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Uhura can do mind melding now? What did I miss?

Re: Kim, Kim's a punching bag like Geordie kinda was, except that he was promoted. Red shirts get killed, yellow shirts get bullied.

Hey Johnny Bravo said:
There was a weird idea of male hotness in the early 90's. Kevin Bacon was the heartthrob lead in Tremors even though Fred Ward was clearly manlier.
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Maybe Karate Kid was to blame? Ralph Macchio was fine, but Zabka was in a whole different league, yet he was the "villain".
 
"Captain, why are you climbing the mountain?"
"To rip that gay shit down!"

I seriously can't see anything involving Yosemite any more without thinking about Trek 5...
 
I'd say the late 80s were the start of the attractive soft man phase. After decades of John Wayne and Clint Eastwood the ladies wanted something a little less over the top masculine so you got the more... I dunno less aggressive Male coming into prominence.

You had a young Scott Backula, Kevin Bacon, Christian Slater, Brad Pitt and Hugh Grant all peddling that less mucho more romantic, more thoughtful type of attractive male.

Of course this was also the decade of red leather pants, huge hair and full bush so I dunno the 80s were pretty weird.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
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This week on Star Trek: Who Gives a Fuck Anymore?: Patton Oswalt is a Vulcan, LSD is made canon and is still taken in 2261, and Primanti Brothers sandwiches are also canon. This is the episode where some of the crew turns into Vulcans and it's as bad as we expected. Luann turns into a caricature of a Romulan because why the fuck not?
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He looks like he just killed his human wife and told the authorities that if he could he would do it again because that would be logical.
 
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Sweeter and Savoury said:
I just never got why Shelby got all that hate in the fandom
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Shelby had three strikes already. First off, she’s a woman, nobody wants some bitch rolling up and making the boys feel like they’re getting castrated at the office. Strike two, she wasn’t just “doing her job,” she wanted Riker’s job. Contrast that with Jellico, Riker hated him, but at least you could tell Jellico wasn’t trying to be teacher’s pet. Strike three, the writers introduced her by making her an antagonist to Riker, which is a mistake. Same thing they did with Pulaski, “let’s make her be mean to Data". Great, you just permanently coded her as the heel.

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TaimuRadiu said:
They kept trying to make antagonistic authority figures in the series which is how we got Admiral Nachayev (sp) who honestly didn't do anything wrong, she was relaying orders from Starfleet Command.
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Par for the course with this type of show. Berman-era Trek was almost like JAG in space. Procedural comfort food. Go watch NCIS, Law & Order, or any one of those Agatha Christie type shows: the pattern is always the same.

The “core" team is a bunch of quirky good guys you’re supposed to love, and anyone from the outside (the FBI, Internal Affairs, Justice Department, Army brass) shows up twirling a mustache and obstructing the case like, “Heh heh, sorry McGruff, you can’t solve this murder until you file the right paperwork.”:blart: They’re always corrupt, always lying, always the roadblock.
LoogerLike said:
VOY was okay, definitely the weakest of good Star Trek by far, and the only thing about Voyager I actually cared about was the Doctor. EMH was my favorite little bastard on the show by far, other than him I didn't mind Neelix. Everyone else though? meeh?
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I like Tom Paris, but half of that is because he was the Kramer character. No defined job, no consistent arc, just wandering into frame every week with some new crackhead invention. For God’s sake, in "Spirit Folk" he literally rolls up in a jalopy like Toad of Toad Hall.
 
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Tasty Tatty said:
Uhura can do mind melding now?
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she ate spock's snatch or smth.

vulcanian males have vaginas k/s shippers decided this in the late 60s


According to Gerry, it is unnecessary for Kirk to reciprocate because the anal passage of a Vulcan lubricates automatically. As is pointed out in ALTERNATIVE 2, this implies that nature approves of Vulcan males being fucked even if Vulcans themselves don't. Vivienne Rivers provides Spock with the Vulcan attribute of a convenient automatically lubricating cock in "Those Who Favour Fire" (THE VOICE 2) [27]. This certainly would improve matters for anyone fucked by a Vulcan.
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no wonder roddenberry went out of his way in the novelization of TMP to make sure everyone knew k/s were not gay for each other they were in the service for a long while and had bonds relating to that
 
TaimuRadiu said:
she ate spock's snatch or smth.

vulcanian males have vaginas k/s shippers decided this in the late 60s





no wonder roddenberry went out of his way in the novelization of TMP to make sure everyone knew k/s were not gay for each other they were in the service for a long while and had bonds relating to that
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I regret reading every single word of this post, and hereby nominate you for a second pink triangle.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
No, they wanted Voyager's replicator technology.
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That's correct, it wasn’t the Kazon haggling for water, t'was Neelix.

