Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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UnKillShredDur said:
Setting aside the fact that you only get credit for what you actually show on screen, it makes Nero an even more pathetic villain if offscreen he and his crew got overpowered by Klingons with ships over a century less advanced then his own, and begs the question of why the Klingons never used that ship after capturing it. We see how much it fucks up contemporary Federation ships.

And yeah, him wanting revenge for something that has not happened yet, and that he has more than enough time to think of a way to fix, makes me realize that yeah Star Trek 2009 was a pretty shit film the more you think about it.
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iirc there's some Borg crap in his ship too
they were _probably_ planning to do something with that but I suspect they found out Borg were a separate pile of license
there was some chatter about that bald dude in the background with the weird cyberports in his head in FlareTrek and the actor very specifically said there's stuff that he can't talk about
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
iirc the backstory for FlareTrek 1 was pretty heavily fleshed out in comics and stuff, and includes B4 getting basically absorbed by Data's personality because fuck B4 nobody liked him so now Data is Captain of the Enterprise
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Something that promptly got retconned by Picard.

On which topic, I still can't get over just how bad the CGI for the Big Bad cyberbeasties was. Weird gnashing robot tentacles that just sort of wiggled around in a hole in space and looked like something you'd see in a a low budget Outer Limits episode.
 
teriyakiburns said:
Weird gnashing robot tentacles that just sort of wiggled around in a hole in space and looked like something you'd see in a a low budget Outer Limits episode.
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It’s a perfect example of how not to use an Abrams-style mystery box.

The Romulans are supposed to be sneaky, fine, but planning their own 9/11 event to smear Androids? At the end of the day, there was no reason for the Romulans not to work with the Federation to stop these weird synths invading their space.

Those tentacles from all the dimensions – they’re not even interesting, just tedious and easily dealt with.

We get this treacherous Soong Android tossed in, and what was her motive? Because I sure as hell can't remember.

Look, maybe I’m the only one who cares about this, but I resent how the Romulans are a lazy, fill-in-the-blank villain for whatever the writers are trying to force down our throats. It’s like they can’t trust the story to stand on its own, so they just throw in a familiar name – Borg, Romulans – it doesn’t matter, even if it completely contradicts everything we’ve seen before, and everything we’re going to see.
 
Reinhardo-sama said:
They should have done that. Would have been epic if Basedway told Picard to get fucked.
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You know I stand corrected. I had forgotten SFDebris had reviewed 3 episodes of Picard and... yes he did a quick fanfic of had it been Janeway yelling at him in episode 2. I've timestamped the video below to the moment.
 
Flexo said:
Roberto Orci is gone from this mortal coil.

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Wow, I didn't expect him to die at this age. I know he had a huge ego (like every Bad Robot people) and once the Orci/Kurtzman duo parted ways, he completely disappeared.
As for the rip-off vs hommage thing (SFDebris' video), Kurtzman is known for ripping-off scenes from other movies and plot from books. He got sued for the script of The Island. The recent Section 31 movie is full of scenes and ideas taken from better movies.

Clown College 2nd Year said:
I don't know I did like Hercules and Xena for what they were. I wonder how much of the nutrek grabage was him or Kurtzman and Abrams.
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I believe Kurztman also started his career writing on Xena.
Kurtzman - like Abrams - was never a Star Trek fan, he only "became one" when he got the CBS/Paramount+ deal. You should see the Hollywood Reporter puff piece they did in his production office years ago, everything screamed fake fan/tourist:

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Miller said:
Wow, I didn't expect him to die at this age. I know he had a huge ego (like every Bad Robot people) and once the Orci/Kurtzman duo parted ways, he completely disappeared.
As for the rip-off vs hommage thing (SFDebris' video), Kurtzman is known for ripping-off scenes from other movies and plot from books. He got sued for the script of The Island. The recent Section 31 movie is full of scenes and ideas taken from better movies.


I believe Kurztman also started his career writing on Xena.
Kurtzman - like Abrams - was never a Star Trek fan, he only "became one" when he got the CBS/Paramount+ deal. You should see the Hollywood Reporter puff piece they did in his production office years ago, everything screamed fake fan/tourist:

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This nigga has one of the most punchable faces in hollywood.
 
I just turned on Pluto and joined a TNG episode in the middle. I'm guessing it's early cause Tasha Yar is there but what the fuck is going on?!

Everyone is scantily clad in white clothes on what I can only describe as a fuck planet. Wesley is fumbling some baddie that clearly wants to fuck and some orb just knocked out Data on the bridge...what the fuck am I watching?!
 
AllieKat said:
I just turned on Pluto and joined a TNG episode in the middle. I'm guessing it's early cause Tasha Yar is there but what the fuck is going on?!

Everyone is scantily clad in white clothes on what I can only describe as a fuck planet. Wesley is fumbling some baddie that clearly wants to fuck and some orb just knocked out Data on the bridge...what the fuck am I watching?!
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Peak Star Trek, that's what you're watching zoomer.
 
AllieKat said:
I just turned on Pluto and joined a TNG episode in the middle. I'm guessing it's early cause Tasha Yar is there but what the fuck is going on?!

Everyone is scantily clad in white clothes on what I can only describe as a fuck planet. Wesley is fumbling some baddie that clearly wants to fuck and some orb just knocked out Data on the bridge...what the fuck amI watching?!
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Sounds like S1 Justice.
 
AllieKat said:
I just turned on Pluto and joined a TNG episode in the middle. I'm guessing it's early cause Tasha Yar is there but what the fuck is going on?!

Everyone is scantily clad in white clothes on what I can only describe as a fuck planet. Wesley is fumbling some baddie that clearly wants to fuck and some orb just knocked out Data on the bridge...what the fuck am I watching?!
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You're watching the episode where a crew of highly-skilled and experienced officers are outwitted by Gene Roddenberry's self-insert character.

I'm sorry, I just described the entirety of Season 1.
 
UnKillShredDur said:
He literally could have just waited and used his advanced future knowledge to save his people, possibly even give them an advantage if he was smart.
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time travel in general is insane, people routinely go back 200 years and nothing really changes enough for it to bother anyone. Meanwhile we all know you couldn't get away with such a stupid idea now, somehow social progress magically stayed the same from first contact to 350 years later with little change.

Even the concept of going back in time with modern tools and not changing anything is a retarded plot point. romulans should have conquered the known quadrant, who gives a fuck about their home planet.
Mystery Spy said:
The Orville is an unfortunate name for the franchise
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so is Star Trek, but 3 seasons and WoM is a motherfucker, its too bad Seth didn't think up a way to syndicate it to cable networks, that would have made more fans than anything else. his entire empire is built around the fact that syndication was cheap but led to huge merch opportunities and fans joining on when new episodes came out of his original shows.
Captain Syrup said:
Seth grew up in the 80's, he's not wired for that kind of optimism.
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that sounds like a joke, the decade most known for its optimism is the 1980s, to the point where its the go to setting for anything set in the past in the current year because they convinced everyone the 1950s sucked, but every other decade is shit because of the liberals policies ruining them and the 2000s are a downer because of the terrorism.

overall i wouldn't say the show is cynical either, if anything its more of a bridge, like Enterprise but for personalities, the characters grow into becoming the professional types you see being in charge of first rate ships like the Enterprise, they even say it in the pilot, the captain only got the job because they need someone to fill the position. you're seeing a lower ship captain becoming the piccard type little by little, same with the crew.
 
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