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Since Ensign Ro came up again, I just want to announce once more that she is my Trek Waifu. <3
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I'm on "destroy the crystalline entity" team, btw. Leaving that thing around would endangered so many other people.
We're supposed to get that humans are more "tolerant" in the future. Riker is just a protective type, not just with Troi.
I have always found the conclusion of "its alive and conscious, therefore we should somehow talk it out of killing entire planets worth of sentient life instead of just killing the fucking thing" argument to be the highest order of blithering suicidally empathetic nonsense.
Thankfully most Trek moral/ethical arguments rarely got this stupid in TNG.
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Or it's just a plot mechanism. It wouldn't be much of a show if every episode ended after ten minutes with all of Starfleet showing up and just blowing the shit out of everything.
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Crafting the necessary shipmodels back in the day was also time consuming and expensive. On the other hand... the people building these things had a lot of fun doing it.
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I kind of liked Picard's ambivalent stance about it--comparing it to a whale was correct in terms of scale, but it was also potentially an intelligent predator, a rare and potentially unique life form. Like the ship was perfectly safe, and if there were more or a civilization of them, they could easily have created more problems for themselves later. The thing was communicating! From one perspective it seems like they initiated peace talks then just murdered the other party. If it could be communicated with, it seems like protocol would require them to communicate with it, and not initiate hostilities. Outside of diplomatic assignments, its often felt like Picard sees them as being on what is primarily a science mission. The episode doesn't lend much to the idea that the crystalline entity has anything like sapience or real intelligence besides the fact that Lore managed to get it to do what he wanted once. If they had managed to decode a simple greeting or message from the entity that would have helped sell the gravity and ambiguity of the situation.
Also, in Star Trek, can they communicate with dogs and cats? Those universal translators are pretty cool. Even if the normal universal translators don't work, could Data? Seems like something he could manage, even if him not having a smell or body warmth would probably upset animals. Also, can LaForge see through people's clothes? Is that why he's always kind of awkward with women?
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I don't recall them trying it on dogs but I can see that coming up in Enterprise.
I would assume that cats _could_ communicate via the UT but just choose not to because cats
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"Next time bring a deck that isn't transparent to infrared light!"
But we already know what he sees and it's just heat blobs. Meaning that his sexual attraction has to be based on smell since he didn't know how beautiful Tasha was.
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He's got different settings and can tune it to track different frequencies on the EM spectrum too though, he's able to mess with it in clever ways sometimes, like when he got trapped with that... was it a Cardassian? Or a Romulan. One of them, they were in the cave, and they were injured and had to track down the probe.
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If Data could communicate with Spot he wouldn't have needed to make 221 feline supplements in his quest to find one he/she (Spot's gender changes which means it's a tranny cat or Data is a shit cat owner and has to replace all the dead ones) liked.
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If so, some weird pervert on the Enterprise (possibly Barclay) would have tried to fuck it in the holodeck.
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Barclay DID understand Cat psychology.
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I like Shaw. And he was totally right.
There were a few times when Picard has been doing what he's doing to others: when he cut communication with someone he was negotiating and when he told a Klingon captain he owed him a favor in order to obtain a ship. And he could do that because he was PICARD™. He's now just Picard. But Shaw's right: he's retired and Riker has no ship. Why would he have to comply with these two people who are giving him no reason to risk his ship and his crew? He said it almost literally: Picard and Riker used to act recklessly and they could put everybody in danger and jeopardize his career, specially if there was indeed a conspiracy inside Starfleet (and he might be even aware of it).
What was he rude at the beginning? Because he knew since they were on board that they were going to ask him a favor and probably expected he would do it based on their reputation. And then they came up with the worst kind of excuses that were obviously bs.
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Now I'm wondering how they tard-wrangled Patrick Stewart into acting in character. His weight in the writers' room was heavy in the first two seasons.
I've been thinking about how he got a cloaked ship and how much of that scene has a lot of executive logic going on in it. First of all, Picard was annoyed at having to play phone tag. Then he got a call from a glorified secretary. Finally, he makes a veiled threat. It's phrased politely, but it's clear what the actual meaning is. I wouldn't call Picard's career all that reckless though... well until he turned into Bernie Sanders in season 1.
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Rogue
They are the self-appointed protectors of the Federation. Amoral, shrouded in secrecy, answerable to no one, Section 31 is the mysterious covert operations division of Starfleet a rogue shadow group committed to safeguarding the Federation at any cost. Six months before their ultimate battle...
That one. I read it because it was a part of the cross-series Section 31 saga they were doing at the time.
Eh, it's the trek ethos to seek out new life - not just wipe it out. If coexistence is possible, it must be tried. Back when it appeared it was communicating with Lore.
Though it is fun to imagine it becoming buddy-buddy with the federation. "Attention Dominion! We have come to negotiate peace. If you decline, we will give the crystalline entity the founders' address."
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it has to wear a modified version of the Starfleet pajamasRogue
They are the self-appointed protectors of the Federation. Amoral, shrouded in secrecy, answerable to no one, Section 31 is the mysterious covert operations division of Starfleet a rogue shadow group committed to safeguarding the Federation at any cost. Six months before their ultimate battle...memory-beta.fandom.com
That one. I read it because it was a part of the cross-series Section 31 saga they were doing at the time.
Eh, it's the trek ethos to seek out new life - not just wipe it out. If coexistence is possible, it must be tried. Back when it appeared it was communicating with Lore.
Though it is fun to imagine it becoming buddy-buddy with the federation. "Attention Dominion! We have come to negotiate peace. If you decline, we will give the crystalline entity the founders' address."
Like that horta on the enterprise in the comics between WoK and SFS
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Quark becomes jealous of the tailoring order Starfleet just placed with Garak... XD
It is kind of funny how bad Gene Roddenberry was at world-building. Like this crystalline entity thing, yeah it's fun to think about it, but how in the world could such a thing exist in a galaxy with multiple interstellar governments? Especially when it's almost lovecraftian in description and acts? Just have this thing hit a world or two and there would be entire peace treaties formed between Ferengi, Klingons, Romulans and the Federation along with multi ship task forces sent out to hunt the damn thing down. Much less if it hit Dominion or Borg space.
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The crystalline entity maybe can be deal with locally, without the interference of the other big players in the region. However, your point becomes blatantly obvious by the time the Borg show up. Given the threat level, I doubt the Romulans for instance would sit idly by while the Federation is doing all the heavy lifting. They should know and realize: if Starfleet loses this fight, they're next on the menu.
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