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Why would it matter whether it's gold when you can just make gold? Maybe they have a ruleset or something on the replicators so you can't say "replicate me a forged gold badge." Or at least it will get reported if you do, sort of like the holodeck seems to have rules, even if it let Barclay do coom simulations of other crew.
What? I'm pretty sure that's the point. Gold is so common it's now used in fashion. They use gold in the manufacture of the equivalent of their disposable cell phones. Whether for looks or because it actually aids in its purpose is probably in the technical manual somewhere but I don't feel like looking it up.
 
Why would it matter whether it's gold when you can just make gold? Maybe they have a ruleset or something on the replicators so you can't say "replicate me a forged gold badge." Or at least it will get reported if you do, sort of like the holodeck seems to have rules, even if it let Barclay do coom simulations of other crew.
It matters to a 19th century poker player. And Ferengi sometimes, but Quark's cousin was making a rhetorical point.
 
So why would anyone even bother biting gold to confirm that it's gold if that's completely meaningless?
I like to imagine they just enjoy making fun of retarded hoo-mans.
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Then again, the Ferengi palate is a complex thing, maybe they like a little Goldschlaeger with their tube grubs?
 
The ferengi didn't always think gold was worthless. In his first appearance, Definitely-Not-Quark (played by famous talking box Armin Shimerman) declares the Hu-mon use of gold in their com badges as a "despicable use of the valuable metal".


Just about everything else established in this episode remained part of Ferengi culture, so it's weird that they'd completely drop the love for gold in just a few years. In fact, I'm pretty sure the idea of gold being worthless only appeared in Who Mourns for Morn; it was still a precious metal before then, even if it could be replicated.
 
I I watched the episode that was definitely not about Palestine and Israel, where terrorists capture gates McFadden. Not to spoil anything but a key point of the plot is that the terrorist were using dimensional jumps to evade detection, and this technology allowed them to be immune to teleportation as well as force fields, but it was also killing them. This dimensional jumping technology had a range of at least as far as from the planet to High orbit. The only drawback was that it was destroying them on a molecular level. Why didn't they just indiscriminately teleport bombs this way instead of teleporting themselves. Why did no one else consider using this technology this way especially on like the Borg, on a large and small scale. You You could dimension jump warp core size bombs into the center of a board cube, and then have some sort of handheld dimension jump thing tied to a replicator so you could dimensionally shift a grenade into its chest. And it's not like these things couldn't transport inanimate objects, considering that the terrorists used the technology to transport themselves along with a bomb onto the Enterprise, when they could have just teleported the bomb, or a hundred bombs all over the ship
Just about everything else established in this episode remained part of Ferengi culture, so it's weird that they'd completely drop the love for gold in just a few years.
They should have kept the dildo whip guns. Season one was so silly
 
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It's amazing how much is said between Worf and Picard within these 4 minutes of dialog.
He fucked up on duty, Picard came in, reprimanded him, then actually asked what was going on. Crisis of personal faith is no small issue. Picard recognizes that, allows Worf to go on leave to sort his shit out, then leaves wishing him well on his journey.

If this was written in the modern day, Picard would've slapped the hell out of Worf, told him to grow up and laugh and belittle his beliefs, and then a girl boss would've come in and emasculated him even further.

Why can't we go back to this kind of writing between characters (even though the writing was a little inconsistent at times in TNG) anymore? Fuck, I hate modern media. If this was modern Star Trek, it would've taken at least 20 minutes to get to the fuckin' point of the episode. All it takes here is 4 minutes. 4 minutes of good dialog.
 
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I love these two videos as well. Just great writing by adults with the understanding that they're writing professional adults.




In fact, I'm pretty sure the idea of gold being worthless only appeared in Who Mourns for Morn; it was still a precious metal before then, even if it could be replicated.
I always heard it as Quark being upset and when saying gold is worthless in the bar and cargo bay, it's because it is compared to latinum. Doesn't mean it isn't shiny and you can't appreciate it.
 
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I love these two videos as well. Just great writing by adults with the understanding that they're writing professional adults.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vdiQhMPt1Zo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1HSJtJZLyls
2 of my favorite scenes. You choose well, meatbag.

I always heard it as Quark being upset and when saying gold is worthless in the bar and cargo bay is because it is compared to latinum. Doesn't mean it isn't shiny and you can't appreciate it.
At the close of the episode we do hear Quark muttering to Morn that he had an idea about that gold dust...

It is a question what is anything worth in an era of replicators. The question is whether the matter is converted to energy or if just items are assembled from raw materials. Then gold might still have some worth as would any other element as a "building block" of replication. Though gold in that world might be like copper in ours. It has some value - especially in practical functions - but it's not a high store of value. (except for when it's literally storing latinum - the actual store of value)
 
It is a question what is anything worth in an era of replicators. The question is whether the matter is converted to energy or if just items are assembled from raw materials. Then gold might still have some worth as would any other element as a "building block" of replication. Though gold in that world might be like copper in ours. It has some value - especially in practical functions - but it's not a high store of value. (except for when it's literally storing latinum - the actual store of value)
Replicators still need power. I think specifically you need dilithium to power them.
 
