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Captain Syrup said:
The Tilly thing is crazy though. They advertised her like she was a co-lead. Now they're saying her role is extremely "limited.” Holly Hunter just showed up out of nowhere and now she’s carrying the entire thing? Maybe she was a last-minute hire?
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Tilly's actress was fat, got on Ozempic, and is now ashamed of ever being fat because the healthy at any size bullshit is over. They were setting Tilly up to be important in Star Trek: Quality Learing Academy in STD but I suspect Paul Giamatti got Helen Hunt involved so he'd have someone who knew how to act to play off of.
 
Captain Syrup said:
I smell bowling alley carpet from 1998.:story:

It would be more accurate if your NPC partner kept walking into your line of fire.

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There needs to be an episode where a firefight between the alien of the week fights the Away Team and Tuvok just stands 5 feet away from his comrades, looks around blankly and walks away. It really sells it when he takes the logical approach to combat
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
I suspect Paul Giamatti got Helen Hunt involved
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"Get me the lady from Twister" "Sir, that's another woman with the name HH"

I’m honestly a little sad they didn’t wheel out Helen Hunt. It would be apt since Paul Reiser was immortalized in Aliens.
 
Remember that opening scene to Star Trek VI? The explosion of Praxis was very 2D, so why didn't Excelsior just go up or down to dodge?

:thinking:
 
On the topics of games... a star trek Knights of the old republic style game would work pretty well. I can't see it happening since dragon age killed that genre for the next half decade. Still having it structured as each mission being on an alien planet with an away team would work. You could even make a "diplomatic " route where you never or almost never been to fight anything.

Sadly trek is a dead IP and that genre more or less is obliterated atm. Least till like horror an indie dev shows it's still insanely popular when executed compently.
 
Gromit the Claymation Dog said:
I disagree, I don’t think Star Trek is dead right now. I think things would be a lot less sad if it was though.
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I wouldn't call it alive... undead I guess would be a middle ground. No one is looking at modern trek and thinking " man I can make an amazing game from this" I've not watched new trek. Closest I've gotten are redlettermedia reviews. From what little I know I can't fathom what a game based on any of them would look or play like.

Would you play as captain Picard and meander around the galaxy vaguely looking for data as everyone's disgusted by what an incompetent failure you are?

Would you play as the overly emotional rage vulcan from discovery kicking of galaxy spanning wars till you time travel to undo your disastrous fuck ups?

I don't even know how to describe the plot of section 31... I guess you would go around eating people as the mirror world emperor?

Lower decks... maybe you could do something there... a Simpsons hit and run open world game on the ship? I don't hate the series but like most cartoon comedies it doesn't really lend itself to long form stories.

I don't know how you would market new trek products to people. All the characters in the new series are unlikable and ugly. Lower decks is the exception but it's just the poor man's Rick and Morty.
 
Whiskey said:
You could even make a "diplomatic " route where you never or almost never been to fight anything.
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This has always been a problem for Trek video games. Since so many game genres depend on action, combat tends to get highlighted.

There's exceptions of course, the old Star Trek 25th Anniversary and TNG: A Final Unity point and click adventures from the 90's (still both enjoyable games) come to mind. As does the more recent Telltale-like Star Trek: Resurgence, which is essentially a TNG-style choose your own adventure story that involves almost no combat (I also enjoyed this "game", despite its many flaws). Resurgence was priced reasonably for what it was, and did pretty well I think, so maybe there's some hope for similar games.

Sadly, however, I don't think we'll ever see a proper Trek RPG like your describing. The IP isn't dead, but it's suffered some pretty bad wounds since STD started hacking away with a machete. The audience just isn't big enough to justify the dev effort.

Whiskey said:
From what little I know I can't fathom what a game based on any of them would look or play like.
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Resurgence is a good example as to how this can work. It's essentially a Voyager era story, with a unique ship and crew. It ignores the last decade of vandalism and just lets you enjoy some classic Star Trek adventuring.
 
Phillip Green said:
Resurgence is a good example as to how this can work. It's essentially a Voyager era story, with a unique ship and crew. It ignores the last decade of vandalism and just lets you enjoy some classic Star Trek adventuring.
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That is the issue though... it's a Voyager era story. While fans want that ds9 or enterprise you won't get that.

