Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Lurkerish Kandor]

I started watching DS9 like 2 weeks ago, haven't watched a Trek series since renting VHSes was still a thing. I'm about halfway thru Season 2 now.

Favorite thing so far was the Season 1 episode where Nog and Jake go full happy merchant and do a commodity trading sidequest, swapping trade goods until they end up selling land to some government. Honestly I was kinda pissed that B-plot didn't really get wrapped up, I was looking forward to a scene where Quark goes and gets Nog after a night in the cells - Odo thinking he's taught Nog a lesson - only for Quark to tell his nephew he's proud of him for being the most Jewish space goblin to ever Jew in space. But no, Quark gets in on their scheme, and in the same moment that plotline is just forgotten so the episode can end 2 minutes later.

Also, I was looking forward to watching the RLM video out of the serendipity that I'd just been watching the show, and man I was disappointed. Didn't really know what to expect, but it was more than them giving plot summaries.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

- Odo thinking he's taught Nog a lesson - only for Quark to tell his nephew he's proud of him for being the most Jewish space goblin to ever Jew in space. But no, Quark gets in on their scheme, and in the same moment that plotline is just forgotten so the episode can end 2 minutes later.

That plotline was tied up with Quark making the sale to the person wanting that particular piece plot of land. The episode writers were assuming the viewers can put 2 and 2 together for the end result of plotline. Instead of needing to literally spell everything out for them, which will have cut into time for the main plotline of the episode.

 

[William Murderface]

That plotline was tied up with Quark making the sale to the person wanting that particular piece plot of land. The episode writers were assuming the viewers can put 2 and 2 together for the end result of plotline. Instead of needing to literally spell everything out for them, which will have cut into time for the main plotline of the episode.

I tend to think the reliance on having A & B plotlines in most episode is because of the problem of making the shows into ensemble projects instead of just having the Captain and two major subordinates tackle the main problem of the week and then use the recurring roles as needed. Once the writers decided during TNG that they had all these actors so they better do something with them every week instead of just using them as needed, It's not to say that the B plots couldn't be entertaining, but if the A plot can't be a big enough problem to fill 40 minutes of airtime, it probably isn't strong enough to build an episode around.

 

[Lurkerish Kandor]

That plotline was tied up with Quark making the sale to the person

I must have blinked and missed it - the last I saw was the kids going to Quark and him clicking to the fact they're "NoJake", and then nothing else. It was just A-Plot from there on out.

the viewers can put 2 and 2 together for the end result

Would you be surprised to learn I prefer an onscreen conclusion to a plot I liked in a visual medium?

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Batman isn’t preachy. Meanwhile the Doctor’s like, “No guns!"

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It’s always that bullshit. Sometimes they’ll have some alien go, “Doctor… you’re full of shit.” But that's it. It’s like adult TV which also wants to scold kids.

At this rate, the next Doctor will pull a Michael Dukakis and drive a tank in one episode.

Mixed race couples got really popular in the 32nd century?

I think Discovery had a character with human, Bajoran, and Cardassian ancestry.

Klingons get around? How better to defeat your enemies than to make them family.

Careful. Neelix learned firsthand how dangerous Klingon snu-snu is.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

I must have blinked and missed it - the last I saw was the kids going to Quark and him clicking to the fact they're "NoJake", and then nothing else.

It could've been done better or worse

It was just A-Plot from there on out.

I honestly don't even remember what the A-plot for that episode was.

Would you be surprised to learn I prefer an onscreen conclusion to a plot I liked in a visual medium?

I do agree with you on this and apparently lot of other people at the time did do When the second time Jake and Nog done this, many of the issues were addressed including have the shown conclusion.

