Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[m1ddl3m4rch]

I liked the dinosaur episode.

Yeah that was a neat two-parter. The judge dinolady's throne was later reused as Queen Arachnia's throne, I think.

If I were writing for that show we'd use stuff like the dinoguy's phasing bracelets. Voyager had so much tech that they explain how they scanned it and exactly how it works and then forget about it for the rest of the series. Maybe they could've thrown a few in the replicator, and used those instead of the Hansen's IGNORE US YOU CAN'T SEE US LALALA field emitters they use when they raid Borg ships.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

iirc JRD was one of the only dudes in the main LOTR gang who refused to get matching tattoos per the directors commentary on the superlong dvd of the first one

 

[Xev]

I'm going off topic for a sec because nostalgia. For the longest time I used to want a Sliders reboot but I know the industry would fuck it up pandering to the modern audience. I'm scared for whatever Amazon is planning for that Stargate show.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Movies, TV, Video games, my man was everywhere. Bond movies, Indiana Jones, the Batman cartoon, Animaniacs, the Wing Commander games. Basically anything where you needed a budget Brian Blessed. I'm kind of shocked his only Trek appearance was on Voyager.

My younger brother is autistic, and he's got a special interest in celebrities/voice actors from cartoons. Surprisingly, he's never mentioned JRD, yet he knows who David Ogden Stiers is.

I'm going off topic for a sec because nostalgia. For the longest time I used to want a Sliders reboot but I know the industry would fuck it up pandering to the modern audience.

There'd probably be at least one right-wing hellscape world, or a world ruled by Vtubers or something stupid like that.

I'm scared for whatever Amazon is planning for that Stargate show.

I heard the story will involve the program going public.

 

[Platonic Ideal]

the face or hair for that charisma

You can actually genuinely see Kenneth Marshall's rapid male pattern baldness progression from his debut to his final episode lmao

But yeah I agree with most of the opinions in this thread. Eddington was a cool idea to explore, a professional officer who defects for the greater good, but he kind of comes off as more of a drama queen and glory hound that's constantly getting mogged by Based Sisko

 

[Post Reply]

The actor does not have the face or hair for that charisma, and for some reason no one running the show ever got that.

I thought Eddington's character was supposed to be Thomas Riker but that plan fell through so Riker only got that one episode. He would have at least checked the boxes for face and hair.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

I'm onto Enterprise, well into s2 and I dont understand where the hate comes from. I like the episodic format of a fledgling Star Fleet meeting well known things for the first time and dealing with lower technology. It's been fun. Yeah, there's some dumb shit like the UV room and T'pol but it's better than Voyager's early season and I would say even a bit better than later Voyager.

Black Harry Kim was annoying and obviously shoehorned in for Diversity.
OG Trek fans know when they're being patronised and they don't like it.

 

[Captain Syrup]

You can actually genuinely see Kenneth Marshall's rapid male pattern baldness progression from his debut to his final episode lmao

But yeah I agree with most of the opinions in this thread. Eddington was a cool idea to explore, a professional officer who defects for the greater good, but he kind of comes off as more of a drama queen and glory hound that's constantly getting mogged by Based Sisko

Part of it is just the actor going full community-theater. But they could’ve cast literally anyone else. It wouldn’t have changed things one iota. The Maquis were always the Federation’s bratty kids.

Ro Laren defects, but I remain stunned she enlisted in the first place. It’s like enrolling in West Point because you hate authority. Cal Hudson had a relationship with Sisko, but the the show seems to forget about him after he switches sides. Thomas Riker joins the Maquis because he thinks, Finally a rebellion where I can be the hot one!



Wesley siding with the Maquis is the least surprising thing in the world once you realize Ron Moore wrote “Journey’s End.” The Federation fucking sucks, actually

Chakotay? Same general wavelength as Ro.



The Maquis were a one-way ticket for a bunch of “separatists" to split off without ever actually being a seismic event for Starfleet.

 

[Calandrino]

For the longest time I used to want a Sliders reboot but I know the industry would fuck it up pandering to the modern audience.

The industry already fucked Sliders up pandering to the 90s audience

 

[Captain Syrup]

Assimilation is a goddamn spa next to spiderwasp world.

 

[One_True_Yuri]

I kinda wish that Trek acknowledged the interesting tech advancements we see in one off episodes. Like when Barkley was possessed and fused with the ship using the holodeck as a way to interface and sent them to the galaxy core. That episode alone couldve radically changed FTL and Star Fleet's computer systems or even gave Voyager a faster way home.

Or that one 29th Century borg drone that was accidently created from the Mobile Emitter and 7 of 9's nanites

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

I honestly had no idea

I had no idea she was the granddaughter of Bing Crosby either but so many things about her career now suddenly make complete sense.

I kinda wish that Trek acknowledged the interesting tech advancements we see in one off episodes. Like when Barkley was possessed and fused with the ship using the holodeck as a way to interface and sent them to the galaxy core. That episode alone couldve radically changed FTL and Star Fleet's computer systems or even gave Voyager a faster way home.

