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Can you niggers stop talking about the racial themes of Star Trek and get to discussing what a North Korean Star Trek episode would look like?
They'd be on the second highest mountain in North Korea and claim to be in space. They would deny the existence of the highest mountain and Kim Il Sung would have made space travel in his garage out of a hot plate and some screws. Everyone knows they are just on a mountain, but the second one anyone says anything they get shot. Everyone dies of exposure by the end of the first episode.
 
Say what you want about boomers, but at least they knew how to do Trek in the 90s.
It's not a generational issue. Paramount is hiring the worst writers and executives on purpose.
Socialists have historically a very, very bad track record at detecting fascism.
Socialists view power exercised against counter-revolutionaries as justified, not fascist. They can't see fascism in the same way they can't see themselves as the bad guys.
If we're going that route, TOS already did "racism is bad" far more effectively with Let That Be Your Last Battlefield where the crew outright says "racism is fucking stupid" and the two black and white guys show up to find their entire world was destroyed by their race war.
My point was more they had six seasons of Avery Brooks as the emissary. If they wanted to do an "actually you're crazy in the 50's" plot on that character, it had to involve race. I think it might have been more interesting to put the emissary in post nuclear apocalypse Earth as either a Mad Max style raider chief or a kang in Africa somewhere, having to grapple with having everything he wants under his rule. Perhaps using black ancestral trauma was the pah-wraiths way of calling the emissary a nigger.
Or when Abe Lincoln comes to town and calls Uhura a charming nigress and she says not to worry about it because in the future we didn't worry about words.
Wholesome. I wish we returned to that.
 
They'd be on the second highest mountain in North Korea and claim to be in space. They would deny the existence of the highest mountain and Kim Il Sung would have made space travel in his garage out of a hot plate and some screws. Everyone knows they are just on a mountain, but the second one anyone says anything they get shot. Everyone dies of exposure by the end of the first episode.
In "For All Mankind" the Norks were the first on Mars. That was based as fuck, actually. Never underestimate the little guy.
 
Perhaps using black ancestral trauma was the pah-wraiths way of calling the emissary a nigger.
This thread took a weird turn. Did some of you get an election result you didn't like?

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Sisko is very aware of 20th century America's love affair with racism apparently. Presumably he is also aware of how it grew that way from the 17th century up to the 20th century. He doesn't seem to say "wow, what a shitty time to be an Africa, but it does get better in the long run and now we, in the 24th century, no longer have ethnic strife among humans."

If the writers had really wanted to look at the issue, they could have very easily put Sisko in such a position that he was forced to be captured as an African (from Tribe A) and sold as a slave, been the African capturing other Africans for the economic survival of his tribe (Tribe B), and a missionary decrying slavery on moral and economic grounds, and even a merchant who was for slavery simply for his own bottom line, all of which actually existed. Let the writers put Sisko through the wringer so he can see it was far more than just the simplistic "but racism is bad" angle. Or make him experience Reconstruction and suddenly go from having someone at least provide for his needs of food, clothing, and shelter to being turned out onto the streets and told "good luck Darkie" and have to figure out how to provide for Jake and Cassidy in 1866 Louisiana.

Look at Sisko's commentary on going to Vegas in 1962 to Cassidy. It's about how blacks are treated and "our" people. He shouldn't even think of that stuff any more than I think about life in London in the 1500s for my ancestors, but again the writers aren't writing to serve the characters but for their own Baby Boomer sympathies about how tough these people had it in the past but how we can't move forward because of just how painful it was. Even Cassidy tells Sisko that was the past and they aren't bound by it, in effect "it sucked for them, but it ain't us these days so stop bitching about it."

And while we're on the subject, even changing the ending of the last episode of DS9 so that instead of Sisko effectively being dead because Brooks didn't want Sisko to be an absentee father in the form of a MIA war casualty, they made him an absentee father who could come back any time but so far still hasn't, because somehow going out for a pack of smokes and never coming home is somehow more noble than telling his son "your father died a hero". The writers thought they were doing something for Brooks's message and ended up writing the thing they weren't supposed to be writing at all and even Brooks didn't get it.
 
