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Dragged Into Sunlight said:
The future is fat, brown, and retarded. We're so fucked.
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I'm not sure which is worse - the pointless callback to voyager or the fact a fat brown engineer of all things ate a fucking combadge

Remember when they made a point of mentioning how difficult it was to actually get into the academy in tng let along graduate? and this retard somehow manages to eat her combadge? How does that even happen exactly? Was it wrapped in foil and she thought it was chocolate? Isn't that what homer simpson did when the mayor gave him the key to the city?
 
Captain Syrup said:
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I haven’t read the interview or whatever, but I know he’s Sudanese royalty or some crazy thing. Also, he was very keen on having no ethnic markers on the show. I didn’t realize he was an Arab, I just assumed he was some toff who fell asleep on a tanning bed.
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Hes mixed Sudanese-British and his family tree reads like fanfiction.

As far as Allah goes, the Bajoran gods literally exist so its the most religion-friendly iteration of Trem by a huge margin.
 
Krokodil Overdose said:
Hes mixed Sudanese-British and his family tree reads like fanfiction.

As far as Allah goes, the Bajoran gods literally exist so its the most religion-friendly iteration of Trem by a huge margin.
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I mean they are not really gods though they can be killed by renigging a space station deflector. They are just aliens that live outside of time and have a weirdo fixation with bajorans. Q are far more powerful than the wormhole aliens. They can molest time like they do but they also have bags of other tricks that the wormhole aliens couldn't even dream of, and yet even they are presented as clearly not gods, just powerful beings.
 
WonderWino said:
Remember when they made a point of mentioning how difficult it was to actually get into the academy in tng let along graduate?
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Starfleet's been fucked since '09, if not earlier. They want to make the officers normal dudes, like relatable or some shit. Trip fixed swamp boats, that’s his training. Yeah, literally with a giant fan in the back. That’s supposed to get him ready to run a warp core. Phlox was originally going to be vet on his home planet, he wasn't even legally allowed to work on people. Somehow he conned his way onto the NX-01.

Not that I’m defending Starfleet Academy, I know for a fact Kurtzman wouldn’t want to serve on a real ship with any of these crayon eaters. And his interviews where he describes the Starfleet crew as "misfits" falls flat because he's always defending his shows before they even premiere.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
Mike and Rich just mentioned in their DS9 video that the there is a new (npi) generation of young people, specifically mentioned reactors, who were watching old movies and they've been watching the Trek movies, and for that, they had first to watch the shows. They said that there are new people, young people, interested on Trek, but they are choosing the old stuff. They felt a bit hopeful.
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They talked about it like it is a new thing, but I had suggestions for popular DS9 clips/compilations 5+ years ago. DS9's character moments and interactions work well in short segments. It had a resurgence as the pragmatic Star Trek around that time too.

Related to their review, I'm glad the writers didn't or weren't allowed to make Garak openly gay. It makes no sense for early season Garak to come out while also lying and concealing his intentions from the other characters. Late season Garak coming out mid destruction of his species would be jarring "Im borderline suicidal over the death of everything I stood for. Also do you know Im gay?". The strong undertones work, for all we know Garak is testing Bashir to see if he can extract information for Cardassia.
 
likeacrackado said:
Related to their review, I'm glad the writers didn't or weren't allowed to make Garak openly gay. It makes no sense for early season Garak to come out while also lying and concealing his intentions from the other characters. Late season Garak coming out mid destruction of his species would be jarring "Im borderline suicidal over the death of everything I stood for. Also do you know Im gay?". The strong undertones work, for all we know Garak is testing Bashir to see if he can extract information for Cardassia
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Garak was written brilliantly. Everything was a lie except when it wasn't. You don't need to ruin that kino by making him gay. He simply is. Besides he got with Dukat's daughter if I recall, and I thought that worked
 
Academy also shows one of the many problems with New Star Trek, that has been replicated across various entries in the New Star Trek franchise, the bridges on these ships on newer shows are huge with stations and crew way too far apart. The original series' Enterprise bridge was efficiently designed, any crew member could reach any other's station in a few steps, orders could be given across the bridge at conversational-level volume, and the main viewscreen wasn't huge but also located seemingly yards away.

Besides being pointlessly large, these New Star Trek bridges have a lot of unnecessary lighting, more akin to a nightclub than a Starfleet vessel. It's just one sign of a franchise where the worst ideas and design philosophies and dialogue get repeated throughout every new show.
 
