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Fatsuit Shinji said:
Up until somewhat recently STO fell into the "official but not canon" category. Only "canon" bits of STO are the ships and other odds and ends Kurtzman's Trek had taken. After scrubbing the established lore of said ships and other odds and ends to make them fit into Kurtzman Trek. All of the above also to ships, people and etc. from various books, games (VG and tabletop) which got pilfered into Kurtzman Trek.

From what I seen the original studio and the player base are/were perfectly happy STO was not the Prime or JJ timeline but rather it's own timeline somewhere along side them.
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I know. I've dabbled with it on-and-off over the years. I started about a year before it went F2P. Honestly, they did F2P better than most games. And I liked some of the earlier missions. But I thought Gamma was sloppy, so that's the last time I played. Playing through the original gamma quadrant missions as a jem hadar aligned with starfleet, it just felt really dumb. I did like the jem hadar ships, though. Well, the carrier I bought. I don't remember what it was called, but it looked like a door stop. And the cardassian ships were fun. I had a carrier and an escort that were awesome.
 
Why does it seem like every Star Trek clip on YouTube has that "Video unavailable Watch on YouTube" BS, when trying to view on other sites or with youtube.com/embed/[vid code]?

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Paramount put out a video commemorating the 30th anniversary of Generations. If you like it I'd suggest making an archive of it now before it's taken down since it's unlisted and I've seen a couple of streams talking about it.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mgOZFny7F50
Paramount put out a video commemorating the 30th anniversary of Generations. If you like it I'd suggest making an archive of it now before it's taken down since it's unlisted and I've seen a couple of streams talking about it.
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There was some article about this, I wonder if there's a bts like the other Spock one. Sam Witwer as Kirk's stand-in and they used real Shatner's face and voice? I guess it's good that Otoy seems to be keeping the flame of old trek burning even if it's kind of creepy. Also supposedly there was some Std reference (u.s.s whatever). Double-also they are saying that Kirk visits the Kelvinverse out of the Nexus...? With all respect, sir, wouldn't it be more convenient to go back to the Enterprise B?

I can't bring myself to watch this (yet.)
 
I should rewatch Star Trek. All of it.
Well, all of the good ones. TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT. And The Orville.
Yes, I like Voyager. I've said it before, I'll say it again, it was newest and thus on the most when I grew up, so I have fond memories of it, even though it sours more every single time I watch episodes of it again as I age. It had a great premise, but came at a time when they didn't yet dare leave the episodic format.
Seven seasons of Voyager with the ship and the crew noticably changing due to the demands of years-long travel without proper Starfleet support and maintenance, having a sense of continuity, it would have been great.
Still, it had some good episodes and some decent character interactions, mostly the Doctor and Seven, who were always goldpressed latinum together.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mgOZFny7F50
Paramount put out a video commemorating the 30th anniversary of Generations. If you like it I'd suggest making an archive of it now before it's taken down since it's unlisted and I've seen a couple of streams talking about it.
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>literal fanfic premise about kirk being rezzed just so he could be reunited with spock on his death bed in the JJ Abrams universe
>memberberry smoothie pouring out the screen seasoned with AI faces
>barely 10 minutes long including credits
>actually just a fucking commercial for the 30th Anniversary of fucking Generations
>unironically works 10000% better than 15 years of nu-trek combined because it involves characters people care about not being miserable and broken failures in order to prop up shitty new OCs
 
Judge Holden said:
>literal fanfic premise about kirk being rezzed just so he could be reunited with spock on his death bed in the JJ Abrams universe
>memberberry smoothie pouring out the screen seasoned with AI faces
>barely 10 minutes long including credits
>actually just a fucking commercial for the 30th Anniversary of fucking Generations
>unironically works 10000% better than 15 years of nu-trek combined because it involves characters people care about not being miserable and broken failures in order to prop up shitty new OCs
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Its funny how everyone was dreading all of this happening when Star Trek was shoved into a new universe under JJ.

Now everyone is begging for something like this rather than the drek we actually got because that drek is simply so much more putrid and insulting. Its pretty much the same shit Star wars fans went through.
 
I was curious why O'Brien, an enlisted man, was the chief engineer for a critical space station. turns out the ds9 writers just wanted him to be enlisted, because on TNG he was an officer. Rodenberry wanted everyone on a spaceship to be an officer, like modern day astronauts. they just called him chief O'Brian on TNG becuase he was the transporter chief ,in the same way geordi was chief engineer. if you wanted you could make a silly retcon and say that his officers rank on the ship was a "field promotion" since all ship crews are officers, and when he got tranferred off to ds9 he went back to his original rank, but why bother? for that matter why bother making O'brian enlisted?
 