"Bada-Bing, Bada-Bang"
I loved how literally everybody is like "ben calm your tits it's a fucking game"
This was partially "Picard finally joining the poker game," but with Sisko. It was a great episode before the final arc.
They'd be on the second highest mountain in North Korea and claim to be in space. They would deny the existence of the highest mountain and Kim Il Sung would have made space travel in his garage out of a hot plate and some screws. Everyone knows they are just on a mountain, but the second one anyone says anything they get shot. Everyone dies of exposure by the end of the first episode.
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Perhaps using black ancestral trauma was the pah-wraiths way of calling the emissary a nigger.
This is one of the funniest posts I've read all week.
 
iirc one of the bits of LTBYLB that people don't bring up much is the guy Riddler was chasing actually killed a lot of people and shit

I loved how literally everybody is like "ben calm your tits it's a fucking game"

Are the holodeck character beside Vick even smart enough to know a user's skin color and react to it? I mean unless Bashier programed them to how could they? That seems like a lot of trouble to go to on the off chance some black guy wants to relieve segregation 500 years ago. This also assumes Bashier a man of English and Indian decent even know about this aspect of politics of a country that hasn't existed for 300 years in the first place. The program seems to be based completely around old movies and those movies didn't include racism(the big one it seems to be based on, Ocean's Eleven, has Sammy Davis Jr. treated like one of the guys with only one quick joke about him being black) so why would the program include it and why would anyone give a fuck.

I'm of Irish decent and my people were also slaves in the new world and faced decades of discrimination and I don't care, why would Sisko. Did he forget what year he lives in?
 
I just liked the 1953 setting and seeing all the cast out of makeup.
Combs and Alaimo playing 1950’s crooked cops was just *chefs kiss* perfect.
Can you niggers stop talking about the racial themes of Star Trek and get to discussing what a North Korean Star Trek episode would look like?
There’s some alternate reality out there where the Soviet Union went heavy into TV and started making their own flavor of utopian Sci-fi. Could have been really interesting, I would honest love to see a show like that.
 
I'm of Irish decent and my people were also slaves in the new world and faced decades of discrimination and I don't care, why would Sisko. Did he forget what year he lives in?
No and that's the problem. They weren't writing a man who lives in the 24th century. The writers were writing for a 20th century audience and much like they did with Kirk, just wrote a 20th century man and stuck him in funny clothes and said he was really from the future. So Kirk, and Sisko, both acted like someone from today would act including our politics. The difference is the politics of the writers who existed during TOS were all WW2 vets who saw how ugly humanity could be but had hope for the future versus their Baby Boomer kids who were gifted that new world their parents were building and who had solved those massive society problems and those same Baby Boomers really could only look backwards.
 
I just liked the 1953 setting and seeing all the cast out of makeup.
Just imagine the cheering from the cast when they didn't need to suffer through hours of makeup work for this episode.
Can you niggers stop talking about the racial themes of Star Trek and get to discussing what a North Korean Star Trek episode would look like?
There are no other spacefairing civilizations. Only the Korean Armada.
In "Bada-Bing, Bada-Bang" he complains about the the dress-up casino simulation because the real Vegas was a literal Sundown Town.
I've seen some people argue he still had the events of "Far Beyond the Stars" on his mind around then.
I loved how literally everybody is like "ben calm your tits it's a fucking game"
If it was modern Trek, Sisko would cry and everyone would feel bad that the video game hurt his feelings.
 
Best I can do is AI slop anti-juche propaganda
It's really sad that AI slop is more entertaining than a lot of fully-produced television shows.
Just imagine the cheering from the cast when they didn't need to suffer through hours of makeup work for this episode.
That's the first thing I thought when I saw JG Hertzler out of Klingon makeup. That episode must have been such a breeze to do.
 
I still think Archer's theme would've been a better intro
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Hear me out: Capture the whole "Humanity FUCK YEAH!s into space like interstellar cowboys flipping off Vulcan bitches all the way" energy and use Pantera's Mouth for War as the Enterprise intro.
BOLD AND DISASTROUS
MY EARS CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAY TO ME
Hey Vulcans have you ever tried making a V8 warp core? Didn't think so you knife eared faggots.

/edit: Now that I think about it, Tom Paris totally tried to engineer a V8 warp core for the Delta Flyer and was denied.
 
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Politics?
Chakotay becomes president, and finally gets a personality:

"The Romulans are illegal immigrants and they have to go back (to hell). They can't stay on Earth or Vulcan. However, we will allow an exemption for all big-tiddy Romulan GFs that convert to esoteric non-denominational Christianity, or esoteric non-tribal-specific American Indian spiritualism. Also, I won the last election against Janeway, trust me, she cheated, I know all about her. The Borg stole the election for her because they know she's a DISASTER. -President C."
 
If they wanted Chakotay to be cool, they's have just written him to be more like Robert Beltran is in real life.
 
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