Commander X said:
Academy also shows one of the many problems with New Star Trek, that has been replicated across various entries in the New Star Trek franchise, the bridges on these ships on newer shows are huge with stations and crew way too far apart. The original series' Enterprise bridge was efficiently designed, any crew member could reach any other's station in a few steps, orders could be given across the bridge at conversational-level volume, and the main viewscreen wasn't huge but also located seemingly yards away.

Besides being pointlessly large, these New Star Trek bridges have a lot of unnecessary lighting, more akin to a nightclub than a Starfleet vessel. It's just one sign of a franchise where the worst ideas and design philosophies and dialogue get repeated throughout every new show.
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The bridges on these new ships are bigger than Ops on DS9 and that's a massive station. Like why? Do they need all that extra space for lens flare?
 
Standardized Profile said:
It's not fanfiction that his uncle killed Jim Kirk 😠
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I love that the 24th century Khan is like... a social worker. :story: “I don’t wanna turn these dudes into nukes, I wanna get them jobs.”

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It's not exciting but it's Star Trek. Every other director is like, “What if Khan blew up Starfleet HQ,” or "Spock shows emotion!" EVERY emotion! ALL AT ONCE! SPOCK I AM ASKING YOU NOT TO BE A PSYCHOPATH FOR FIVE MINUTES.

And it's still more interesting than that cheap ENT move where some random Augment decides he was born evil.

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WelperHelper99 said:
Garak was written brilliantly. Everything was a lie except when it wasn't. You don't need to ruin that kino by making him gay. He simply is. Besides he got with Dukat's daughter if I recall, and I thought that worked
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Garak is gay.... for CARDASSIA! :semperfidelis:

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His relationship with Ziyal is just, “Please God let one person not hate me,” and when she dies Garak’s sitting there like, “Why did she even like me?” He’s a knife made by a bad man for bad reasons. If Kurtzman were honest, Starfleet Intelligence would just be Garak types.
 
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Holy balls this dried up dyke sounds like she's giving a TED talk. I never saw any of her episodes in Disco and hopefully never will.
 
Clown College 2nd Year said:
Lol but how? She can't act for shit in this clip, and I've never seen any of her stand up but she seems like she wouldn't be funny under any circumstance.
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That clip you posted is how she acts in everything she's ever been in. She's friends with Sarah Silverman and Amy Schumer so her connections get her roles. She might have been funny 20+ years ago but now she coasts on her connections.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
That clip you posted is how she acts in everything she's ever been in. She's friends with Sarah Silverman and Amy Schumer so her connections get her roles. She might have been funny 20+ years ago but now she coasts on her connections.
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Oh God.. The only thing I really saw her in is Army of the Dead. It was all shit but she stood out as especially incompetent. I know she was like digitally added to replace whoever screwed up and got fired mid shoot, but jeez.
 
likeacrackado said:
Related to their review, I'm glad the writers didn't or weren't allowed to make Garak openly gay. It makes no sense for early season Garak to come out while also lying and concealing his intentions from the other characters. Late season Garak coming out mid destruction of his species would be jarring "Im borderline suicidal over the death of everything I stood for. Also do you know Im gay?". The strong undertones work, for all we know Garak is testing Bashir to see if he can extract information for Cardassia
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True. To me, Garak might have thought that Bashir was gay, so he acted that way when they first met.
Ira Steven Behr is a good writer but he needed to be tard-wrangled, this was probably Michael Piller's toughest job on DS9, lol.
As for RLM, Rich got so triggered by Bashir's behavior in the first season, it's ridiculous. They don't get that Bashir is a young doctor from the big city, he has never been near the frontier, he thinks that every women will fall in love with him and he's about to find out that life out there is quite different than the safe space of the Federation. I think Razorfist is right, DS9 feels like Deadwood in space (which is funny because the actor who played Buck Bokai also played Wu in Deadwood).
 
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likeacrackado said:
They talked about it like it is a new thing, but I had suggestions for popular DS9 clips/compilations 5+ years ago. DS9's character moments and interactions work well in short segments. It had a resurgence as the pragmatic Star Trek around that time too.
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They talked about it, but they meant also reactors who are now watching ST media. That's a relatively new thing. So far, I know of two big channels doing Star Trek: Newbies (super woke) and Target Audience (only moderate progressives)

Xev said:
The bridges on these new ships are bigger than Ops on DS9 and that's a massive station. Like why? Do they need all that extra space for lens flare?
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