Black's mom in Dragon Age, hence the crossover.)
I remember the day it all paid off in the farscape joke. Fun times.

If you don't even want to bother with his videos, just a search on youtube for "sfdebris janeway" will bring up a lot of clipped videos and even a compilation playlist.
 
What if Lucas directed Star Trek and Roddenberry directed Star Wars?
I seem to recall reading that before creating his own mythos of Star Wars, George Lucas tried in vain to get the movie rights to several old sci-fi properties like Flash Gordon and including Star Trek. Everybody turned him down.

And then after Star Wars, all these IP holders were begging in vain to get George Lucas to direct movies of their stuff. Including Roddenberry... he asked Lucas and all the other hot directors of the time to direct The Motion Picture.
 
I seem to recall reading that before creating his own mythos of Star Wars, George Lucas tried in vain to get the movie rights to several old sci-fi properties like Flash Gordon and including Star Trek. Everybody turned him down.

And then after Star Wars, all these IP holders were begging in vain to get George Lucas to direct movies of their stuff. Including Roddenberry... he asked Lucas and all the other hot directors of the time to direct The Motion Picture.
Flash Gordon? Yes.

never heard of the trek thing and will need to see receipts on that one
 
I don't know that meme. I am shamefully unacquainted with 8chan culture. I was referring to the "naval tradition" meme that's been around since the 60s. It is widely attributed to Churchill, but the oldest witness I could find was published in Punch.
I'm familiar with the jibe; I just thought that you were invoking it in an oblique reference to /strek's recurring Gowron meme.

It seemed appropriate for Klingon culture. Replace rum with blood wine, the lash with pain sticks, and leave sodomy as it is, I suppose. (We don't know that Klingons sodomize each other, but if you consider Discovery canon, they have two penises so it's reasonable to assume a Klingon male would penetrate both vagina and anus simultaneously.)
That doesn't make any sense, unless Klingon females have two vaginas and two uteruses, or STD Klingon males actually have reptile-style hemipenes. 🤔

And she's named after an uncastrated male horse. The messaging is a little mixed, but I assume careful viewers would have noticed the association with the sexual drive.
On the other hand, the adjective "coltish," meaning to be cheerful, youthfully energetic, mischievous, etc, was still in somewhat common parlance at the time, and seems to fit the physicality of the actress eventually cast as Colt, Laurel Goodwin, somewhat better than the "strip-queen" idea. Goodwin certainly had a nice figure, but she was definitely more "cute" than "sexy."

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It's much clearer in Rand, derived from "randy," which has meant lewd or lustful since the 19th century. (Or it might be a reference to the RAND Corporation, which is more likely but not as funny.) Roddenberry broke with this pattern when he created Christine Chapel, whose very name suggests the sanctity of marriage. I like to think this was a wry criticism of the network's absurd rejection of the Number One character, but he was fucking her so he probably just felt possessive.
Well, don't forget Nichelle Nichols' Uhura (derived from the Swahili word for freedom, "uhuru"), who was probably the sexiest recurring female character on the show, even before she got to show off her very toned midriff and languidly threaten people with knives in the Mirror Universe episode (plus, Roddenberry was apparently fucking her on the side at the time):

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The pattern of sexual names resumed with Deanna Troi, named after the virgin goddess Diana and Helen of Troy....
Maybe "Troi" was supposed to be a call-back to France Nuyen's Elaan of Troyius?

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...she's not as slutty as Colt or Rand[y], but perhaps more desirable. Crusher was obviously intended to be a fetish character; as the character was developed they retained the mommy aspect and the medical examination scenes, but I don't think they ever depicted her crushing insects or puppies with high heels.
Thanks, I didn't need to be reminded that some people get off to that...😐

I don't know if Roddenberry was doing anything clever with Natasha Yar, but she got raped a lot and had drunk sex with a robot, so there was really no need for innuendo.
Yar and Troi were originally supposed to be played by Marina Sirtis and Denise Crosby, respectively. According to Crosby, “Troi was this cool, Icelandic blonde. Almost Spock-like.” However, "somewhere, about the second or third audition, Gene Roddenberry had this idea: Let’s just switch them and see what happens."

Dunno if that sheds light on the whole issue or further obscures it, though.

