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Jack of All Trades
I don't remember much of the show but do remember thinking it was mean spirited with awful characters, especially after watching Brisco County Jr where Campbell can actually use his charm and charisma to play a very likable hero. Plus Dixie Cousins way hotter than whoever the brit slag is.

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For the Trekkies getting tired of the Babylon 5 posting, Bester has some good news about the thread:
Perhaps we can have a discussion about another underappreciated sci-fi show from the 90s and 2000s and how what was considered so-so in the 90s and early 2000s now looks like fucking Shakespeare next to the garbage being fed to us these days.

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I have a hard time deciding if Avery Brooks is a really shitty actor, or a really good actor. Am I alone?
 
The D&D stuff on Babylon 5 mostly sucks, I like "Grail", though. That’s the good shit. I love when British guys act serious in sci-fi.

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In "Avalon" Marcus starts doing a Medieval Times impression to talk Michael York down. He’s so funny. Then G'kar immediately starts buying in. He just loves the pageantry. :story:

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I will say, the League members all look distinct. No Star Trek "rubber forehead zigzag."

The Narn actors look like they’re in physical pain though. I guess it adds to the realism. There’s that big freedom speech and I swear you can see his brow furrow through the prosthetics. That’s good rubber acting.

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G'Kar is hands down my favorite B5 character, Andreas Katsulas was an amazing actor, one of the most talented I've ever seen.
Oh, Star Trek thread, right...I also wished his TNG character, Tomalak had shown up in more than 4 episodes too. Nice that they brought him back for the finale at least.
 
That is part of why I personally do not consider "NuTrek" as real ST.
There are episodes of real Star Trek that we don't consider Star Trek. Nothing exists past Enterprise but tales told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. And S3 Picard.

I was going to ask this question, but then I realized I'm forced to admit that Rafi is a better love interest for Seven than Chakotay. Still they really need a Chad character for Seven to pose next to in a bikini.

Picard Seasons 1 and 2 was just Picard Season 3 emerging from a retard-singularity which bent and distorted spacetime into retarded fragments. That crazy Romulan woman playing her tarot triominoes in Season 1 foreshadows the crazy quilt of senseless bullshit to follow. I feel this confirms my theory. Picard S3 emerged from a plotline distorting retard-singularity.

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Perhaps we can have a discussion about another underappreciated sci-fi show from the 90s and 2000s and how what was considered so-so in the 90s and early 2000s now looks like fucking Shakespeare next to the garbage being fed to us these days.
Rooting through my garage last year I found my Farscape DVDs in a box. I was compelled to buy a USB DVD drive for my computer to watch it in the background while I work. It's actually aged a lot better than I expected, and remains a very fun series.

I have a hard time deciding if Avery Brooks is a really shitty actor, or a really good actor. Am I alone?
It's both. Just like Shatner and Stewart, Brooks comes out of the Shakespearean theatrical tradition, where overacting is the standard. That can lead to really great moments, but also sputtering melodramatic outbursts.

It's just the tradeoff with these actors. All three of them did it to some degrees, with Stewart threading the needle best and Shatner probably the worst. Both Mulgrew and Bakula lack this Shakespearean background, and I think their shows suffer as a result.

G'Kar is hands down my favorite B5 character, Andreas Katsulas was an amazing actor, one of the most talented I've ever seen.
Oh, Star Trek thread, right...I also wished his TNG character, Tomalak had shown up in more than 4 episodes too. Nice that they brought him back for the finale at least.
Yeah, G'Kar and Londo's arc, and the way Jurasik and Katsulas worked together, is almost certainly the best part of the entire series.
 
Nothing exists past Enterprise but tales told by idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Awhile back, I came up with 2 "headcanons" for what's "real Star Trek" to me. The second stops after ENT.

2 Star Trek "headcanons" I like:

1: The "official canon" as it was in 1975 plus the animated series (if that wasn't "canon").

2: The "official canon" as it was in 2005, minus that animated series (if that was "canon").​

(so the first option is just a TOS world)
 
Perhaps we can have a discussion about another underappreciated sci-fi show from the 90s and 2000s and how what was considered so-so in the 90s and early 2000s now looks like fucking Shakespeare next to the garbage being fed to us these days.

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It never ceases to amuse me that they modeled Rigel's eyebrows after his voice actor Jonthan Hardy. Dude had some legit bushes growing on his face.
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He's slightly more human in American History X so I think Sisko is supposed to be that... Stilted? On purpose.
Season one Sisko is just him thinking about his mortgage.

He only wakes up in scenes with Jake. And with Jadzia he’s at least intrigued.

Fans out here doing the Zapruder film on his pauses. He just phoned it in until they handed him a war storyline which made him sit up.
This youtube playlist is his Shaft knockoff, A Man Called Hawk. Lasted thirteen episodes. I'll probably watch a few to see what he was like.
I’ve never seen Spencer for Hire, but Hawk is apparently like… an underworld guy who helps Spencer because he hates the wrong sorts of criminals.:blart: It would’ve been funnier if he were a Black Panther exercising his Second Amendment rights.

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Then in the spinoff he goes to D.C. to clean up the streets. He looks like he's waiting for you to Press Start.
Rooting through my garage last year I found my Farscape DVDs in a box. I was compelled to buy a USB DVD drive for my computer to watch it in the background while I work. It's actually aged a lot better than I expected, and remains a very fun series.
Australia in 2000 was punching above their weight culturally.

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But I just like that it’s not American. Canada had Lexx, Australia had Farscape, the UK.... they mostly did Douglas Adams sci-fi. (The aliens are about to blow up Earth because your recycling bin is wrong.) But then Eccleston’s Doctor Who came on, “Oi Rose, the Daleks are back and we’re still skint.”
 
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"Aw, hey, Tilly, we thought you were dead. Deal 'em again, G'Kar."
I wonder what Mirror Universe Zefram picked for his soundtrack. Magic Carpet Ride seems way too optimistic and peaceful...
Yeah, that'll do.
A song from one of the most celebrated rock bands in the Mirror Universe.
It never ceases to amuse me that they modeled Rigel's eyebrows after his voice actor Jonthan Hardy. Dude had some legit bushes growing on his face.
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Those are not eyebrows. Those are goddamn eyestaches.
 
But I just like that it’s not American. Canada had Lexx, Australia had Farscape, the UK.... they mostly did Douglas Adams sci-fi. (The aliens are about to blow up Earth because your recycling bin is wrong.) But then Eccleston’s Doctor Who came on, “Oi Rose, the Daleks are back and we’re still skint.”
OH. MY. GOD.
Lexx! I had not thought about that show in 25 years.
 
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