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The paradise the Talaxians are winning to fight and die for and Janeway allows Neelix to break the prime directive for is a hollowed out asteroid. Brilliant writing. Also abandoned his God daughter and Voyager for the first piece of Talaxian tail he meets. Come to think of it, where the fuck did they come from? Voyager is hundreds of years away from Talaxia af this point.
 
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Also abandoned his God daughter and Voyager for the first piece of Talaxian tail he meets. Come to think of it, where the fuck did they come from? Voyager is hundreds of years away from Talaxia af this point.
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Friend, this is the same season where VOY just happens to bump into a ship hauling, what, like a hundred Klingons from the opposite end of the galaxy, who are apparently just bumming around the Delta Quadrant looking for a half-Klingon baby. And wouldn’t you know it, they coincidentally run straight into the one Federation ship in existence that is carrying B’Elanna’s kid. Really makes you feel the vastness of space.:suffering:

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Obligatory image of the Klingon thot.
 
They put a camera in his visor so they could find out the Enterprise's shield frequency.
NOt even the first time this happened to Geordi, IICR. No wonder he got those implants as soon as he could.

It was explained right in the middle, a "hilarious" comedy moment of Lursa and B'etor watching Geordi ggo about his day after he was rescued.
"The only engineer that doesn't go to engineering". We laughed at this in the theater, come on.
 
"The only engineer that doesn't go to engineering". We laughed at this in the theater, come on.
When you’re a kid watching TNG on TNT at like midnight, even then you’re like, “Why the fuck is Geordi on the bridge?”

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He doesn't have a chair, but at least he's closer to Worf now. Why? Response time? To what? He left engineering, took a turbolift, waited for the doors to whoosh open, just to stand at the engineer station.

Tactical is just Worf standing there like an iPad kid. Riker can technically vault over and take his place. But there is no auxiliary engineer to take over the station.

VOY did the same shit. B’Elanna’s always on the bridge during red alerts.

I guess at some point the writers got tired of cutting back and forth, and also they’d heard one too many comics doing the “I’M GIVIN’ HER ALL SHE’S GOT, CAPTAIN” bit.
 
Going back to another "time alteration" episode:

In "Tapestry", Picard changes his past to avoid getting stabbed and fitted with an artificial heart, but as a result of his lack of motivation, he ends up as a low-grade officer doing menial tasks well into his middle age. Just like in "Yesterday's Enterprise", the setting is the same for the sake of familiarity, and to drive home the fact that Picard is still on the Enterprise, but it's no longer his ship.

I would have taken it one step further and given him an even more boring job.

In Star Trek III: The Search For Spock, Uhura hijacks the transporter pad at Earth Spacedock while having to deal with a young officer who complains about working at what he calls "the hind end of space". This is where the boring loser Picard should have ended up; the Starfleet equivalent of a gas station attendant.
 
Going back to another "time alteration" episode:

In "Tapestry", Picard changes his past to avoid getting stabbed and fitted with an artificial heart, but as a result of his lack of motivation, he ends up as a low-grade officer doing menial tasks well into his middle age. Just like in "Yesterday's Enterprise", the setting is the same for the sake of familiarity,
I barely remember "Tapestry" beyond the broad strokes, but yeah, isn’t the whole gag that in Q’s timeline, Picard’s the guy who scans comets on the Enterprise?

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(Will Riker is still not the captain which is kind of a big middle finger to Riker.):story:

It is weird that this French guy would still be on the Federation flagship, but this is a funhouse mirror Q world full of cruel jokes in his expense.

Overall it’s a good episode, though I’ll never fully buy young Picard as this bar-brawling, pussy-crushing legend. Your past self always has to be the exact opposite of your present self on TV.

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You just know that the writer was patting himself on the back for that one. They had absolutely zero idea what Klingons were like apart from the ‘warrior race’ trope so they thought they were so clever in choosing birdwatching of all things.

Doesn’t matter to them that they had years worth of shows/movies/multimedia that showed how varied Klingon culture really was. Hell, their biggest cultural export in the show is opera of all things!
"Surely you didn't think all Klingons were soldiers?"
 
I'm surprised it's not the other fat retard who's not trying to eat pebbles.

Why is this thing so weird and socially inept? The Doctor wasn't, the community of hologram people from early DS9 weren't, so why is this one such a sped?
DEI lowered the collective IQ of federation holograms to retard levels over the last thousand years.
 
Why is this thing so weird and socially inept? The Doctor wasn't,
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I was with you until you said the Doctor wasn’t a sped. He was based on a real sped who moved to Jupiter so he wouldn’t have to deal with non-holograms anymore. They didn’t retire the EMH because he failed medically. They retired him because patients wanted to punch him every time he talked.
Happy Sunday my fellow Kiwi Trekkers!!!
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I was with you until you said the Doctor wasn’t a sped. He was based on a real sped who moved to Jupiter so he wouldn’t have to deal with non-holograms anymore. They didn’t retire the EMH because he failed medically. They retired him because patients wanted to punch him every time he talked.
Oh, he had no bedside manner and was grating, sure, and his basis was an antisocial asshole, but he wasn't trying to eat gravel or whatever the fatass is licking. If I have the choice between the asshole doc and Fat-Retard-Who-Tries-to-Eat-Things-You-Shouldn't-Eat (Black Edition), I'm choosing the first one because I trust him not to try and snack on my gall bladder.
 
I was with you until you said the Doctor wasn’t a sped. He was based on a real sped who moved to Jupiter so he wouldn’t have to deal with non-holograms anymore. They didn’t retire the EMH because he failed medically. They retired him because patients wanted to punch him every time he talked.
And somehow, Andy Dick is considered an upgrade.
 
I was with you until you said the Doctor wasn’t a sped. He was based on a real sped who moved to Jupiter so he wouldn’t have to deal with non-holograms anymore. They didn’t retire the EMH because he failed medically. They retired him because patients wanted to punch him every time he talked.
The Doctor's whole arc was making him less of an antisocial sped. Picardo seems fine on his own in this new show, but it's all at the service of the most revolting, insufferable Millennial writing.
 
New Trek tries to be more of an action film or a teenage drama, which may work in drawing in younger people, but it alienates the older fans who, like it or not, still carry the potential success or failure of this franchise. Those older fans are still the ones who cherish the older material and may stick around, hoping, things pick up or a crumb is tossed their way. Executives mistake this as being in support of the directions they want to take the series, and thus a vicious cycle begins.

That said, people forget the older series had some kooky or flat out cringe episodes and moments. Star Trek: The Next Generation, excluding a few episodes, is said to have an agonizing first two seasons to plow through to get to "the good stuff". Maybe these new series need time to find their footing, so I give some leeway here. I'm not really expecting much because what makes Star Trek for me isn't flashy space battles (though they can be fun) or fantastic makeup, it is the ability to stand around and talk...

In my opinion, some of the best scenes in Star Trek are when the cast talk - with each other or to their foes. New Trek can look as glossy as it wants to, cater to a younger demographic, but it seems to almost always fail when it comes to what - again, in my opinion - makes Star Trek: conversation. Not just random dialogue, but actual conversation. New Trek is either not capable of providing stimulating conversation or it doesn't think most of the audience wants that. The first shows a lack of talent, the second shows a lack of respect.

I'm not a science major but the shows, at least the "older" ones, did not talk down to me or expect me to accept casual lingo. When I try to watch New Trek, I feel like the showrunners believe me to be too stupid or too apathetic to care about the quality they're shoveling.

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