Rick can talk all he wants about Gene's legacy; keeping a bust of Gene in his office, "Gene was my Curzon Dax, my symbiont"... It's obvious that he's a talentless suit who was brought in to keep things cleaner.
And the franchise was the better for it, for the most part.
 
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So, I’ve been going through TNG weekly with a group of friends, one episode per week. We just finished season 1, and so for the hell of it, here are my thoughts.

Before we began, I’d heard plenty of horror stories about how bad season 1 is, generally citing the most cringe-inducing examples (The Naked Now and Code of Honor, especially). After watching it...I feel like it’s a little bit exaggerated. I’ve seen some later episodes so I know that, on average, season 1 isn’t going to hold a candle to the later seasons, but it was still an enjoyable watch all the way through. The really goofy stuff could be laughed at pretty easily, as opposed to the garbage that is nu-Trek that just makes me want to claw my eyes out.

Mostly, it just feels a bit off. It’s got that early season weird feeling around it, where you’re thinking that a character isn’t acting how you expect, or the sets don’t quite look right. Even I could tell with my limited exposure to TNG. Despite this, it still feels like Star Trek, which again, nu-Trek just doesn’t at all. I’ll take any season 1 episode over the abominations that Kurtzman is shitting out these days.

And now, episode by episode, quick thoughts:
  • Encounter at Farpoint: Decent opening to the series proper, although it dragged a bit. Fairly simple plot, mostly just there to set up all the characters. I like Q’s funny hat.
  • The Naked Now: Laughably bad episode, easy to wonder how anyone stuck with the series after this. First instance of Wesley being totally obnoxious. FULLY FUNCTIONAL ANDROID.
  • Code of Honor: Also laughably bad. We wuz space kangz. Tasha’s fight at the end is pretty funny to watch.
  • The Last Outpost: Meh episode. Good example of season 1 weirdness in how the Ferengi don’t really act like they do later on. Not much stuck out to me about this one aside from that.
  • Where No One Has Gone Before: The first episode that I’d actually consider pretty good overall. Traveling to the edge of the universe makes for a good premise. Wesley being the key to fixing everything again is still dumb, but aside from that, a decent watch.
  • Lonely Among Us: I forgot what this episode was until I looked it up, so I guess that says it all. Humorous to think about Picard beaming into space and out of the series.
  • Justice: Classic horndog Gene episode with all those skimpy outfits. Decent overall, nice little Picard speech towards the end. I’m sure I wasn’t the only one rooting for Wesley to get executed.
  • The Battle: Another weird Ferengi episode. You can tell that they wanted them to be a Klingon/Romulan replacement, but they just weren’t quite working in that role.
  • Hide and Q: I enjoyed this one, even if it teased me with getting rid of Wesley twice in one episode. Pretty standard Trek fare, but Q’s still fun even if he isn’t quite how he is in later appearances. Also fun costumes on Q.
  • Haven: A little silly but alright overall. Not much to say except oh no Lwaxana
  • The Big Goodbye: So yeah, maybe the holodeck isn’t quite all it’s cracked up to be if a glitch can trap you inside and make it possible for the projections to kill you. Decent episode, worth it for Picard’s alien greeting at the end.
  • Datalore: Important for setting up future episodes, goofy but still entertaining. Brent Spiner was really chewing the scenery as Lore, probably because he was actually able to act differently.
  • Angel One: Definitely on the bad end of the scale, but entertaining in various ways, especially Riker’s outfit. Apparently it was commentary on apartheid (with the men being oppressed like black people), but if so, I didn’t see it.
  • 11001001: Pretty good episode, though Minuet is kind of silly (and Riker continues to be horny). The Bynars are neat, and the plot is good overall.
  • Too Short a Season: Pretty meh episode, not much to say about it except for the aging (de-aging?) makeup. Not their best work by a longshot.
  • When the Bough Breaks: Yet another episode that teases me with getting rid of Wesley. Pretty standard Trek plot, but this time with child abduction!
  • Home Soil: Another interesting episode, I like the exploration of finding a lifeform so alien that you don’t even recognize it’s alive. One of the high points of season 1.
  • Coming of Age: I liked this one too. I think this marked a bit of a turning point of toning down Wesley’s Gary Stu-ness (he probably would’ve passed if Gene had total say). Served as a bit of a recap episode as well as setting up Conspiracy, but not in a way where you had to see those episodes to follow the plot.
  • Heart of Glory: Worf finally gets an episode! I like how the episode deals with the Klingons post-treaty, and how some of this warlike race are unable to accept a peaceful coexistence. Also you get a lot of Klingon death screams, so that’s nice.
  • The Arsenal of Freedom: Pretty good episode overall, where pretty much everyone gets something to do (except Troi but when does she ever). I like that it has both external and internal conflict, between deducing the source of the weapon probes and Geordi’s command being questioned.
  • Symbiosis: Has some goofy moments like the anti-drug PSA but alright overall; I don’t agree with the solution but I understand how Picard got to it (and how the Prime Directive handcuffed him in that way). Funny that it’s something of a Wrath of Khan reunion. Also I can’t watch it without thinking about the opening to Star Trek: Acid Party.
  • Skin of Evil: RIP, Tasha, it’s a shame you weren’t developed as much as you could’ve been. Not much else to say about this episode, though I feel bad for the actor who played Armus; it must not have been fun to act underneath all that black goo.
  • We’ll Always Have Paris: Some alternate dimension technobabble shenanigans, but an entertaining watch overall. A bit of character development for Picard.
  • Conspiracy: Doesn’t really fit all that well with TNG as a whole, but who cares, HEAD EXPLOSION. Funny how the bugs were set up to be some major threat later on, but they were simply never referenced again.
  • The Neutral Zone: Kind of a weird season finale, but okay overall. A little heavy-handed with the whole “we’re so much more evolved than those primitive 20th-century types” schtick, but damn if the musician guy wasn’t great. Also first appearance of the Romulan Warbird, so that’s cool. Another harbinger of things to come with the hints at the Borg.
Overall, season 1 improves as it goes along. The first half is a bit of a slog, but the quality goes up once you get to Home Soil, with the second half having more hits than misses, in my opinion. Even the episodes generally considered bad have entertainment value, and I never felt like I was wasting my time with a season 1 episode. While it might not be the best introduction to newcomers if you want them to really get into TNG due to the varying quality and first-season weirdness, it’s certainly well worth a watch, especially since it sets up elements that come up again later, like Lore and the Borg.
 
