Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Racist Trash said:
Boy haven't been there in a while, think I stopped visiting after one of the regulars died and I think I was on the start of the third loop of non stop star trek on in the background.
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it's still there
mostly the same bumpers, seems some more youtube videos about trek than I recall them having previously but it was around TAS so maybe it's to time things out or something
weekends are usually random other scifi stuff like movies
 
Man.. I really wish that Star Trek hadn't just completely and totally ended 15ish years ago... The 4th season of Enterprise was actually getting (relatively) good before they unceremoniously ended it at Episode 21...
I mean, who ends a season on Episode 21, when previous seasons of the same show had 26, 26, and 24 episodes respectively? haha... At lease make it an even number... And no series finale even, wtf?

Ok, yeah, I'm a bit disappointed that they stopped making Star Trek media (the books and comics aren't really the same, ya know?) after that last episode in 2004ish, but at least they didn't proceed to kill Star Trek and rape its corpse, like what has happened with so many other sci-fi franchises that I used to love these days "in the current year"... Maybe Star Trek can come back some day though, no? Preferably with people who actually appreciate and love what came before and who will build on it. (Enterprise was ok, but do we really need another prequel? Mmm.. I don't think so...) I'd rather see what interesting things happen to the Federation after Nemesis... In history, good things usually happen to the victors of wars, so show us the prosperity of a Federation victorious over the Dominion. Easy win, that everyone likes I think. Include the ramifications of Voyager "destroying" (I bet it wasn't that simple) the Borg if you want drama.. Get Patrick Stewart, and definitely Kate Mulgrew back ... (Maybe even Avery Brooks, if he's up for it... He probably won't be, but that's ok, but do bring back Cirroc Lofton, to reprise his role as JAKE Sisko obviously, not as his father, that would just be stupid... and Penny Johnson as Captain Kasidy Sisko, because I want to know what happened to her too.)

Making a show that is a love-letter to 90's Trek would sell.
Also, get back any former actors from all 3 previous 90's trek shows that you can who still look even remotely decent (So.. maybe not Jennifer Lien as Kes..)... for at least a cameo. You can skip Neelix though, I'd be ok if he died offscreen because his home planet needed me him... lol

:'(
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
I think their observation of nu Trek being very spirituality focused is also true for Star Wars.
It seems modern sci fi shows are afraid of science in a deep sense - they dislike the cold certainty and logic, so they replace them spirituality and belief in higher power. I wonder if it's a generational issue or a gender issue.
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The strangest part is that the people who are writing it are the people who also hate religion.
 
OH goody...
 
MembersSchoolPizza: "Well, lets check out Episode 5 of Picard."

<30 seconds later>

Odin's fucking hairy asscrack, I did not need that opening scene. Fucking tonal dissonance much, CBS? What part of "Star Trek" said "Showing graphic torture of slowly ripping a man's eyeball out on screen" to you?
 
5 episodes in and nothing happens, again. Still no "Star Trek" or "Picard".
The prologue - like @MembersSchoolPizza said - was just unbelievable. Why are they doing this? Who is the audience? How could they put that graphic torture on screen and 10 minutes later have a generic CW soap opera?
For a show named "Picard", it's incredible how absent the character is in this story. This show feels like those new Marvel comics where they have that well-known hero on the cover but the story is about his uninspired sidekick with half-shaved head who is the bestest ever.
Also what are they doing to the romulan twink samurai? Why is he acting like a mentally challenged individual? Why are they turning him into a comic relief character like Jayne from Firefly or Amos from The Expanse?
 
Ok, for fuck's sake. That ending. You've basically ruined a dumb, but likable enough, character, and established that they really are legit doing a "AI R BAD" storyline.

Miller said:
Also what are they doing to the romulan twink samurai? Why is he acting like a mentally challenged individual? Why are they turning him into a comic relief character like Jayne from Firefly or Amos from The Expanse?
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That's not fair to either Jayne or Amos. Jayne... ok, he's comic relief, but we quickly get shown he has a lot of depth, too, in his own ways.

Amos was never really intended to be comic relief, at least not in the books, it's just in the show he's... ok, a bit pooly handled in the show, I'll admit, but still, he's more than just comic relief.
 
MembersSchoolPizza said:
That's not fair to either Jayne or Amos. Jayne... ok, he's comic relief, but we quickly get shown he has a lot of depth, too, in his own ways.
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Yeah, as much as I didn't enjoy season 4, they managed to make him likable. I think he's my favorite character of The Expanse now.
 
Miller said:
Yeah, as much as I didn't enjoy season 4, they managed to make him likable. I think he's my favorite character of The Expanse now.
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I don't know if you've read the novels... All I'll say is that Book!Amos and TV!Amos are probably the most different from each other of any of the characters, excepting a few that are either "was a throwaway in the book, fleshed out into a character in the series" or "smooshed two characters together into some deformed hybrid character" cases.
 

I've been watching old episodes of TNG recently and I gotta love how episodes can be low-key while still being compelling. The Royale has a nonsense premise (its really just an excuse to reuse an old paramount set), but goddamn do they sell it with smart writing and good performances.
 
I wrote a bunch of words but it can be summed up with I hate the show and I'm mad and I hate the writers of the show. I would rather watch Threshold and Spock's Brain back to back every week. This is just depressing.

Miller said:
Who is the audience?
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People on Reddit, I guess? I saw someone there write "CBS changed the video player interface" as a criticism of this episode. I'm not usually big brained enough to believe in paid shills, but I might start.
 
acmeurquhart said:
So Romulans are cylons now?
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If that theory about the Borg is true then Kurtzman really has killed Star Trek.

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