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It might be a low bar, but this is the best season of Picard. 1 and 2 were slow as fuck snooze-fests, then they forced faggotry into it with Seven and Raffi lezzing it up which also put me off it.

I unironically enjoyed most of season 1 and 2 of Discovery, then vowed to never watch it again after watching the whole of S3 waiting for it to get good, but instead just got more queers and overweight bridge trolls. It's a shame because it wasn't the best Trek by far but it was one that I could also watch with my wife. She doesn't give a shit about tachyon emissions and positronic dicks etc, so I don't think she would be interested in anything pre Enterprise.
There was that argument made by JessieGender regarding how Star Trek TV shows always have to find their footing in the first 2 seasons, and then 3 is an improvvement, and from 4 onwards is full speed ahead.

Thing is I don't see much in the future of Picard, considering they're all old as fuck.
 
There was that argument made by JessieGender regarding how Star Trek TV shows always have to find their footing in the first 2 seasons, and then 3 is an improvvement, and from 4 onwards is full speed ahead.

Thing is I don't see much in the future of Picard, considering they're all old as fuck.
That argument used to be true until ST: Discovery; that show never got good. It was also predicated on the standards and practices of 90s TV production where it really was a case of beta-testing the show and useful Nielson feedback took about a year to get to producers. Now? Assuming Youtube comments don't get censored or bot farm likes, shows can get statistical and qualitative feedback in about a day. They absolutely can figure out what is or what is not working with a show within a year (I'm including the production time to make episodes). Therefore, there is no excuse as to why it takes two whole years of production before they figure out what works and what doesn't.

Star Trek in general basically has to coast on the casting decisions made 30 years ago to function. To their credit, they did try to make new characters, but modern actors lack what Call Me Chato refers to as the Royal Jelly. Combined with terrible writing and none of these new characters are compelling.
 
That argument used to be true until ST: Discovery; that show never got good. It was also predicated on the standards and practices of 90s TV production where it really was a case of beta-testing the show and useful Nielson feedback took about a year to get to producers. Now? Assuming Youtube comments don't get censored or bot farm likes, shows can get statistical and qualitative feedback in about a day. They absolutely can figure out what is or what is not working with a show within a year (I'm including the production time to make episodes). Therefore, there is no excuse as to why it takes two whole years of production before they figure out what works and what doesn't.

Star Trek in general basically has to coast on the casting decisions made 30 years ago to function. To their credit, they did try to make new characters, but modern actors lack what Call Me Chato refers to as the Royal Jelly. Combined with terrible writing and none of these new characters are compelling.
I liked Discovery, but then again my tastes are varied to the point that the list of shows I won't watch are short and include an anime where a college girl that looks like a preschooler has the hots for her landlord's son that's a middle schooler that looks like a highschooler. And even then I watched at least half of it before accepting it was trash.
 
The "third season" myth holds no water in the era of season-long arcs where individual episodes are indistinguishable parts of the whole and is really only kind-of true for TNG. Berman era had around 600 episodes and the story of one wouldn't tank a whole season. Nowadays the season is probably tanked beforehand because a single episode is indicative of the whole, and people can smell it like the flaming bag of poo someone left on the doorstep.
 
That argument used to be true until ST: Discovery; that show never got good. It was also predicated on the standards and practices of 90s TV production where it really was a case of beta-testing the show and useful Nielson feedback took about a year to get to producers. Now? Assuming Youtube comments don't get censored or bot farm likes, shows can get statistical and qualitative feedback in about a day. They absolutely can figure out what is or what is not working with a show within a year (I'm including the production time to make episodes). Therefore, there is no excuse as to why it takes two whole years of production before they figure out what works and what doesn't.

Star Trek in general basically has to coast on the casting decisions made 30 years ago to function. To their credit, they did try to make new characters, but modern actors lack what Call Me Chato refers to as the Royal Jelly. Combined with terrible writing and none of these new characters are compelling.
I enjoyed Strange New Worlds season 1, I thought it was charming enough and bright (in terms of actual lighting used on their sets) compared to others. I tried watching Discovery but I didn't get into it a whole lot, I should give it a try again in the future. I mostly remember Sonequa-Green from The Walking Dead and I did not like her in that show, so there's a little bias about her role in Discovery, and also I remember reading something how she claimed she was the first Black captain in Star Trek.

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They absolutely can figure out what is or what is not working with a show within a year (I'm including the production time to make episodes).
Well, the thing isn't necessarily that they can't. It's that they absolutely WON'T:
"haha the audience is full of pleb chuds anyway, we don't need to listen to them, so more troons and niggers it is for everyone!"

Trek is dead, has been for nearly 20 years. Multi-billion dollar megacorps wanking their ESG-scores can never reanimate it.
 
Let's play a fun game! If you watched most or all of STD, name as many of the crew as you can WITHOUT looking them up.
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I've watched every episode and I have no idea what the male nigger or the gook's names are. I haven't watched ST: Ent since it aired but I can still name most if not all of the bridge crew. I also forgot the major slampig energy Tilly was emanating during season 1. You just know that if you gave her any attention she'd suck you off in the nearest Jeffries tube.
 
Let's play a fun game! If you watched most or all of STD, name as many of the crew as you can WITHOUT looking them up.
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Let's see...

