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I've decided that I want a serialized live action Starship Troopers but set in the book universe, not the movies. Something like Roughnecks. It will never happen though because of how critical of communism the novel was.
 
Meriasek said:
Man, classic Fallout PnP is another thing I'd love to do, being a huge Fallout fan who has been severely disappointed by the direction the series took with Bethesda.
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Yea I am of the right age to recall the Demo of Fallout 1 on a Cd from a game magasine and been playing it since launch, love the originals and think Beth can go suck start a shotgun with what they have done with the IP. I was pissed when BIS where not able to do Van Buren because the story they had was great.

White Devil said:
I've decided that I want a serialized live action Starship Troopers but set in the book universe, not the movies. Something like Roughnecks. It will never happen though because of how critical of communism the novel was.
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Yea it sucks that we wont get a decent Starship Troopers series, I can see them trying but it getting bastardised to the point it's nothing like the Film or Books.
 
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Phalanges Mycologist said:
Yea it sucks that we wont get a decent Starship Troopers series, I can see them trying but it getting bastardised to the point it's nothing like the Film or Books.
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Back in '59 when the book came out, there was lots and lots of hand wringing and pearl clutching over how the book "encouraged fascism". Given how everything right of Mao now is Nazism and how outright pozzed Jewywood is now, I don't see another adaption ever happening. I can dream though.
 
White Devil said:
Back in '59 when the book came out, there was lots and lots of hand wringing and pearl clutching over how the book "encouraged fascism". Given how everything right of Mao now is Nazism and how outright pozzed Jewywood is now, I don't see another adaption ever happening. I can dream though.
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is the anime any good?
 
Michael Wade said:
is the anime any good?
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The OVA is actually pretty faithful to the book with some changes. The movie took a LOT of story beats from it. If you watch both back to back you can tell exactly what Ed Neumeier took from it. I think he denied ever seeing the anime but I don't buy that at all.
 
Phalanges Mycologist said:
Yea it sucks that we wont get a decent Starship Troopers series, I can see them trying but it getting bastardised to the point it's nothing like the Film or Books.
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There was a 3d animated series called Roughnecks, which was officially set in the film continuity, but was much closer to the book. It used the film bugs, but it had the proper powered mechanised infantry suits and included a Skinnie in the cast. I didn't see much of it, but what I did see was interesting. Not great animation, but that's a given for the budget and the time it was made.
 
teriyakiburns said:
There was a 3d animated series called Roughnecks, which was officially set in the film continuity, but was much closer to the book. It used the film bugs, but it had the proper powered mechanised infantry suits and included a Skinnie in the cast. I didn't see much of it, but what I did see was interesting. Not great animation, but that's a given for the budget and the time it was made.
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Yea that's the series I was thinking of, I used to love it as a kid it was a decent sci-fi on before school on Friday mornings.
 
XYZpdq said:
is named after the Sulu sea since Roddenberry didn't want to pick a specific ethnicity (despite being the very first weeb in history).
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Admiral Perry of the Perry Expedition (1853-54) would beg to differ on that, before being told what a "weeb" is.
 
Flexo said:
Apparently he was the one who worked on a little show and then turned it over to a friend of his named JMS. That show? Babylon 5.
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*laughs in Straczynski*

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Star Trek carries karmic debt from our ancestors (TNG movies, borrowing heavily from B5, D.C. Fontana, Gene Coon etc. etc.) I wish no harm on Trek, but the law of cause and effect is real.
 
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Yes, a very pithily titled episode, this episode was basically a submarine movie in spaaaaaace and also gave zero fucks as it knew exactly what it was doing. Every single trope you can think of when it comes to a submarine movie? Yeah they did it.

The reason everyone's so hot isn't because of tension it's because of the brown dwarf. So everyone has this horrible, grimy layer of sweat on them? Check.

Spock alters the navigation array into a radar leading to near silent moments where you can just hear the pings? Check.

Guy gets killed just as the bulkheads slam shut saving one of our hero characters? Check.

Tense moments as medical struggles to deal with everything? Check.

And I fucking loved it. :Story:

Decent cinematography from this episode again. Nicely done. Feeling a little less TV show of the 90s, though the steam coming from the vents was a bit silly coming from exactly two points for like half the episode. It's 2022 guys, you can shove a smoke machine somewhere and let it leak slowly out of various panel cracks and stuff and will look totally better.