You will get them licensing discovery or Picard.... Resurgence exists because it's a small studio. Same with the stalleris offshore. For a big budget game I'm sure they would insist on "modern" trek.
 
Whiskey said:
You will get them licensing discovery or Picard.... Resurgence exists because it's a small studio. Same with the stalleris offshore. For a big budget game I'm sure they would insist on "modern" trek.
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Possibly, and my biggest fear with any new AAA Trek game would be Paramount pushing the Nutrek crap, like they did a decade ago with JJTrek and the shitty console games.

However, the rumors are that Nutrek licensing is essentially non-existent, and the money people at the studio know this. Kurtzman finally, after dozens of Doomcock cockteases, appears to be on his way out, so Paramount is unlikely to be seeking to redeem his works.

All of the officially licensed video games in the last 5 years have been TNG-DS9-Voy based. The fact that none of these have been major studio releases are more likely to be related to Trek's status as a wounded IP than anything else.

There haven't been any major studio Trek game releases since the early 2000s. The reason is game studios think the audience isn't big enough to justify the dev cost. They're probably not wrong.
 
Fatsuit Shinji said:
It's less "would" and more will as already seen with Star Trek Online.
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STO isn't an AAA game, though. And it hasn't been close to being AAA since its original "Atari" publisher it launched under collapsed back in 2011. I mean, to be honest it's barely a game at all at this point. It's mainly a whale farm. (I say as I complete my 500th consecutive daily endeavor as a free-to-play player.)

The devs are just hungry for any new "Trek" content that they can sell to Redditors as part of the latest monthly $180 package. That and I think they've gotten promotional deals with Paramount to push the Nutrek garbage.

Truth is though, that none of the Star Trek games released in the last 20 years was a major studio release. It's been a niche IP since Enterprise went off the air.
 
Is From Sawdust to Stardust: The Biography of DeForest Kelley worth buying or are there better books on Deforest Kelly out there? I don't mind buying it ($24 on Amazon), but i do mind if the information inside is made up or wrong.
 
Sawdust to Stardust was ghostwriten after Kelly's death so while its a collected series of anecdotes from his interviews and his personal journal so I wouldn't say it's super accurate. But again which autobiography is? Most are either ego trips or the author trying to rewrite thier history.

I found it an interesting and fun read. Kelly's a likeable sort and he lead an interesting life if your into Hollywood stuff.
 
Sweeter and Savoury said:
Sawdust to Stardust was ghostwriten after Kelly's death so while its a collected series of anecdotes from his interviews and his personal journal so I wouldn't say it's super accurate. But again which autobiography is? Most are either ego trips or the author trying to rewrite thier history.

I found it an interesting and fun read. Kelly's a likeable sort and he lead an interesting life if your into Hollywood stuff.
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I figured it was not 100% accurate, but as long as it is at t least 50% accurate I will give it a shot plus it seems like a fun read. I will find out when it comes in Monday (according to Amazon).
 
Curzon Dax-sama said:
What I want is a game like X4 set in the Star Trek universe where you can start in the TOS and TNG-era, depending on where you sit.
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There's Star Trek: Infinite but it got mostly negative reviews.

Xev said:
Speaking of Tilly, where is her fat, ginger ass at? Shouldn't she be teaching at this retard academy?
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The actress took Ozempic and lost a few ranks in the progressive stack.
 
Mr. Racewar1488 said:
Tilly's actress was fat, got on Ozempic, and is now ashamed of ever being fat because the healthy at any size bullshit is over. They were setting Tilly up to be important in Star Trek: Quality Learing Academy in STD but I suspect Paul Giamatti got Helen Hunt involved so he'd have someone who knew how to act to play off of.
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They probably freaked when she lost weight because they can't ignore it nor explain it without looking "offensive" to certain groups of people.

Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo said:
I'd like to expand on the analogy.

Star Trek isn't dead. It has Alzheimer: You can barely recognize it. It doesn't remember the kind of show it used to be. It's always angry all the time.
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And sometimes it has a couple of moments of lucidity that make people think it's back when it's just some flashes of what it used to be. E.g. Picard S3.
 
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