And now the light is shed. I always thought Crusher was an odd name.

I suspect Wesley Crusher actually came first, or simultaneously, with his mother. I mean his name came first. It's been speculated the character is an idealized self-insert. "Wesley" was Roddenberry's middle name, and "Crusher" is much tougher-sounding than "Roddenberry," very manly and strong. Even if rod-n-berries is quite masculine, in its own way; nomen est omen. So Gene creates the perfect child version of himself, then creates the widowed mother to explain why the kid is on the Enterprise.

That doesn't make any sense, unless Klingon females have two vaginas and two uteruses, or STD Klingon males actually have reptile-style hemipenes. 🤔

It's Discovery, it's not supposed to make sense. But there is a line in TNG establishing that Klingons have redundant internal organs, so a second uterus is not impossible.

Well, don't forget Nichelle Nichols' Uhura (derived from the Swahili word for freedom, "uhuru"), who was probably the sexiest recurring female character on the show, even before she got to show off her very toned midriff and languidly threaten people with knives in the Mirror Universe episode (plus, Roddenberry was apparently fucking her on the side at the time):

I gave Roddenberry the benefit of the doubt that "freedom" was a reference to racial equality and not sexual licentiousness, but yeah, the two of them were boinking.

Maybe "Troi" was supposed to be a call-back to France Nuyen's Elaan of Troyius?

She's Ilia 2.0, and Ilium is another name for Troy, so it was all connected somewhere in his brain.
 
When Best of Both Worlds part 1 was broadcast, my fan theory/hope was that the Bynars would return and hack the Borg into submission with their cybernetic abilities.

I'm still sad that never happened in an episode.
 
