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UnKillFill said:
And finally, the episode where Captain Picard becomes everything he hates most in the galaxy.
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It was actually a much better episode than I remembered despite the beyond stupid premise.
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It's an alright episode save for that bit where Keiko expects intimacy with O'Brien who is having the very reasonable reaction of "Fuck no!"
 
UnKillFill said:
And finally, the episode where Captain Picard becomes everything he hates most in the galaxy.
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It was actually a much better episode than I remembered despite the beyond stupid premise.
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This squirt pulls off a halfway decent Picard, which already makes him better than Hardy’s.

Patrick Stewart has one of the most instantly recognizable faces in acting history. Let’s stop casting people as young Stewart or clone Stewart or Stewart’s illegitimate son from space France.
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
Need to give the TNG writers credit on the language as they did their homework first before and during their writing the script for the episode. As the language in the episode was based on in real life language(s). As found out ten-twenty plus years ago by a rando blogger who for had look into this.
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I've missed this in all the talk about the episode. I would like to know more.

UnKillFill said:
And finally, the episode where Captain Picard becomes everything he hates most in the galaxy.
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He turned into his own nephew.
 
Flexo said:
I've missed this in all the talk about the episode. I would like to know more.
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I wish I could help you on this, as I barely remember anything of the blog post as I read it ages ago. Paraphrasing and very likely am wrong here. Other than to an outsider it makes no sense as they wouldn't know the history and context of what is being referred to. Once Picard grasp how the language worked, he was able to roughly communicate with them.
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
I wish I could help you on this, as I barely remember anything of the blog post as I read it ages ago. Paraphrasing and very likely am wrong here. Other than to an outsider it makes no sense as they wouldn't know the history and context of what is being referred to. Once Picard grasp how the language worked, he was able to roughly communicate with them.
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Yeah, in "Darmok" you’ve got this whole alien race that only speaks in quasi-Klingon memes from 2000 years ago.

Every sentence is a historical allegory and the Enterprise rolls up completely unprepared, no Rosetta Stone in the Starfleet databases, no prep....And of course there’s the ticking clock, because in Star Trek you’re not allowed to just say “we'll circle back to it.” And Picard, after just panicking, realizes he can start dropping Homer and Beowulf references, to talk these aliens into understanding him.

And this scene is good because you actually see the alien start to vibe with it, and by the end Picard’s amped, he’s puffing his chest, “Gilgamesh at Uruk!"

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I mean in a lot of ways Darmok is peak trek. Finding some new life that seems so drastically different from us, but as we work together, we find out we have a lot more in common than we thought.

If anyone was to ask me to sum up all of Trek in one single scene (or at least the best of trek) it would be that fireside scene.

But for fun to ruin the moment.
 
I like it with the universal translator "translating" the language, everyone on the Enterprise still had no clue what was being said. Until Picard got the gist of it later.
 
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Captain Syrup said:
Patrick Stewart has one of the most instantly recognizable faces in acting history. Let’s stop casting people as young Stewart or clone Stewart or Stewart’s illegitimate son from space France.
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They literally invented CGI deaging technology to get around having someone else play young Professor X in X-Men 3 (and then fucked it up a few years later by recasting him in the prequels).
 
UnKillFill said:
It was actually a much better episode than I remembered despite the beyond stupid premise.
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Isn't that the one where Worf loses a fight with a Ferengi, allowing ~3 of them to take over the ship? I think that was rock-bottom for him. Worse than being paralyzed.
 
Ro's plot in Rascals was nice and wholesome, it's a pity it wasn't explored more. The episode could have done better without the ferengi plot and have them running out of time with some other stuff. Or get some other race doing the kidnapping.
 
Calandrino said:
Isn't that the one where Worf loses a fight with a Ferengi, allowing ~3 of them to take over the ship? I think that was rock-bottom for him. Worse than being paralyzed.
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Worse than all of his friends getting together to watch holo-Klingons taze Worf's nipples? It's a close call!
 
Pedophobe said:
They literally invented CGI deaging technology to get around having someone else play young Professor X in X-Men 3 (and then fucked it up a few years later by recasting him in the prequels).
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Yeah but they at least replaced him with Maud'dib so it was fitting.

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Worse than all of his friends getting together to watch holo-Klingons taze Worf's nipples? It's a close call!
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Yeah, because that was established as the Klingon equivalent of a bat Mizpah and he was supposed to have friends watch him get tazed. All Klingons do it.
 
Flexo said:
He turned into his own nephew.
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They also gave the role of his TV son to his real life son. Zero rizz. Negative rizz.
Tasty Tatty said:
Ro's plot in Rascals was nice and wholesome, it's a pity it wasn't explored more.
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At least they let Ro pinball around the crew a little. She had chemistry with basically everyone, too bad she bounced after that.
 
Captain Syrup said:
Every sentence is a historical allegory and the Enterprise rolls up completely unprepared, no Rosetta Stone in the Starfleet databases, no prep....And of course there’s the ticking clock, because in Star Trek you’re not allowed to just say “we'll circle back to it.”
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It's even worse when you remember this wasn't Starfleet's first encounter with them. The Enterprise was the 8th ship to meet the Tamarians in the last hundred years, and they still had absolutely no files or historical records.
 
Ultraman Orb Dark said:
It's even worse when you remember this wasn't Starfleet's first encounter with them. The Enterprise was the 8th ship to meet the Tamarians in the last hundred years, and they still had absolutely no files or historical records.
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Well nowadays we know that's because the Federation Wikipedia considered all data on them from "unreliable sources."
 
Flexo said:
Yeah, because that was established as the Klingon equivalent of a bat Mizpah and he was supposed to have friends watch him get tazed. All Klingons do it.
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Poor Worf, even parties in his honor are about Worf-ing him.
 
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