Hemmer continues to please me with his grouchyness and Uhura was great and they bounce off eachother nicely, and shockingly we had something approaching a B plot with those two which was actually very nice to see.

"Archeological surgery" to justify stabbing people with thread and needle was good too.

Biggest fucking plus: Did not show how the sausage was made to heighten the threat level.

We've now seen Gorn Ships and a set that acts as a "Nursery planet" for them to hatch and feed more Gorn but we've not seen a single Gorn on screen so far. Not one, nada. Zip. Very good move and makes them more of an actual threat.

Minuses, Ortega's still a bit smug and while the whole "everyone works together because we're starfleet" is far stronger in this show, Ortega strikes me as too near to a loose cannon to be truly safe at the helm. She's obviously there as a modern sop of "cool character who barely tolerates the rules" and it'll date the show a touch in the future... but then chunks of TNG are hilariously dated to the point of quaintness now.

La'An seemingly remembering the necessary elemental deus ex machina which then went nowhere was also a bit dissapojnting. Feel like it should be used in some way somewhere more than merking another ship.
 
Flexo said:
Listened to part of it. Apparently he was the one who worked on a little show and then turned it over to a friend of his named JMS. That show? Babylon 5.
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He's been trying to get his own scifi show going for years. Even managed to get some actors and make a pilot.

Unfortunately it was bad.

Anyway he's entertaining but take at least stuff like that with a fistful of salt.
 
Gene Roddenberry wrote an episode of original Star Trek, in which (somehow) "Deputy Barney Fife" gets transported to the future where Mr. Spock reports to Captain Kirk: "I'm afraid it's not life as we know it." However, the episode was never telecast since studio executives felt it was too far out for even sci-fi fans.

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Ponderous Pillock said:
Yes, a very pithily titled episode, this episode was basically a submarine movie in spaaaaaace and also gave zero fucks as it knew exactly what it was doing. Every single trope you can think of when it comes to a submarine movie? Yeah they did it.

The reason everyone's so hot isn't because of tension it's because of the brown dwarf. So everyone has this horrible, grimy layer of sweat on them? Check.

Spock alters the navigation array into a radar leading to near silent moments where you can just hear the pings? Check.

Guy gets killed just as the bulkheads slam shut saving one of our hero characters? Check.

Tense moments as medical struggles to deal with everything? Check.

And I fucking loved it. :Story:

Decent cinematography from this episode again. Nicely done. Feeling a little less TV show of the 90s, though the steam coming from the vents was a bit silly coming from exactly two points for like half the episode. It's 2022 guys, you can shove a smoke machine somewhere and let it leak slowly out of various panel cracks and stuff and will look totally better.

Hemmer continues to please me with his grouchyness and Uhura was great and they bounce off eachother nicely, and shockingly we had something approaching a B plot with those two which was actually very nice to see.

"Archeological surgery" to justify stabbing people with thread and needle was good too.

Biggest fucking plus: Did not show how the sausage was made to heighten the threat level.

We've now seen Gorn Ships and a set that acts as a "Nursery planet" for them to hatch and feed more Gorn but we've not seen a single Gorn on screen so far. Not one, nada. Zip. Very good move and makes them more of an actual threat.

Minuses, Ortega's still a bit smug and while the whole "everyone works together because we're starfleet" is far stronger in this show, Ortega strikes me as too near to a loose cannon to be truly safe at the helm. She's obviously there as a modern sop of "cool character who barely tolerates the rules" and it'll date the show a touch in the future... but then chunks of TNG are hilariously dated to the point of quaintness now.

La'An seemingly remembering the necessary elemental deus ex machina which then went nowhere was also a bit dissapojnting. Feel like it should be used in some way somewhere more than merking another ship.
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Hey, almost sounds like that show might be worth a watch. Almost.
If this show turns out to be good, it's simply too little too late. I don't give a shit about new ST anymore and since this is based on "REMEMBER STAAAAAAAR TREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK?!" nostalgia, I'll pass this one gladly.

Kinda reminds me: time to get back into Space 2063.
 
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