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My favorite part of Insurrection was easily when Worf shows up and tries to explain what the hell he's doing in this movie while he's supposed to be on DS9, and the movie just doesn't give a shit. It cut's away mid explanation and mutes him because nobody actually cares *why* he's here we're just happy to see him... Until the Klingon puberty shit that is.
 
My favorite part of Insurrection was easily when Worf shows up and tries to explain what the hell he's doing in this movie while he's supposed to be on DS9, and the movie just doesn't give a shit. It cut's away mid explanation and mutes him because nobody actually cares *why* he's here we're just happy to see him... Until the Klingon puberty shit that is.
Well, apparently, they wanted to do some lines about Jadzia having been murderised and other happenings on DS9, but Berman shot that down. It would have confused the audience, Rick thought. Okay, but it was more confusing to see this shitfest the first time and having Worf on the Enterprise with zero explanation. His appearence in First Contact made much more sense, but here? lol.
 
The planet was likely empty when they got there, they built the society we see there, so it's their planet and it doesn't belong to anyone else just because their resources are demanded for others. The Sona guys are welcome to return as long as they accept their rules, which they didn't. It's not to protect them because of how their life is, it's because they just don't want anyone there. Tasha's home planet is fucked up and they still follow through not going there. It's all the opposite of communism: they respect right of association.
By the same token, it is the B'aku's responsibility to defend themselves if someone decides to remove them. That they chose to make themselves powerless to their own rebel children is no one's fault but their own.
 
The thing I don't get is, the planet is huge and practically unpopulated aside from the B'aku. The federation had a big observation station that could cloak watching them. Why not build a cloaked medical facility on the opposite side? What are the B'aku going to do? Walk across the entire planet and protest? Aside from First Contact the TNG movies sucked.
 
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nobody actually cares *why* he's here we're just happy to see him... Until the Klingon puberty shit that is.
Insurrection is summed up by the scene where Picard randomly starts doing the mambo in what’s supposed to be a suspenseful plot twist, because he MUST be… aging backwards? That wouldn’t have been my first conclusion.

Also they never really clarified whether the weird space ring energy was supposed to slow aging or literally make you younger. Thanks for the exposition, Deanna, really missed these wine-mom scenes of you and Beverly gossiping about your sagging tits and menopause.

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Insurrection can be summed up by the scene where Picard randomly starts doing the mambo in what’s supposed to be a suspenseful plot twist, because he MUST be… aging backwards? That wouldn’t have been my first conclusion.

Also they never really clarified whether the weird space ring energy was supposed to slow aging or literally make you younger. Thanks for the exposition, Deanna, really missed these wine-mom scenes of you and Beverly gossiping about your sagging tits and menopause.

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Not that we care about such things in this day and age...
 
Insurrection can be summed up by the scene where Picard randomly starts doing the mambo in what’s supposed to be a suspenseful plot twist, because he MUST be… aging backwards? That wouldn’t have been my first conclusion.

Also they never really clarified whether the weird space ring energy was supposed to slow aging or literally make you younger. Thanks for the exposition, Deanna, really missed these wine-mom scenes of you and Beverly gossiping about your sagging tits and menopause.

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He is programmed in multiple techniques, after all.
 
By the same token, it is the B'aku's responsibility to defend themselves if someone decides to remove them. That they chose to make themselves powerless to their own rebel children is no one's fault but their own.
Sure, maybe if the Sona had decided to do that without the federation, but as soon as the federation was part of it, the Enterprise had to be part of it as well.

There is some precedent. In "Ensign Ro", the admiral was secretly meeting with the Bajoran rebels, bringing Starfleet into the conflict with the Cardassians. Picard could have said "not my mission, not my problem", except they had to solve it in the same way they had to solve the Baku conflict because Data was what brought them there, making it their problem now.

In theory, they could have gone straight to Starfleet HQ and tell the high command what they were trying to do, but they didn't have time because the Sona was already attacking. The whole thing with them going younger was dumb, but they did have a lot of justification for intervening. Ain't hte first time the crew has done stuff like this in TNG canon.
 
Wait I thought the planet's healing effects weren't permanent unless you stayed on the planet. That's why the Sona want to collect the radiation and make the treatments portable. Honestly while the movie is a pretty bad longer episode of TNG it's still not as bad a Nemesis.

Funniest part:
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Unintentionally funny part, mainly due to late 90's CGI:
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Sure, maybe if the Sona had decided to do that without the federation, but as soon as the federation was part of it, the Enterprise had to be part of it as well.

