Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Catgirl Fucker said:
Tholians are somehow the only alien race in the series that isn't a bipedal humanoid of some kind. They are extremely hot living spooder shaped rocks with really pretty crystalline ships and would literally freeze to death if exposed to room temp as they require extreme amounts of heat to survive and are silicon based lifeforms. At least in klingon academy and TOS.
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What about the Sheliak?
 
I got a couple of good suggestions mostly of TNG episodes, and I will definitely keep them in mind if anybody actually ends up enjoying my critique.. But popular opinion seems to be TOS in general, and I was already thinking that I wanted to revisit TOS for my first outing anyway. However, I didn't see any actual suggestions for a TOS episode to talk about yet. Any thoughts? Preferably not an obvious one like Spock's Brain or something.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
I got a couple of good suggestions mostly of TNG episodes, and I will definitely keep them in mind if anybody actually ends up enjoying my critique.. But popular opinion seems to be TOS in general, and I was already thinking that I wanted to revisit TOS for my first outing anyway. However, I didn't see any actual suggestions for a TOS episode to talk about yet. Any thoughts? Preferably not an obvious one like Spock's Brain or something.
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Just saw The Changeling recently and it's pound for pound better than TMP. Same basic plot, but done on a thousandth of the budget and run time.

It also has an unintentionally funny couple of lines when it says Uhura is a mass of conflicting emotions and Spock immediately says she's a woman.
 
Catgirl Fucker said:
Tholians are somehow the only alien race in the series that isn't a bipedal humanoid of some kind. They are extremely hot living spooder shaped rocks with really pretty crystalline ships and would literally freeze to death if exposed to room temp as they require extreme amounts of heat to survive and are silicon based lifeforms. At least in klingon academy and TOS.
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The Changelings technically aren't biped humanoids, they just took that form to talk to Star Fleet and the Cardassians.

Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Just saw The Changeling recently and it's pound for pound better than TMP. Same basic plot, but done on a thousandth of the budget and run time.

It also has an unintentionally funny couple of lines when it says Uhura is a mass of conflicting emotions and Spock immediately says she's a woman.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=D34ofv9VquE
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Isn't that the one where Uhura's mind is wiped and they reteach her everything in about 15 minutes?
 
UnKillShredDur said:
Also pretty sure at least one of the races of the Xindi were not bipedal or humanoid, but you said you don't count Enterprise so nevermind.
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Zindy is in the Star Trek? Why didn't he phaser that fucking panther?

IDanceonTrannyGraves said:
Isn't that the one where Uhura's mind is wiped and they reteach her everything in about 15 minutes?
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Yeah, and there went one of the best lost opportunities in the series.

Can you imagine how traumatic something like that would be? But nope, she's "reeducated" by the next episode. Who needs happy memories of childhood and your first kiss?
 
IDanceonTrannyGraves said:
Isn't that the one where Uhura's mind is wiped and they reteach her everything in about 15 minutes?
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Biggest wtf moment in the franchise, not even the space newt mating on Voyager can touch it. And it's even in a good episode. Somehow the writer thought it made sense to go walk it off after having your brain erased.
 
IDanceonTrannyGraves said:
The Changelings technically aren't biped humanoids, they just took that form to talk to Star Fleet and the Cardassians.



Isn't that the one where Uhura's mind is wiped and they reteach her everything in about 15 minutes?
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That's not how that particular scene plays out. Chapels says she's "on the First grade reader" and we don't see her again in the episode. So, it's reasonable to assume enough time passes in between episodes.

Also, Doomsday Machine is the beginning of the Evil Admiral trope.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
However, I didn't see any actual suggestions for a TOS episode to talk about yet.
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Did you miss my suggestion of the Deanna Troi interspecies rape baby episode? Or "The City on the Edge of Forever" if you choose one of the best ever.
 
AnOminous said:
Did you miss my suggestion of the Deanna Troi interspecies rape baby episode? Or "The City on the Edge of Forever" if you choose one of the best ever.
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Deanna Troi is from TNG. As I said, I was already thinking about starting with a TOS episode.
I *do* want to rewatch City on the edge of Forever sometime soon, but I want to at least start off with a middle of the road episode of TOS that isn't stereotypically loved or hated for my first outing.

I think I'm gonna go with @Drag-on Knight 91873 's suggestion of "The Changeling" because I don't offhand remember anything about it at the moment, (I have seen every episode of TOS before, but it's been years.) I can use my shitty memory to treat it like I'm watching it for the first time.

Fear not though, space rape babies and cities on the edge of forever might very well be in my future if anybody ends up giving a shit about my opinions XD
 
@UnKillShredDur ‘The Mark of Gideon’ is a late TOS episode(S03E16) with a hilariously absurd premise that I won’t spoil in case you don’t immediately remember the reveal. Just a suggestion.
 
bango skank said:
@UnKillShredDur ‘The Mark of Gideon’ is a late TOS episode(S03E16) with a hilariously absurd premise that I won’t spoil in case you don’t immediately remember the reveal. Just a suggestion.
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yeah that's a good one if you really don't know every TOS episode already
spooped the fuck out of me as a kid
 
UnKillShredDur said:
I *do* want to rewatch City on the edge of Forever sometime soon, but I want to at least start off with a middle of the road episode of TOS that isn't stereotypically loved or hated for my first outing.
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I forget the name of the salt vampire episode but that was pretty mid.
 
IDanceonTrannyGraves said:
The Changelings technically aren't biped humanoids, they just took that form to talk to Star Fleet and the Cardassians.
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There's a bunch if you count intelligent space crystals and the various floaty glowy dudes who live in wormholes or whatever. It's mostly the walking around types that are humanoid. But then if we're talking non-humanoid aliens, why wouldn't they mostly be too big or too small to walk around in a ship?

Every time a series does the "progenitor race" thing explaining why everyone looks like a regular dude with some shit glued to his face it fucking sucks so it's better just to not think about it (including when they have done it).
 
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