Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[WelperHelper99]

As for RLM, Rich got so triggered by Bashir's behavior in the first season, it's ridiculous. They don't get that Bashir is a young doctor from the big city, he has never been near the frontier, he thinks that every women will fall in love with him and he's about to find out that life out there is quite different than the safe space of the Federation. I think Razorfist is right, DS9 feels like Deadwood in space (which is funny because the actor who played Buck Bokai also played Wu in Deadwood

I never saw RLM before that, but first impressions, Rich is kinda a pussy

 

[Captain Syrup]

As for RLM, Rich got so triggered by Bashir's behavior in the first season, it's ridiculous.

Maybe you had to be there? Back in the day every man on TV was a huge creep but like in a Dancin' Fool kinda way, he'd go “hubba hubba" and cue the laugh track.

Furthermore, people act like DS9 was edgy, but Julian striking out constantly was proof to me that it's still a family show. No pussy in space unless you sign a lease together. And the second two characters hook up, they immediately start arguing about moving in.

 

[Nice Stick]

It's the 32nd fucking century, why are people still in fucking wheelchairs!?

They have the technology to heal him, but they don't. Healing him would be ablest and imply that there's something wrong with being in a wheelchair.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

They have the technology to heal him, but they don't. Healing him would be ablest and imply that there's something wrong with being in a wheelchair.

FIRST STEP!!!

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

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Seriously.

I love the smell of cope.

Besides he got with Dukat's daughter if I recall, and I thought that worked

I'm surprised Garak never rubbed that in Dukat's face.

Holy balls this dried up dyke sounds like she's giving a TED talk. I never saw any of her episodes in Disco and hopefully never will.
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Why are they having class in the same room the Jedi Council uses for meetings?

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

DS9 feels like Deadwood in space

There's a channel that's been putting Soprano characters into TNG, now I need to see Quark replaced with Al.

 

[Standardized Profile]

I love the smell of cope.

I'm surprised Garak never rubbed that in Dukat's face.

Why are they having class in the same room the Jedi Council uses for meetings?

Something something circle implies everyone is equal.

Holy balls this dried up dyke sounds like she's giving a TED talk. I never saw any of her episodes in Disco and hopefully never will.
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I've seen less than five minutes of this show and I hate the instructors more than the idiot cadets. The cadets are clownish but they're supposed to grow over the course of the series; the instructors should be foils to the cadets' childish qualities, they shouldn't reflect or amplify them. Do they ever show any insight into the human condition or higher ideals than "be open to the people around you, you fucking idiot?"

 

[The Mighty Banth]

Not a huge trek fan though iIgrew up watching the first two, but I love practical effects.

Star Trek has often had to do a lot with a little ddue to budget and time constraints but still created timeless designs that had character, variety, and often a genuine sense of alien anatomy.

Even the ferengi, while ugly by human standards, has balance and a sense of real anatomy behind the design, like the exaggerated ears could enhance hearing like a bat's while also giving the species an initially negative response to the viewer, a hook for both the actors and the writers to explore, reinforce, and subverting.



What does this make up tell you about the species? Vulcan make up was almost human because they were the entry point for aliens and humanity's sponsor and guide (and it was cheap and quick).

Is it reptilian? Aquatic? Carnivor? Lives off brain waves? It just looks like a black woman with lazy scale appliances they didn't even bother to use to alter her facial anatomy. They didn't even commit to the scales are really give them character.



It's like a lazy entry on Face Off.

 

[WonderWino]

There's a channel that's been putting Soprano characters into TNG, now I need to see Quark replaced with Al.

I can see it now, upon finding out nog has signed up for the academy and looking into where he'd be going to school, quark turns around, throws a glass at buck bokai and yells out san francisco cock suckers

They talked about it like it is a new thing, but I had suggestions for popular DS9 clips/compilations 5+ years ago. DS9's character moments and interactions work well in short segments. It had a resurgence as the pragmatic Star Trek around that time too.

Related to their review, I'm glad the writers didn't or weren't allowed to make Garak openly gay. It makes no sense for early season Garak to come out while also lying and concealing his intentions from the other characters. Late season Garak coming out mid destruction of his species would be jarring "Im borderline suicidal over the death of everything I stood for. Also do you know Im gay?". The strong undertones work, for all we know Garak is testing Bashir to see if he can extract information for Cardassia.

The whole idea that garak is somehow gay has always been complete and utter nonsense. He was involved in a relationship with dukats daughter on screen and in a book robinson himself wrote using notes he himself came up with during production as background to work with, the real reason he was exiled was because of his involvement with a married woman, who's husband he refused to kill despite being told to by tain, so tain basically said fuck you you're a failure and had him exiled. Totally something a gay guy would do to get his ass permanently exiled from his homeworld

and that isn't even getting into the whole bashir isn't gay either and was obsessed with every woman who gave him the time of day. He was basically the geordi of ds9, except less of a loser outside his technical field

True. To me, Garak might have thought that Bashir was gay, so he acted that way when they first met.
Ira Steven Behr is a good writer but he needed to be tard-wrangled, this was probably Michael Piller's toughest job on DS9, lol.