Agreeably4263 said:
I was curious why O'Brien, an enlisted man, was the chief engineer for a critical space station. turns out the ds9 writers just wanted him to be enlisted, because on TNG he was an officer. Rodenberry wanted everyone on a spaceship to be an officer, like modern day astronauts. they just called him chief O'Brian on TNG becuase he was the transporter chief ,in the same way geordi was chief engineer. if you wanted you could make a silly retcon and say that his officers rank on the ship was a "field promotion" since all ship crews are officers, and when he got tranferred off to ds9 he went back to his original rank, but why bother? for that matter why bother making O'brian enlisted?
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I don't know very much about current day military, but it does seem weird to me that the chief engineer of an entire space station, even one considered to be in the backwaters of space as DS9 originally was, should be so low ranked that he would have to salute an ensign like Nog... And yet O'Brien himself said that Nog would indeed outrank him if he became an officer.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
I don't know very much about current day military, but it does seem weird to me that the chief engineer of an entire space station, even one considered to be in the backwaters of space as DS9 originally was, should be so low ranked that he would have to salute an ensign like Nog... And yet O'Brien himself said that Nog would indeed outrank him if he became an officer.
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Not that surprising. Chief engineer is still more of a civilian role than a military one and I imagine that the hierarchy was setup for military matters. Meaning that an ensign trained by Starfleet would probably have more military experience/training than most chief engineers. Therefore it makes sense that command would fall to an ensign rather than a Chief engineer should that become necessary.

Its not the case with O'brian since he is a veteran of the cardy war obviously and Nog is just a fresh ensign, but I imagine for most cases the chief engineers probably have never been in serious combat or even received military training and therefore Nog is higher up the chain than O'brian.
 
Here's an edited supercut with all the teasers tied together in the beginning






I really liked it. It felt respectful and didn't put words in anybody's mouth. You could view it as an afterlife kind of thing, a time travel thing or my favorite interpretation is that this respects the 1st 3 shatnerverse novels and builds off that. (A lot of it has elements that felt familiar to that series like spock visiting kirks grave.)

Someone else's comment said it best:" if this is the last good thing that comes out of star trek I can live with that happy."

The three kirks looking at each other was really cool. I dug that. Also I didn't realize the Vulcan chick was saavik.


marvlouslie said:
Aforementioned episode is called "The High Ground" Season 3, Episode 12 if anyone is curious and wants to see it. This was the only episode the BBC banned for a time on television due to the mention of an "Irish unification". The fact that the entire episode was inspired by events going on in Ireland at the time didn't help. It's such a shame that a lot of the former writers have cucked out and actually denounced it. Ronald D. Moore has apparently labeled it an abomination.
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Yeah It really isn't a bad episode by any stretch.
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
After seeing what they had planned with season 8 I'm going to not do that. The only show I'm going to mess with is Babylon 5 by making sure it's never threatened with a cancelation after season four so we can have a real fifth season.
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Season 8 is star trek online.
 
Agreeably4263 said:
I was curious why O'Brien, an enlisted man, was the chief engineer for a critical space station. turns out the ds9 writers just wanted him to be enlisted, because on TNG he was an officer. Rodenberry wanted everyone on a spaceship to be an officer, like modern day astronauts. they just called him chief O'Brian on TNG becuase he was the transporter chief ,in the same way geordi was chief engineer. if you wanted you could make a silly retcon and say that his officers rank on the ship was a "field promotion" since all ship crews are officers, and when he got tranferred off to ds9 he went back to his original rank, but why bother? for that matter why bother making O'brian enlisted?
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Picard didn't like him that much. After he was transferred, he got demoted.
 
Cnut said:
There was some article about this, I wonder if there's a bts like the other Spock one. Sam Witwer as Kirk's stand-in and they used real Shatner's face and voice? I guess it's good that Otoy seems to be keeping the flame of old trek burning even if it's kind of creepy. Also supposedly there was some Std reference (u.s.s whatever). Double-also they are saying that Kirk visits the Kelvinverse out of the Nexus...? With all respect, sir, wouldn't it be more convenient to go back to the Enterprise B?

I can't bring myself to watch this (yet.)
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This is getting rave reviews everywhere I see it but, for my part, it's just... meh.
 
Drag-on Knight 91873 said:
Picard didn't like him that much. After he was transferred, he got demoted.
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To be fair to Picard, he kinda had to give the guy some level of demotion after the captains log for this shit reached star fleet command...

"So....your transporter operator was married to a 12 year old girl?"

"erm...it was a transporter accident....very funny story actually even I got turned into gangly little..."

"Uhuh and also from the looks of it he....wait a fucking moment HE IMPREGNATED HER?!"

"thi....this was before the accident!"

"SHE WAS EVEN YOUNGER?!"

"....I...wait...."

"Jesus Fucking Christ if this blows up we all fucking go down for letting this shit happen on the flagship. Just demote the filthy irish pervert and dump him on a remote outpost on the edge of federation space, and we can pretend this never happened"
 
Judge Holden said:
To be fair to Picard, he kinda had to give the guy some level of demotion after the captains log for this shit reached star fleet command...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=F2H_OAIhrhU
"So....your transporter operator was married to a 12 year old girl?"

"erm...it was a transporter accident....very funny story actually even I got turned into gangly little..."

"Uhuh and also from the looks of it he....wait a fucking moment HE IMPREGNATED HER?!"

"thi....this was before the accident!"

"SHE WAS EVEN YOUNGER?!"

"....I...wait...."

"Jesus Fucking Christ if this blows up we all fucking go down for letting this shit happen on the flagship. Just demote the filthy irish pervert and dump him on a remote outpost on the edge of federation space, and we can pretend this never happened"
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Burn the rice, pay the price.
 
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