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I stopped writing episode reviews for the new Picard season here because it gave me terminal cancer but in summary I think season 3 is just as bad as the previous two, albeit in a different way.

So far its coasted off nothing but fan service an unearned emotional beats stolen from better entries in the franchise, and as more of the plot begins to unfold its clear that this is going to turn into another stupid unsatisfying mess as every other season has. A majority of the season so far has been padding with sudden inconsequential conflicts introduced and resolved with a span of 15 minutes to give the illusion of progress. In 7 episodes the plot has basically gone no where and we don't even have any character development of world building to show for it, just more smoke and mirrors to trick you into thinking you're watching a tv show and not a 12 hour slideshow of things the writers saw on memory alpha.

This also might be the most creatively bankrupt NuTrek production so far and I challenge any farmers to think of one completely original idea or concept in the new season that isn't riffing on shit we already know. It's insulting that Matalas and the other writers think they can get away with just showing stuff the fans already like in place of any actual storytelling and even worse to see how many people are eating it up. Imagine for a minute what this show would look like if the main cast were not the characters from TNG but a bunch of new characters, it would become indistinguishable from the likes of star trek discovery or any of the other garbage new series because they are the same. All the same bad writing, bad directing, ugly cinematography and total disregard for what makes star trek so memorable.

Frankly I'm over it, it looks like they have a bunch more of these terrible shows slated for release but at this point a lot of them don't even register in my mind as star trek, seeing this skinwalker of TNG however just hurts.
 
Fucking retarded episode when I think about it more. A series of dumb fucking mistakes leading to them losing the titan to the only character who seems like she's having fun being there.
No Warf and Raffi so I presume that they were not paid as much.
Supreme commander Snoke doesn't work for me tbh, I guess we learned he's not a shapeshifter but some new threat. Probably Picard from a multiverse or something gay.



OK niggers, I'm going to call it. The clicky things on Hunny Bunnie's ship are not changelings, but Remans. Supreme Commander Snoke is Shinzon, or another Picard Clone. Inside him is Shinzon.
 
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Great President of McHell said:
A majority of the season so far has been padding with sudden inconsequential conflicts introduced and resolved with a span of 15 minutes to give the illusion of progress.
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Well said. People act out of character for seemingly no reason - only to have an unearned, emotional resolution shortly afterward when they come around. Nothing was more egregious than Riker ordering Picard off of the bridge after announcing that he's doomed the entire ship and its crew. Wantonly unprofessional and unbecoming of a leader, but I guess the writers needed a reason to get Picard off of the bridge so he and Riker could get a scene with just the two of them.
 
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Clown College 2nd Year said:
Please God no!

I can't quote WonderWho but Salome Jens who played the female changeling is 87 years old now so I doubt the actress herself will be making an appearance. They might copy/paste her face onto another actor though. I think I could see her being behind the entire revenge plot maybe she broke out of the federation prison or somehow communicated with the other changelings.
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The Log Lady was like a hundred and senile and that didn't stop David Lynch from dragging her back. If a dude with actual merit will do that, I'm sure that some exec at Paramount will have eighty pounds of makeup caked on her and shoved in front of a green screen.
 
Great President of McHell said:
I stopped writing episode reviews for the new Picard season here because it gave me terminal cancer but in summary I think season 3 is just as bad as the previous two, albeit in a different way.

So far its coasted off nothing but fan service an unearned emotional beats stolen from better entries in the franchise, and as more of the plot begins to unfold its clear that this is going to turn into another stupid unsatisfying mess as every other season has. A majority of the season so far has been padding with sudden inconsequential conflicts introduced and resolved with a span of 15 minutes to give the illusion of progress. In 7 episodes the plot has basically gone no where and we don't even have any character development of world building to show for it, just more smoke and mirrors to trick you into thinking you're watching a tv show and not a 12 hour slideshow of things the writers saw on memory alpha.

This also might be the most creatively bankrupt NuTrek production so far and I challenge any farmers to think of one completely original idea or concept in the new season that isn't riffing on shit we already know. It's insulting that Matalas and the other writers think they can get away with just showing stuff the fans already like in place of any actual storytelling and even worse to see how many people are eating it up. Imagine for a minute what this show would look like if the main cast were not the characters from TNG but a bunch of new characters, it would become indistinguishable from the likes of star trek discovery or any of the other garbage new series because they are the same. All the same bad writing, bad directing, ugly cinematography and total disregard for what makes star trek so memorable.

Frankly I'm over it, it looks like they have a bunch more of these terrible shows slated for release but at this point a lot of them don't even register in my mind as star trek, seeing this skinwalker of TNG however just hurts.
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I've moved over to the Orville a while ago and only really talk about old Trek idiosyncrasies anyways. Because I want to believe in this universe and thus apply reasoning to stitch together continuity that was never meant to be stitched together in the first place.

On to Terry Matalas. He gives me Dave Filoni vibes to me. His writing feels like actual fan-fiction while missing the point of why the old show was so good in the first place, he inherited showrunner status when people above him stopped caring about this particular project, and he gets a lot of praise as the savior of his franchise despite his lack of talent and vision. Ron Moore had memberberries in his scrips at times, like with Relics, but it was a story first and a pretty good one at that. Matalas... is not as good as Ronald D. Moore. The highest good he did was create a long TNG movie with memberberries in it. It remains to be seen whether his work hits good enough or just mediocre, but I don't think he did the character writing necessary to make it enduring, which is what the good Star Trek media had.
 