The problem with this idea is garak is exceptionally good at reading people. Its what he does. He's not incompetent enough to mistake the stations number one horndog, who is practically trying to hump jadzias leg at every opportunity, as gay. It would be astoundingly out of character

 

[Captain Syrup]

He's not incompetent enough to mistake the stations number one horndog, who is practically trying to hump jadzias leg at every opportunity, as gay. It would be astoundingly out of character

Garak was zooted out of his mind on Cardassian poppers or whatever.

Maybe he was just cruising for information, but that’s the thing, Garak doesn’t even really try to extract intel from him. He just wants to share lunch and maybe slowly poison his worldview. It's very much a case of "grooming," if not in the sexual sense.

Why are they having class in the same room the Jedi Council uses for meetings?

The sets have been dogshit since Abrams took over. Every room is the size of an aircraft hangar and the lights are always turned down because they don't want you to notice the bad acting to look "prestige".

Then the action starts and suddenly it’s teal-and-orange god rays blasted into your retinas. It’s not even that it’s formulaic or boring. This is obnoxious. This is a hack who figured out two tricks and thinks that makes him Spielberg.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Also, dark-skinned people do not benefit from dark lighting. It makes them harder to see when it's very important that we see the stars of the show. Now, sure, Voyager came up for diegetic reasons to have dark lighting, but that's not the reason for these shows.

 

[teriyakiburns]

The bridges on these new ships are bigger than Ops on DS9 and that's a massive station. Like why? Do they need all that extra space for lens flare?

All the sets are huge. On strange new worlds, the transporter room is absolutely enormous and Pike's cabin looks like it takes up the same floor space as Ten Forward. As far as I can tell, they do it so they can have more "dynamic" shots and dolly the camera around a lot. I've noticed they use movement to mask poor cinematography. I suspect there's also a bit of a prestige thing going on, as well as flexing about how huge the budget is. All the sets are bigger than the sets on TNG.

 

[NSA]

I'm not sure which is worse - the pointless callback to voyager or the fact a fat brown engineer of all things ate a fucking combadge

Remember when they made a point of mentioning how difficult it was to actually get into the academy in tng let along graduate? and this retard somehow manages to eat her combadge? How does that even happen exactly? Was it wrapped in foil and she thought it was chocolate? Isn't that what homer simpson did when the mayor gave him the key to the city?

If they had to have this dumb comedy scene, they could make it work if the cadet was some sort of weird alien, like a Horta. I could see a Horta accidentally eating pretty much anything, they snack on rocks. It's frustrating how little effort it would take to fix the problems in modern Trek, but no one cares.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

“90210 in space” was never going to work,

I think the core idea going back to the 90s of "they're at starfleet academy, primetime soap drama happens with star trek outfits" was a pretty reasonable thing to want to try in the heyday of the 90210s

Makes me admire Locarno even more. An Academy show around Robert Duncan McNeil about Red Squad trying to climb that officer ladder could have worked. TNG-era cadets were these neurotic Type-A overachieving types like Locarno or Lavell. That's plenty of interpersonal conflict to be had there. Now, instead of characters that are law/med school equivalents, we have undergraduates in Current Year Academy.

yeah the concept could have legs for even something classy and trek

clearly not gods

just like islam

If they had to have this dumb comedy scene, they could make it work if the cadet was some sort of weird alien, like a Horta. I could see a Horta accidentally eating pretty much anything, they snack on rocks. It's frustrating how little effort it would take to fix the problems in modern Trek, but no one cares.

that would have been a great way to do the joke, and a horta as a background joke character is really a good idea in general with modern cheap effects
even occasionally have a gag shot of above-the-table view of a bunch of crew rushing to something, then a second of nothing visible but horta moving noises, then more crew

 

[Captain Syrup]

If they had to have this dumb comedy scene, they could make it work if the cadet was some sort of weird alien, like a Horta. I could see a Horta accidentally eating pretty much anything

It’s just not a good look to have the cadets constantly gnawing on their communicators like they’ve all got pica, and then you’ve got the doctor popping in with this exhausted “again?” like this is a routine issue at the academy.

It's some kind of attempt at Hogwarts or James Gunn humor except it comes off as almost self-hating, "yes this show is good but also shit!"

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

MY COMM BADGE WAS DELICIOUS

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

This is Kurtzman's final fuck you to the fans

Fuck you for not loving my shit
Fuck you for not watching my shit
Fuck you for not believing in my shit
Fuck you for telling me I'm shit

He's slashing and burning on his way out.

 

[Miller]

There's a channel that's been putting Soprano characters into TNG, now I need to see Quark replaced with Al.

"Rom! The Grand Nagus is here, open a can of peaches!"

 

[Clown College 2nd Year]

This is Kurtzman's final fuck you to the fans

Fuck you for not loving my shit
Fuck you for not watching my shit
Fuck you for not believing in my shit
Fuck you for telling me I'm shit

He's slashing and burning on his way out.

I really don't get this mindset, is this just modern progressivism mindrot, a pure and unfettered hatred for everything of the past? Is this some jewish hatred of the western white man's achievements, practically ingrained in their DNA at this point? Are they just really sad, sad little nepo people that just didn't grow up?

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

The fat black jem'hadar should've been a pakled.