 

[Lurkerish Kandor]

I honestly don't even remember what the A-plot for that episode was

I couldn't remember the A-Plot either: it was the one where Kira has to convince the old farmer and his mute family to leave the moon they lived on, so it could be tapped for energy. Which surprised me, because I enjoyed the characters and the dialogue of that one, but I guess it tire-spun for too long and the ending was obvious enough that it just didn't stick.

second time Jake and Nog done this

Yeah, someone did at least tell me there's more episodes that focus on them doing more trade stuff, which is nice. Reminds me of old 90s and 00s cartoons where kid characters actually got up to interesting shit, instead of being living macguffins, or just fucking annoying.

 

[Cactuar King]

Careful. Neelix learned firsthand how dangerous Klingon snu-snu is.

And in Tuvok's bed no less.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

And in Tuvok's bed no less.

It's canon that Vulcans have a far superior sense of smell than humans, so just imagine his face when he walked in and got a face full of Klingon quim musk mixed with Talaxian nut.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

I'm surprised Section 31 never learned about that.

Well, there is a strong possibility: Sisko is a S31 agent.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

I started watching DS9 like 2 weeks ago, haven't watched a Trek series since renting VHSes was still a thing. I'm about halfway thru Season 2 now.

Favorite thing so far was the Season 1 episode where Nog and Jake go full happy merchant and do a commodity trading sidequest, swapping trade goods until they end up selling land to some government. Honestly I was kinda pissed that B-plot didn't really get wrapped up, I was looking forward to a scene where Quark goes and gets Nog after a night in the cells - Odo thinking he's taught Nog a lesson - only for Quark to tell his nephew he's proud of him for being the most Jewish space goblin to ever Jew in space. But no, Quark gets in on their scheme, and in the same moment that plotline is just forgotten so the episode can end 2 minutes later.

Also, I was looking forward to watching the RLM video out of the serendipity that I'd just been watching the show, and man I was disappointed. Didn't really know what to expect, but it was more than them giving plot summaries.

They reference the self-sealing stembolts and yamak sauce multiple times later in the series.

 

[Captain Syrup]

They reference the self-sealing stembolts and yamak sauce multiple times later in the series.

You can see why Quark and his family are not exactly Nagus material. Every season he’s like, “Okay this is the one, the Federation’s finally gonna eat shit," and he’s punished with like twelve pallets of yamok sauce. Just a warehouse full of space ketchup nobody wants.

 

[Xev]

They just scratched the surface of navigating the great material continuum in that episode. There is another one in a later season you will love as well.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

They just scratched the surface of navigating the great material continuum in that episode. There is another one in a later season you will love as well.

Morn's John Galt-style monologue about the supremacy of capitalism is one of the best 10 minutes of television from 90s.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

They just scratched the surface of navigating the great material continuum in that episode. There is another one in a later season you will love as well.

The one with Nog lending away Sisko's desk to get parts to get different parts to finally get something they need for the Defiant? Yeah, that's a great one.

 

[AnOminous]

Batman isn’t preachy.

He might be if he talked a lot. He generally speaks through actions, mostly violent ones.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

The one with Nog lending away Sisko's desk to get parts to get different parts to finally get something they need for the Defiant? Yeah, that's a great one.

I think I read something that said a book had Nog take the Kobayashi Maru and broke the simulation by immediately surrendering and trying to bargain with the Klingons.

 

[Screamer_2]

Is the hologram character actually autistic in the show or is that just people making a joke because of how stupid she looks?

Also why does a compute program need to go to college and attend physical education classes?

 

[Chilson]

Is the hologram character actually autistic in the show or is that just people making a joke because of how stupid she looks?

Also why does a compute program need to go to college and attend physical education classes?

Because the people writing this are retarded and should have probably been euthanized at birth. Its the answer to all modern nu-trek decisions.

 

[Captain Syrup]

I think I read something that said a book had Nog take the Kobayashi Maru and broke the simulation by immediately surrendering and trying to bargain with the Klingons.

Ten episodes per season of big eared Jew aliens was maddening but sometimes it's worth it, like that one where Garak flips his shit playing a Cardassian board game, because the game is, “Be aggressive. Make bold moves." and Nog’s just sitting there holding onto his pieces (maybe they’ll accrue value!).