Guinan, Piccolo, Wash, my sexy cousin from donegal, Crying Mangirl, Discount Richard Ayowade, Kimbal Cho, scoured chicken carcass, and Seven of Nine.

How did I do?
 
Let's play a fun game! If you watched most or all of STD, name as many of the crew as you can WITHOUT looking them up.
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I've watched every episode and I have no idea what the male nigger or the gook's names are. I haven't watched ST: Ent since it aired but I can still name most if not all of the bridge crew. I also forgot the major slampig energy Tilly was emanating during season 1. You just know that if you gave her any attention she'd suck you off in the nearest Jeffries tube.
I'll try to guess here.

Whoopi Goldberg, a fucking mannequin, Jessica Chastain, another tolken black guy, Jet Li's long lost young brother, Dovana from Guild Wars, metallic Squidward, another black lady and some rejected X-Men mutant.
 
Let's play a fun game! If you watched most or all of STD, name as many of the crew as you can WITHOUT looking them up.
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I've watched every episode and I have no idea what the male nigger or the gook's names are. I haven't watched ST: Ent since it aired but I can still name most if not all of the bridge crew. I also forgot the major slampig energy Tilly was emanating during season 1. You just know that if you gave her any attention she'd suck you off in the nearest Jeffries tube.
That girl from Black Panther, I Robot, Alan Tudyk, token redhead, Sasha from the Walking Dead, afropajeet, John Cho, Saru and Natalie Dormer if she starred in Sliding Doors and got up on that fucking train.
 
I enjoyed Strange New Worlds season 1, I thought it was charming enough and bright (in terms of actual lighting used on their sets) compared to others. I tried watching Discovery but I didn't get into it a whole lot, I should give it a try again in the future. I mostly remember Sonequa-Green from The Walking Dead and I did not like her in that show, so there's a little bias about her role in Discovery, and also I remember reading something how she claimed she was the first Black captain in Star Trek.

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I gave up on SNW half way through the first episode when it was clear they shoved woke BS in it too. And the characters were modern day people on a starship, not future people on a starship
 
Let's play a fun game! If you watched most or all of STD, name as many of the crew as you can WITHOUT looking them up.
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I've watched every episode and I have no idea what the male nigger or the gook's names are. I haven't watched ST: Ent since it aired but I can still name most if not all of the bridge crew. I also forgot the major slampig energy Tilly was emanating during season 1. You just know that if you gave her any attention she'd suck you off in the nearest Jeffries tube.
I thought only the faggots, fatty, black space jesus and the alien were main characters, the rest were unnamed background filler. Would smash the 7 of 9 knockoff though
 
Let's play a fun game! If you watched most or all of STD, name as many of the crew as you can WITHOUT looking them up.
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I've watched every episode and I have no idea what the male nigger or the gook's names are. I haven't watched ST: Ent since it aired but I can still name most if not all of the bridge crew. I also forgot the major slampig energy Tilly was emanating during season 1. You just know that if you gave her any attention she'd suck you off in the nearest Jeffries tube.
Guinan Jr, a sex bot, guy from the wrong sci fi show, isn't this the one that gets really fat, the mary sue, love interest for the mary sue, knock off Sulu, 6 of 9 and token alien.
 
There was that argument made by JessieGender regarding how Star Trek TV shows always have to find their footing in the first 2 seasons, and then 3 is an improvvement, and from 4 onwards is full speed ahead.

Thing is I don't see much in the future of Picard, considering they're all old as fuck.
Not sure I buy that. Star Trek TOS got demonstrably worse in it's third season. TNG maybe. But there were other factors there like getting rid of Gene Roddenberry and a writer's strike that hampered season 2. I don't remember any seasons of DS9 being objectively bad. I can't rate Voyager because to this day I haven't seen the whole series. Ditto Enterprise.

Let's play a fun game! If you watched most or all of STD, name as many of the crew as you can WITHOUT looking them up.
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I've watched every episode and I have no idea what the male nigger or the gook's names are. I haven't watched ST: Ent since it aired but I can still name most if not all of the bridge crew. I also forgot the major slampig energy Tilly was emanating during season 1. You just know that if you gave her any attention she'd suck you off in the nearest Jeffries tube.
Black girl who isn't the main character, token gay, slam piggie, Mr. Do Needful (or Mr. N. IGAR can't tell which), Sulu wannabe, current year hair girl with a thing glued to her head, some sort of apple product thing, Doug Jones.
 
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Not sure I buy that. Star Trek TOS got demonstrably worse in it's third season. TNG maybe. But there were other factors there like getting rid of Gene Roddenberry and a writer's strike that hampered season 2. I don't remember any seasons of DS9 being objectively bad. I can't rate Voyager because to this day I haven't seen the whole series. Ditto Enterprise.
TOS is the exception due to CBS having had enough of the show and sidelined it to the 10 o'clock friday timeslot. In general, 90s Star Trek did get better by the third season. DS9 had okay episodes here and there, but it's really seasons 3, 4, and 5 does it get exceptional. Enterprise does get better by season 4, but that was due to a change in management. In fairness to Picard, Matalas is a change in management... sort of. Matalas is a Dave Filoni-type and exerts the kind of influence a middle manager would. He still has to follow company guidelines such as extremely dark lighting, have a young character who's the key to everything, and a sword-wielding maniac that sneaks up on people first, but he has authority otherwise.

But why should I care that the show is now up to Bad TNG movie when The Orville exists?
 
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