There is some precedent. In "Ensign Ro", the admiral was secretly meeting with the Bajoran rebels, bringing Starfleet into the conflict with the Cardassians. Picard could have said "not my mission, not my problem", except they had to solve it in the same way they had to solve the Baku conflict because Data was what brought them there, making it their problem now.

In theory, they could have gone straight to Starfleet HQ and tell the high command what they were trying to do, but they didn't have time because the Sona was already attacking. The whole thing with them going younger was dumb, but they did have a lot of justification for intervening. Ain't hte first time the crew has done stuff like this in TNG canon.
And, as Dougherty put it, "I am acting under orders from the Federation Council."
 
Wait I thought the planet's healing effects weren't permanent unless you stayed on the planet. That's why the Sona want to collect the radiation and make the treatments portable. Honestly while the movie is a pretty bad longer episode of TNG it's still not as bad a Nemesis.

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Unintentionally funny part, mainly due to late 90's CGI:
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I think you may be at least partially right, I vaguely remember Geordi having implants again in Nemesis... but like... if your arm gets blown off, and it grows back on the planet... (Or to a lesser extent, you were dying from a more mundane wound and the planet stabilizes and heals your life threatening injury) does your arm just fall off again the second you leave the planet?



Also, did the Federation just create changeling AIDS?
 
Seeing Dukat and Weyoun reimagined as sinister trenchcoat cops is one of those moments that’s so chilling it borders on genius. They're easily my favorite part of FBTS.
It's a crime that the final showdown between Sisko and Dukat didn't take place in the flashback world with a wild-orange-eyed Dukat chasing Sisko in a flaming police car (and maybe the Klan or something I dunno), while Sisko desperately tries to break into wherever he kept his manuscript so he can re-write the story to either alter Dukat's character arc or erase him entirely.

Or something. They chose to just plain not use the framing device they'd established for Based Schizo Benjamin Sisko in the perfect place for it.
 
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I think you may be at least partially right, I vaguely remember Geordi having implants again in Nemesis... but like... if your arm gets blown off, and it grows back on the planet... (Or to a lesser extent, you were dying from a more mundane wound and the planet stabilizes and heals your life threatening injury) does your arm just fall off again the second you leave the planet?



Also, did the Federation just create changeling AIDS?
It does imply the B'aku planet radiation was really just drugs. Once you're off the planet, it stops having an effect and it can't be synthesized. I would say it's on-brand, but it doesn't feel intentional enough for that.
 
Yes. RIP to that one changeling that linked with Odo (which Kira implied was kinda gay—underrated moment) and presumably died of GRIDS offscreen.
Yeah, it was gay as hell. Lol. What were they trying to say?

And that changeling was General Martok too.




Side note: Zek just made Rom the new Nagus, and then seemed confused about which son he made the Nagus again...

Senile old ruler, being puppeted by his wife does something political for his retarded son and then seems confused about it... Where have I seen this one before?
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Yes. RIP to that one changeling that linked with Odo (which Kira implied was kinda gay—underrated moment) and presumably died of GRIDS offscreen.
The writers didn’t even realize Laas had Odo’s virus. Fans had to tell them. Their response was basically “oh, uh… yeah, guess he did. Oops.”

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I feel like in the 24th century every aspiring female leader is gonna model herself after Nechayev, the same way every bad bitch PM tries to ape Thatcher, and the results are gonna be just as catastrophic.

Lets face it though, if the Federation had a Thatcher during the Dominion War it would have ended in half the time, she would have bootstrapped a useable Navy out of civilian ships and the Falklands Bajor never would have fallen.

I don't think the Star Wars *movies* were ever that great to begin with. The best part of Star Wars has always been the universe itself and the external media around it (especially video games, but also certain books that will never be made into movies...) and those still seem to be pretty good.

So I am absolutely unfamiliar with Star Trek games, is there anything that comes up to KOTOR 1 and 2 in terms of being worth playing? Not meaning to sound disparaging, just those are the two really great Star Wars game I can think of.
 
Lets face it though, if the Federation had a Thatcher during the Dominion War it would have ended in half the time, she would have bootstrapped a useable Navy out of civilian ships and the Falklands Bajor never would have fallen.
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"We will not be held hostage by the dilithium miners! The Federation must tighten its belt!"

She’d sell Deep Space Nine to the Bank of Bolias for, like, one gold-pressed latinum.
 
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