Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

Vic wouldn't have been so bad if the behr jew didn't force us to sit through entire renditions of 1950s/60s vegas music. Talk about tedious. He was great helping Nog, he was great helping Odo get out of his own way to get with Kira. That's all we needed. Throw in the Oceans 11 ripoff episode so they could repay his kindness and that's about all we had to see from him. Maybe a couple more episodes briefly talking to him or about him. We definitely did not need to spend 5 minutes every episode in season 7 stuck in his lounge watching him belt out complete song after song. Might have wanted to spend that time wrapping up plotlines and character development so the ending of the war didn't feel so rushed and truncated.

Period throwback holodeck episodes are great - in moderation. I don't want to see Picard strolling around 1940s New York dodging gangsters for the 19th time in a single season.
Another issue with Vic is that he served as the crew's emotional confidant... during the same season they had a counselor come on board for that exact purpose. As much as I love "It's Only a Paper Moon", that episode portrayed Ezri as a complete moron who couldn't help Nog through his trauma.
 
Louise Fletcher deserved a better ending
Fucking stupid to give her a halfway redemption arc and then backpedal with...whatever the hell they thought they were doing here.
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Her character worked best when she was more than just a shallow "evil religious lady" caricature and had some actual nuance and moments that showed she was sincere in her faith and love of Bajor even if she was still an asshole about it like when she started helping Sisko with his unga bunga religious shit or cooperated in diplomatic chicanery with regards to the Dominion.

Hell if they wanted to give her a good send off they should have given her the scene where some rando notch nose nun hangs herself in public to call out Kira for being a sellout for collaborating with the Dominion, just to really twist the knife as to how far she has fallen that even one of the slimy OG villains of the show was willing to step up....and then drop down, while Kira was chilling out in the Terek Nor country club with Dukat and friends eating mini quiches and quietly making bets on how long Weyoun takes before he realises he has been eating ketracel-fent laced tribble shit
 
But then the Dominon suddenly surrending because of deus ex Odo was very unsatifying
It was foreshadowed all the way back in the opening arc of season 6. The female Founder says she'd pull back every warship to the Gamma quadrant if it meant bringing Odo home to the Great Link. The affairds of solids are nothing compared to her own people. It makes perfect sense she'd drop everything and go to jail in exchange for Odo returning to the Great Link and saving their race.
 
Another issue with Vic is that he served as the crew's emotional confidant... during the same season they had a counselor come on board for that exact purpose. As much as I love "It's Only a Paper Moon", that episode portrayed Ezri as a complete moron who couldn't help Nog through his trauma.
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Ezri didn’t just whiff on Nog’s PTSD, she completely airballed Garak’s panic attacks too. She wasn’t “treating” anybody, she just happened to be around when Garak had his breakthrough on his own. Maybe they were trying to run back Counselor Troi because nothing makes Trek writers hard like doubling down on a shit idea.
 
Picard's rant in who watches the watchers was pretty fedora tippy. But it was still early on and by the end of TNG even they were not so 2005 about religion. Hell in DS9 Sisko scolded his son that he was no better than Winn just on the other side when he started making fun of the Bajorans for believing in their religion so seriously.
Worf is quite religious by Star Trek standards and Picard doesn't seem to mind much because Worf keeps it to himself most of the times. That's a thing they kinda "fixed" later. He does mind the irrationality that comes with certain religious thinking, as we saw in that episode (when they made him a God) and the one with that woman who claimed to have returned to a planet to be their god ("Devil's Due", I think it's called). Some of the people of that planet were fine with slaving themselves to someone who only showed them cheap tricks. Of course that Picard's sceptical mind was meant to try to debunk her claims. In WWtW, I'm sure he would have been less patronising if they didn't make him a deity and they were just already religious. Also, this is a situation they indirectly caused, doble reason to be mad.
 
He does mind the irrationality that comes with certain religious thinking, as we saw in that episode (when they made him a God) and the one with that woman who claimed to have returned to a planet to be their god ("Devil's Due", I think it's called).
I like Ardra. Apparently the writers thought she was too TOS coded and old-school, send her to the glue factory.

Something about Picard paramors just parking in his chair like the queen of England.

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I always got the impression that Meaney and Brooks thought of themselves as acteurs who were only stooping to the level of silly science fiction television for a temporary period.

I've always heard decent things about Meaney and that he only got the DS9 gig cause he was more-or-less easy to work with. He's been in some other stuff over the years but he doesn't strike me as taking himself too seriously.

Watch Alan Partridge (Alpha Papa in the UK but usually just called Alan Partridge in the US) Meaney plays a disgruntled radio DJ that takes the station hostage and its not at all serious. Alan Partridge is a comedy (or a series of comedies in the UK played by Steve Coogan) but they made a film back in 2009ish. Its a fun flick. Meaney doesn't distract from it, in fact he seems to have fun with it.

Maybe he was just not having fun with Trek after doing it for so many years?
 