Or that one 29th Century borg drone that was accidently created from the Mobile Emitter and 7 of 9's nanites

Everything jn Star Trek falls apart with any amount of scrutiny but it's fun to complain about. So many episode conflicts would be solved by just having 20th century security cameras, but apparently any sort of video recording is rare in the 23rd century.

Watching S2E1, this is high up there on the scale of horrific shit that would permanently traumatize a crewman if it happened in reality, in company with O'brien spending 20 years in jail.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

I kinda wish that Trek acknowledged the interesting tech advancements we see in one off episodes. Like when Barkley was possessed and fused with the ship using the holodeck as a way to interface and sent them to the galaxy core. That episode alone couldve radically changed FTL and Star Fleet's computer systems or even gave Voyager a faster way home.

Or that one 29th Century borg drone that was accidently created from the Mobile Emitter and 7 of 9's nanites

Everything jn Star Trek falls apart with any amount of scrutiny but it's fun to complain about. So many episode conflicts would be solved by just having 20th century security cameras, but apparently any sort of video recording is rare in the 23rd century.

Watching S2E1, this is high up there on the scale of horrific shit that would permanently traumatize a crewman if it happened in reality, in company with O'brien spending 20 years in jail.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

I kinda wish that Trek acknowledged the interesting tech advancements we see in one off episodes. Like when Barkley was possessed and fused with the ship using the holodeck as a way to interface and sent them to the galaxy core. That episode alone couldve radically changed FTL and Star Fleet's computer systems or even gave Voyager a faster way home.

In its defense, 1. speech-making Picard and Federation ideals would be opposed to demeaning a human by making a human – starship computer hybrid, and 2. they had no control over that process. A sophisticated alien probe took over Barclay and the records of the hybridization were too sophisticated to retain or implement, same with the insta-warp he created.

Or that one 29th Century borg drone that was accidently created from the Mobile Emitter and 7 of 9's nanites

Seven very touchingly mothered that drone. It was good that the plot of the week resolved the moral dilemma having a 29th century technology yet retardedly naive Borg drone self-sacrifice. I still just wish they'd slap on the dinosaurs phasing braces. Or not refuse cloaking technology as policy.

 

[Whiskey]

In its defense, 1. speech-making Picard and Federation ideals would be opposed to demeaning a human by making a human – starship computer hybrid, and 2. they had no control over that process. A sophisticated alien probe took over Barclay and the records of the hybridization were too sophisticated to retain or implement, same with the insta-warp he created.

To second this... having that kind of ability really destroys a lot of star trek plots. The magic mushroom machine wasn't a strong point of discovery I'm told.

If you can just instantly move anywhere at anytime for nearly no cost there isn't really a problem you can't solve. That or the stakes have to constantly require entire fleets to be able to handle it.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Species 8472 (AKA Undines) are sorta like the Prtoss-Zerg hybrids of StarCraft. They even look like Protoss, but with Zerg traits.

Starcraft - Dark Origin (Duran Speech, Protoss Theme 1)

- AwesomeRepix

 

[Rabo 2: Electric Boogaloo]

So finally giving Enterprise a third try.
I'm already surprised how much I'm just enjoying it now, even tho I've seen all the first season. I just, I guess I've seen so much shit, Enterprise is certainly a lot more palpable now.

 

[Captain Syrup]

So finally giving Enterprise a third try.
I'm already surprised how much I'm just enjoying it now, even tho I've seen all the first season. I just, I guess I've seen so much shit, Enterprise is certainly a lot more palpable now.

To get some historical perspective, I think Enterprise is the exact moment where being a Trek fan started feeling like a chore.

Stargate Atlantis has more plot holes than you can shake a stick at, but at least the cast sounds like they drank coffee that morning. Enterprise feels like everyone signed a five-year contract they regret.

 

[One_True_Yuri]

In defense of Enterprise, the episodes that involved the Sphere Builders, Xindi, Mirror Verse and the Temporal Cold war were very entertaining. But a lot of the rest of it felt like they were trying to hard to lay scaffolding for the weird silliness of TOS.

Its still better than anything released today but that can be said about anything back then.

 

[Captain Syrup]

In defense of Enterprise, the episodes that involved the Sphere Builders, Xindi, Mirror Verse and the Temporal Cold war were very entertaining. But a lot of the rest of it felt like they were trying to hard to lay scaffolding for the weird silliness of TOS.

It was always this weird tightrope walk. And it’s telling that people mostly remember the Xindi stuff. I didn’t grow up watching The Original Series. But the TOS references in The Next Generation or Deep Space Nine land because those shows aren’t embarrassed by their inheritance.

They probably also missed the window. The Anaxar/Excelsior middle ground between Kirk and Picard. The bright sixties optimism was gone by '01. That's probably why we never got Archer’s big presidential address in the way people imagined it.