And now, episode by episode, quick thoughts:
  • Encounter at Farpoint: Decent opening to the series proper, although it dragged a bit. Fairly simple plot, mostly just there to set up all the characters. I like Q’s funny hat.
  • The Naked Now: Laughably bad episode, easy to wonder how anyone stuck with the series after this. First instance of Wesley being totally obnoxious. FULLY FUNCTIONAL ANDROID.
  • Code of Honor: Also laughably bad. We wuz space kangz. Tasha’s fight at the end is pretty funny to watch.
  • The Last Outpost: Meh episode. Good example of season 1 weirdness in how the Ferengi don’t really act like they do later on. Not much stuck out to me about this one aside from that.
  • Where No One Has Gone Before: The first episode that I’d actually consider pretty good overall. Traveling to the edge of the universe makes for a good premise. Wesley being the key to fixing everything again is still dumb, but aside from that, a decent watch.
  • Lonely Among Us: I forgot what this episode was until I looked it up, so I guess that says it all. Humorous to think about Picard beaming into space and out of the series.
  • Justice: Classic horndog Gene episode with all those skimpy outfits. Decent overall, nice little Picard speech towards the end. I’m sure I wasn’t the only one rooting for Wesley to get executed.
  • The Battle: Another weird Ferengi episode. You can tell that they wanted them to be a Klingon/Romulan replacement, but they just weren’t quite working in that role.
  • Hide and Q: I enjoyed this one, even if it teased me with getting rid of Wesley twice in one episode. Pretty standard Trek fare, but Q’s still fun even if he isn’t quite how he is in later appearances. Also fun costumes on Q.
  • Haven: A little silly but alright overall. Not much to say except oh no Lwaxana
  • The Big Goodbye: So yeah, maybe the holodeck isn’t quite all it’s cracked up to be if a glitch can trap you inside and make it possible for the projections to kill you. Decent episode, worth it for Picard’s alien greeting at the end.
  • Datalore: Important for setting up future episodes, goofy but still entertaining. Brent Spiner was really chewing the scenery as Lore, probably because he was actually able to act differently.
  • Angel One: Definitely on the bad end of the scale, but entertaining in various ways, especially Riker’s outfit. Apparently it was commentary on apartheid (with the men being oppressed like black people), but if so, I didn’t see it.
  • 11001001: Pretty good episode, though Minuet is kind of silly (and Riker continues to be horny). The Bynars are neat, and the plot is good overall.
  • Too Short a Season: Pretty meh episode, not much to say about it except for the aging (de-aging?) makeup. Not their best work by a longshot.
  • When the Bough Breaks: Yet another episode that teases me with getting rid of Wesley. Pretty standard Trek plot, but this time with child abduction!
  • Home Soil: Another interesting episode, I like the exploration of finding a lifeform so alien that you don’t even recognize it’s alive. One of the high points of season 1.
  • Coming of Age: I liked this one too. I think this marked a bit of a turning point of toning down Wesley’s Gary Stu-ness (he probably would’ve passed if Gene had total say). Served as a bit of a recap episode as well as setting up Conspiracy, but not in a way where you had to see those episodes to follow the plot.
  • Heart of Glory: Worf finally gets an episode! I like how the episode deals with the Klingons post-treaty, and how some of this warlike race are unable to accept a peaceful coexistence. Also you get a lot of Klingon death screams, so that’s nice.
  • The Arsenal of Freedom: Pretty good episode overall, where pretty much everyone gets something to do (except Troi but when does she ever). I like that it has both external and internal conflict, between deducing the source of the weapon probes and Geordi’s command being questioned.
  • Symbiosis: Has some goofy moments like the anti-drug PSA but alright overall; I don’t agree with the solution but I understand how Picard got to it (and how the Prime Directive handcuffed him in that way). Funny that it’s something of a Wrath of Khan reunion. Also I can’t watch it without thinking about the opening to Star Trek: Acid Party.
  • Skin of Evil: RIP, Tasha, it’s a shame you weren’t developed as much as you could’ve been. Not much else to say about this episode, though I feel bad for the actor who played Armus; it must not have been fun to act underneath all that black goo.
  • We’ll Always Have Paris: Some alternate dimension technobabble shenanigans, but an entertaining watch overall. A bit of character development for Picard.
  • Conspiracy: Doesn’t really fit all that well with TNG as a whole, but who cares, HEAD EXPLOSION. Funny how the bugs were set up to be some major threat later on, but they were simply never referenced again.
  • The Neutral Zone: Kind of a weird season finale, but okay overall. A little heavy-handed with the whole “we’re so much more evolved than those primitive 20th-century types” schtick, but damn if the musician guy wasn’t great. Also first appearance of the Romulan Warbird, so that’s cool. Another harbinger of things to come with the hints at the Borg.
Angel One does have a based moment when you think about it. The lady won't fuck the soyboi because he's not tall enough, but she insists that Riker be dressed up like a soyboi so that she can fuck him. I'd still rather watch that TAS episode where Uhura and the other ladies had to take charge. That episode was more effective at what it was trying to accomplish than Angel One.