I I watched the episode that was definitely not about Palestine and Israel, where terrorists capture gates McFadden. Not to spoil anything but a key point of the plot is that the terrorist were using dimensional jumps to evade detection, and this technology allowed them to be immune to teleportation as well as force fields, but it was also killing them. This dimensional jumping technology had a range of at least as far as from the planet to High orbit. The only drawback was that it was destroying them on a molecular level. Why didn't they just indiscriminately teleport bombs this way instead of teleporting themselves. Why did no one else consider using this technology this way especially on like the Borg, on a large and small scale. You You could dimension jump warp core size bombs into the center of a board cube, and then have some sort of handheld dimension jump thing tied to a replicator so you could dimensionally shift a grenade into its chest. And it's not like these things couldn't transport inanimate objects, considering that the terrorists used the technology to transport themselves along with a bomb onto the Enterprise, when they could have just teleported the bomb, or a hundred bombs all over the ship

Aforementioned episode is called "The High Ground" Season 3, Episode 12 if anyone is curious and wants to see it. This was the only episode the BBC banned for a time on television due to the mention of an "Irish unification". The fact that the entire episode was inspired by events going on in Ireland at the time didn't help. It's such a shame that a lot of the former writers have cucked out and actually denounced it. Ronald D. Moore has apparently labeled it an abomination.
 
Replicators still need power. I think specifically you need dilithium to power them.
No, dilithium moderates the matter/anti-matter reaction in a federation warp core and is only necessary because of the particular choices the federation took as it developed warp technology (which is why STDs whole "burn" thing was retarded; the federation would have switched back to big fusion generators or some other still-functional power source). Replicators can work just fine from any sufficiently powerful energy source.
 
is doing anything like this
the cost is presumably the biggest one as well as ROI, even at its height DS9 wasn't really the biggest thing on tv ratings wise. Voyager spanked it in the ratings, and the half dozen other shows with tons of aliens weren't really able to launch a franchise either. Think about how often people in Nu-trek gloat about diversity and being black and on star trek, only a very small population can even imagine themselves in the role of someone not of the same race, especially in live action. Now try getting them to imagine not being of the same species.
 
the cost is presumably the biggest one as well as ROI, even at its height DS9 wasn't really the biggest thing on tv ratings wise. Voyager spanked it in the ratings, and the half dozen other shows with tons of aliens weren't really able to launch a franchise either. Think about how often people in Nu-trek gloat about diversity and being black and on star trek, only a very small population can even imagine themselves in the role of someone not of the same race, especially in live action. Now try getting them to imagine not being of the same species.
Yeah I can understand why this is the case with live action shows, especially ones with a modest budget like old Trek. But I was referring to all media across the board, games, books, etc.
 
RIP Jeri Taylor. I liked her kid as the Vulcan. Heard he had a stroke but recovered. Best wishes to their family.

Anyone read the novels she wrote?
I read the one about Janeway's backstory, called "Mosaic". I thought it was pretty good. It has some very cliche stuff about how every man Janeway loves dies so she can have a tragic backstory. Except Admiral Paris, who just gets tortured by bloody Cardies. People spent years giving Jeri shit for being a bit of a cringe fangirl writer, always trying to pair up Janeway with her husbando Chakotay etc.

But I'll take cringe fangirls over the pycho retards running the show nowadays.
 
This is not about the show, but I recently got to see a preview of Captain's Chair, which is an asymmetrical deck building and resource management game that looks like it will be a very fun two player battle with high replayability. I can't wait for its release.
What? I'm pretty sure that's the point. Gold is so common it's now used in fashion. They use gold in the manufacture of the equivalent of their disposable cell phones. Whether for looks or because it actually aids in its purpose is probably in the technical manual somewhere but I don't feel like looking it up.
Gold is so common, its only use is to press latinum, which is of actual value
 
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I read the one about Janeway's backstory, called "Mosaic". I thought it was pretty good. It has some very cliche stuff about how every man Janeway loves dies so she can have a tragic backstory. Except Admiral Paris, who just gets tortured by bloody Cardies. People spent years giving Jeri shit for being a bit of a cringe fangirl writer, always trying to pair up Janeway with her husbando Chakotay etc.

But I'll take cringe fangirls over the pycho retards running the show nowadays.

To be fair, pairing Janeway with Chakotay was always the better option than the Seven / Chakotay asspull they decided on for the final episode for some reason. We've never seen the two interact romantically in any way, and we're just supposed to accept that they're together now? Nah. That ain't it.
 
To be fair, pairing Janeway with Chakotay was always the better option than the Seven / Chakotay asspull they decided on for the final episode for some reason. We've never seen the two interact romantically in any way, and we're just supposed to accept that they're together now? Nah. That ain't it.

How seven didnt end up with the Doctor is completely crazy. They had the chemistry, was even hinted at more than a few times and it just made sense with them both being outsiders trying to discover their humanity that they would find it in each other. Janeway/akoochemoya getting together didn't need to happen at all tbh. I wouldn't have been terribly upset if it did, but it was fine without.
 
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