Ezri didn’t just whiff on Nog’s PTSD, she completely airballed Garak’s panic attacks too. She wasn’t “treating” anybody, she just happened to be around when Garak had his breakthrough on his own. Maybe they were trying to run back Counselor Troi because nothing makes Trek writers hard like doubling down on a shit idea.
Bartenders are better shrinks than actual shrinks, qed.
 
she'd drop everything and go to jail in exchange for Odo returning to the Great Link and saving their race.
Once he cures the link they will all discover that Odo and the Federation nearly genocided them all. After that I don't know why they would respect the surrender and instead go bezerker on the whole Alpha quadrant.
Hell if they wanted to give her a good send off they should have given her the scene where some rando notch nose nun hangs herself in public to call out Kira for being a sellout for collaborating with the Dominion, just to really twist the knife as to how far she has fallen that even one of the slimy OG villains of the show was willing to step up....and then drop down, while Kira was chilling out in the Terek Nor country club with Dukat and friends eating mini quiches and quietly making bets on how long Weyoun takes before he realises he has been eating ketracel-fent laced tribble shit
Winn got absolutely no redemption or even an ending that proportional to the character. The shitty religious leader having a crises of faith gets incinerated, while Changeling Hitler gets Federation room and board. Much fedora tipping in the writers' room that day.
 
I like Ardra. Apparently the writers thought she was too TOS coded and old-school, send her to the glue factory.

Something about Picard paramors just parking in his chair like the queen of England.

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TOS coded?!? That hair and those shoulder pads could not be any more 80's... (I think that episode actually aired in the 90's though.) Regardless, I do not understand what they mean.
 
Maybe he was just not having fun with Trek after doing it for so many years?
I don’t really know a ton about this guy, but I get the sense he’s just one of those old-school actors where the fear of commitment outweighs the money. He had a film career during this, too.

He'd probably rather do that than sign a five-movie contract where his entire role is just standing around in space pajamas.

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The DS9 finale sucks ass.

It was OK up until Damar dies. But then the Dominon suddenly surrending because of deus ex Odo was very unsatifying. Martok was the only one who looked pleased that the war was won while Sisko and Admiral Cardboard mope around. Stopping cold for an entire 3.5 minute song from Vic Fontaine.

Then Dukat and the Pah Wraths at Temu Mount Doom. Sisko becoming a literal god while Dukat is in burning in literal hell for eternity. Louise Fletcher deserved a better ending. The corny dragged out flash backs at the end that forget Jadzia. Odo being a jackass to Quark and confirming he's a genocidal Dominion-lover at heart after all.

At least the Voyager finale had evil Admiral Janeway and no musical interludes.
This is a minor peeve but it bugs me every single time. That lazy flashback shows Worf reminiscing about that time he was on the Holodeck for "Our Man Bashir" .... Except he wasn't in control and did not have any memories of this happening. It bugs me every time I see it.
 
Lol I looked up the Indian tribe on Memory Beta and they don't show up anywhere else in any of the side materials. The only speculation is that since they were so lo tech they might have been spared by the Dominion. Slight aside I saw these in a stack of almost new condition laser discs at the thrift store today. I think my dad rented a laser disc player once to see what the quality was like (we didn't buy one).
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That was a error, the laser-disc is the best of the TOS movies. I guard mine with tripwires, mines and a very grumpy chihuahua and I really do love them. TMP in particular is awesome on laser-disc if you can find on of the real movie print ones. The laser-disc versions often had movie prints rather then the home video edits and thus are worth it if you can find them and a working player. I bought them when they first came out (because I am a guy and any new tech is a must buy before food or shelter) and got lucky to snap up the 3 movie set that came out and which is super sought after by real Trekkies as it's a direct 1 to 1 movie print copy set.

Seriously, if you can grab them up if they're still in good condition just for the rarity and keepsake value. Plus...come one giant ass CD's. How can you knot want that?
 
That was a error, the laser-disc is the best of the TOS movies. I guard mine with tripwires, mines and a very grumpy chihuahua and I really do love them. TMP in particular is awesome on laser-disc if you can find on of the real movie print ones. The laser-disc versions often had movie prints rather then the home video edits and thus are worth it if you can find them and a working player. I bought them when they first came out (because I am a guy and any new tech is a must buy before food or shelter) and got lucky to snap up the 3 movie set that came out and which is super sought after by real Trekkies as it's a direct 1 to 1 movie print copy set.

Seriously, if you can grab them up if they're still in good condition just for the rarity and keepsake value. Plus...come one giant ass CD's. How can you knot want that?
Have you ever seen the Starship Troopers OVA? As far as I know the only version available online was ripped from a laserdisc and later upscaled. It's interesting as the quality didn't seem all that much better than VHS. I will admit those covers and packaging are really cool, way better than any packaging since.

Here's the Starship Troopers OVA on Internet Archive if you're interested.
 
the quality didn't seem all that much better than VHS
it isn't
I have an LD unit
they're great if you're a weeb in the 80s and 90s because it was the dominant format for purchase in Japan, but the video quality really isn't _that_ dramatic
there's some LDs that are downright shit, like the CBS/FOX ones like the grey stripe vhs packaging
I had that version of They Live, buddy had Rocky Horror, it was basically the same as the VHS run through CLV (the extended play version of LD, some signal loss)
 
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