If it weren't for TAS's jank, it'd probably be considered better than TNG season 1.
 
Goodwin certainly had a nice figure, but she was definitely more "cute" than "sexy."
All this talk of TOS is making me nostalgic. Remember Lenore from "Conscience of a King"? I don't mind that she's a spree killer. All I see is a footjob with psych ward grippy-socks.

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Fun fact: Lenore (Karidian's daughter) is supposed to be 19 years old. She's Bill Shatner's love interest for this episode.

Different America.

(also Flash G inspired Spaceman Spiff)
"I'm impervious to pain!"
"Let's see how you withstand a calm discussion of wholesome principles!"
 
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You know how in "Where No One Has Gone Before", they make a brief stop in Triangulum before going to the magic blue place (where thought gets real)?

I tried to recreate that scene in Triangulum using SpaceEngine (0.98). This could be how it would look IRL.

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(spiral in background is Andromeda)
 
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After watching it...I feel like it’s a little bit exaggerated. I’ve seen some later episodes so I know that, on average, season 1 isn’t going to hold a candle to the later seasons, but it was still an enjoyable watch all the way through.
I remember when i was doing a rewatch and am like "boy there's a lot of cringe, but is it THAT bad?"

Then I did a binge from end of S2 straight through S3 and am like, "Oh yeah, it's not that it's bad, it's that later the show is SOOOOO much better." It's like going from 0 to 200 in three seconds.

Then after you see that insane jump in quality you want to think to yourself, "Wow, just imagine how much more we could have had if the earlier seasons were this good."
 
You know how in "Where No One Has Gone Before", they make a brief stop in Triangulum before going to the magic blue place (where thought gets real)?

I tried to recreate that scene in Triangulum using SpaceEngine (0.98). This could be how it would look IRL.

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(spiral in background is Andromeda)
So this is looking at the galaxy edge on right? What's that pink cube looking reflection thing? That is pretty cool.
 
All this talk of TOS is making me nostalgic. Remember Lenore from "Conscience of a King"? I don't mind that she's a spree killer All I see is a footjob with psych ward grippy-socks.

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Fun fact: Lenore (Karidian's daughter) is supposed to be 19 years old. She's Bill Shatner's love interest for this episode.

Different America.
That looks like a collage of three different actresses. 🤔

"I'm impervious to pain!"
"Let's see how you withstand a calm discussion of wholesome principles!"
Bill Watterson is the greatest cartoonist of the 20th century.

In other news, I didn't realize that Marina Sirtis wore black contact lenses as Troi until I read that she wore black contact lenses as Troi. Freaky, eh?

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Actually, I kind of think that the top pic is sorta sexy, in a weird way. Kind of makes me think of "Cow-Eyed Hera" (who was supposed to be the most beautiful of all the Olympian goddesses) since we've started invoking the Iliad in the context of Trek women...
 
I remember when i was doing a rewatch and am like "boy there's a lot of cringe, but is it THAT bad?"

Then I did a binge from end of S2 straight through S3 and am like, "Oh yeah, it's not that it's bad, it's that later the show is SOOOOO much better." It's like going from 0 to 200 in three seconds.

Then after you see that insane jump in quality you want to think to yourself, "Wow, just imagine how much more we could have had if the earlier seasons were this good."
Yeah, that's basically my feelings on season 1, now that we're starting to get into season 2 (which I've heard also improves as it goes along). A lot of the criticism seems to be in retrospect, where people are judging it based off of the higher quality of the later seasons, even though many shows have to work out their kinks before reaching the form they're generally remembered to have (and I'm not talking about Gene's kinks). That's not to say season 1 doesn't have its stinkers, but they're nowhere near as bad as they're often made out to be.

My biggest sticking point with RLM's recent season 1 retrospective video was their suggestion to TNG newcomers to skip it entirely (and season 2 IIRC). Not only does that mean you miss out on the entire character of Tasha Yar (and thus a big reason why Yesterday's Enterprise is so fondly remembered), you also miss a lot of decent episodes, even some I'd say are pretty good. It may not reach the heights of some of the later seasons, but that's fine. It's a perfectly adequate first season.

On a side note, as a fan of Bones, Pulaski's great. I wish she could've stuck around after season 2, even if only as a guest star.
 
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