Bobson_Dugnutt said:
I don't even know where my head is at this point in season 3. There's fleeting moments that are nice here and there, but basically the moment they stepped onto Daystrom Station the show has gotten worse and worse.

Also, can someone explain what kind of retarded plan involves stealing a portal super weapon as a distraction? It's right on the same level as Gob's plan to switch the coolers to trick Kitty in Arrested Development.
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I agree, up until Episode 6 it was ok. It aped way too much better trek episodes and movies, but was at least competent. Since Daystrom its just gotten worse. Honestly, if this ended after the nebula, it would have been fine knock-off of Wrath of Khan.
 
I maintain that every season of Picard has been bad through and through, But there is always a very discernible downward spiral around episode 6 in all of them. Perhaps its because its the point where they have to stop holding the show afloat on mystery and fake "intrigue" and start to reveal that there's really going to be nothing behind the curtain. Or maybe its just the point where the show wears out its welcome after spinning its wheels for as long as possible.

Either way they didn't fool me this time and won't ever again.
 
Great President of McHell said:
I maintain that every season of Picard has been bad through and through, But there is always a very discernible downward spiral around episode 6 in all of them. Perhaps its because its the point where they have to stop holding the show afloat on mystery and fake "intrigue" and start to reveal that there's really going to be nothing behind the curtain. Or maybe its just the point where the show wears out its welcome after spinning its wheels for as long as possible.

Either way they didn't fool me this time and won't ever again.
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Lies! Season 1 sucked from episode 1 and fell apart by episode 3 at the latest. Season 2 lasted maybe 2 episodes before it shit the bed. Season 3 reaching 5 episodes is amazing in comparison.
 
What's killing me is all the unearned grandiosity and contrived stakes. The show has done nothing to generate any semblance of tangible existential threat but instead leaned into what every fucking nuTrek series loves to do: fall back on DON'T TRUST STARFLEET BRO, THEY'RE COMPROMISED AND ACTUALLY EVIL BRO mixed with the magic macguffin person who's the key to everything. It sucks, it's cliched, and it's boring.

How could they not have learned to do what the xfiles and DS9 figured out years ago, which is blending one-off episodes with your mythos/overarching ones. I know this is a shorter season but you've got more than enough time to make it work but instead we get boring boring boring memberberry shit that goes nowhere as if they're deliberately spinning their wheels. Somehow TNG with its regular 20+ episode seasons feels like it moved at warp speed compared to this slog.

Everyone who fellated this season should have their head examined or get checked out for battered wife syndrome because even though it's not as aggressively retarded or bad as the first two seasons, this still sucks.
 
This show only makes sense if they came up with a "shock and awe" endgame, and merely reverse engineered enough episodes to call it a season. We will see in the next three weeks.

Today Alex Kurtzman announced a hip, diverse Starfleet Academy show for teens. Last one out please turn off the lights.
 
Reinhardo-sama said:
Oh fuck, I indeed lived long enough to witness man-made horrors beyond my comprehension.
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If they go with what they set up in Discovery, they'll need to Baron Harkonnen Tilly so she can actually teach there.They're going to need some sort of anti-gravity belt/harness to support her weight. Or maybe just an old-fashioned crane.
 
davids877 said:
If they go with what they set up in Discovery, they'll need to Baron Harkonnen Tilly so she can actually teach there.They're going to need some sort of anti-gravity belt/harness to support her weight. Or maybe just an old-fashioned crane.
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Ah fuck it, this is disturbing nightmare fuel, they should do it.
 
Great President of McHell said:
I stopped writing episode reviews for the new Picard season here because it gave me terminal cancer but in summary I think season 3 is just as bad as the previous two, albeit in a different way.

So far its coasted off nothing but fan service an unearned emotional beats stolen from better entries in the franchise, and as more of the plot begins to unfold its clear that this is going to turn into another stupid unsatisfying mess as every other season has. A majority of the season so far has been padding with sudden inconsequential conflicts introduced and resolved with a span of 15 minutes to give the illusion of progress. In 7 episodes the plot has basically gone no where and we don't even have any character development of world building to show for it, just more smoke and mirrors to trick you into thinking you're watching a tv show and not a 12 hour slideshow of things the writers saw on memory alpha.
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Sounds like what happened with the Mandalorian. Fanservice to hook in the normies, a plot that goes nowhere despite being several episodes in, small-scale conflicts against local threats to keep up the guise of progress, the only difference was that there was some world building for the Mandalorian, even though it undermined everything the good guys accomplished in the OT.

Writers basically just use the same beats over and over again, it doesn't matter what show it is. Fanservice, plots that feel like filler, and small-scale conflicts that are easily solved. It's like they can't write a long, over-arching plot for shit anymore.
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
Sounds like what happened with the Mandalorian. Fanservice to hook in the normies, a plot that goes nowhere despite being several episodes in, small-scale conflicts against local threats to keep up the guise of progress, the only difference was that there was some world building for the Mandalorian, even though it undermined everything the good guys accomplished in the OT.

Writers basically just use the same beats over and over again, it doesn't matter what show it is. Fanservice, plots that feel like filler, and small-scale conflicts that are easily solved. It's like they can't write a long, over-arching plot for shit anymore.
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Things are bad enough without bringing Star Wars into it. I haven't seen much Star Wars these days but they seem to be coasting on the seat of their pants. Best case for Picard, things are working towards a satisfying conclusion. Worst case, it's all just dumb callbacks and we're the dumber for having watched it.

It seems Picard is trying in its own sad way to right the ship, while D+ Star Wars aligns its trajectory with a ship already sunk.
 
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