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Uhh did he really need water? He was running a hustle on Voyager from the jump, double-crossing the Kazon so he could get his piece of ass back. That’s the pilot Neelix. Then, immediately after that, he's the lunch lady/furry morale officer? Where’s the dirtbag in the pimp jacket who was smoking and joking and scamming people for room service? They declawed him so fast he might as well have been nicknamed "Cookie".
 
Neelix knew he had a good thing doing with his loli waifu. Pedos sometimes can be really charming and "merge" with the people who are sure to make sure they have a good time and unlimited access to cunny.

What I'm saying is that Neelix was the Jimmy Saville of the Delta Quadrant.
 
Someone earlier mentioned that the original Connies really did not have a good run and boy he wasn't kidding.

I did a bit of digging and found;
  • USS Constellation- destroyed by the Planet Killer, lost with all hands
  • USS Defiant - stuck between dimensions due to a sub-space rip. The crew went insane and killed each other, lost with all hands.
  • USS Excalibur - destroyed by the M5 Master Computer on board the Enterprise during a test run, lost with all hands.
  • USS Hood - scrapped after engaging the Enterprise under the M5 computer after being so heavily damaged she was deem un-repairable. Written off with most of her crew dead in the battle.
  • USS Intrepid - lost with all hands, crew killed by the Space Amoeba creature. (one would assume that Star Fleet went and recovered the ship as it was intact but we never hear anything about it).
  • USS Lexington - engaged the Enterprise under M5 control, heavily damaged with all but 50 crew killed.
  • USS Potemkin - engaged the Enterprise while under M5 control, heavily damaged with over 200 crew killed.
  • USS Enterprise - Self Destructed above the Genesis Planet by Admiral Kirk after being stolen from SpaceDock by former Enterprise crew members for...reasons... and crippled by the Klingon Captain Kurge in battle; no casualties...well no Federation casualties.
(as a side note I always did wonder what our heroes did with the rest of the Klingon crew on Kurge's ship even that small BoP must of had more then the 6 crew we saw onscreen)

Yah the Connies sure did not have a good time but do note that 4 of the 8 were either destroyed outright or crippled by the Big E while it was under the control of the M5 master computer during the mock war games. That's 50% of the casualties right there

In case your not familiar with that episode the M5 controlled Big E used full power weapons against the other Connies who didn't have their shields up and still had their "training" weapons engaged so that didn't really work out well for them. But we do get to see how tough they are; despite take point blank full power phaser beam salvo to the face both the Lady Lexie and the Potemkin manage to survive and then come back to try to stop the now rampant M5 controlled Big E despite being crippled by the surprise attack.

While the other 2 were lost to massive, super dangerous unknown space creatures. And in Captains Decker defence he did what any good captain would do after the Planet Killer tore his ship apart in order to save his crew but how was he to know that thing could destroy whole planets. Even after he went a little nutsy he did still the needful at the cost of his own life to try to take it out for good. Got a give Decker props for going out like a boss even if it didn't work 100%.

Thinking about it the Connies did their jobs pretty well. 2 were lost to weird space shit, a expected job hazard when your exploring the galaxy. 1 was destroyed while in turn destroying a literal Planet Killer doomsday weapon, 2 more were lost to another Connie doing a surprise attack and one was self destructed to save it's crew. None of them went down to stupid things or poor design. All in all I say the Connies were well designed and well built ships that did their jobs. Exploring the unknowns of the galaxy is bound to be a very dangerous hobby after all and you can't expect nothing to go wrong.
 
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@Sweeter and Savoury

More than I thought. In one episode they say outright 12 Connies were built, idk if they said that all 12 were on 5 year missions.

Hilariously enough if you look closely you can see 1 or 2 Connies in the debris at Wolf 359. This makes sense since Constitution classes can be really kickass warships when they're unleashed. Have a video of one newly staffed by a bunch of Humans who had no idea what they were doing.

 
TaimuRadiu said:
@Sweeter and Savoury

More than I thought. In one episode they say outright 12 Connies were built, idk if they said that all 12 were on 5 year missions.

Hilariously enough if you look closely you can see 1 or 2 Connies in the debris at Wolf 359.
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I just looked up the destroyed ones not the total built. Grok said that 12 were built in TOS so your right. That's a 66% loss rate...yah I'd sure pass on being assigned to a Connie if I was in Starfleet.
 
Sweeter and Savoury said:
I just looked up the destroyed ones not the total built. Grok said that 12 were built in TOS so your right. That's a 66% loss rate...yah I'd sure pass on being assigned to a Connie if I was in Starfleet.
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It's the Starfleet, you have a 2 in 3 chance of dying a stupid death anyway.

Lower Decks was a realistic view of serving in the Federation Starfleet.

Mr. Racewar1488 said:
Imagine a Tellarite that looks like The Quartering making a dozen videos claiming that Federation DEI policies killed hundreds of Star Fleet officers and destroyed four Constitution-class cruisers.
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M5 was designed by a Negro, just leaving that there.
 
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