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Yeah, that scene completely baffled me. It wasn't even a terrible scene up until then, but it just... That reaction made no sense.
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Yeah, that scene completely baffled me. It wasn't even a terrible scene up until then, but it just... That reaction made no sense.
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Fuck, I should have known Seven's inclusion was just going to be a waste of time.
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The new star trek is interesting because it really does show that we've given up on ourselves as a species both creatively and ideologically. We can no longer create something new or interesting and we can no longer conceive of a future where people are nice to each other.
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Someone on /tv/ posted spoilers for the next episode ITT:
The link has screenshots and a small tl;dr of the episode:
The second to last sentence makes me want to drop this show right away, but I'll hang on just to seethe and see it for myself.
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The link has screenshots and a small tl;dr of the episode:
Picard hides out with the Rikers. Soji becomes BFFs with the Rikers' daughter. The Rikers' son has died from some illness few years ago. Hugh gets killed by Narek's sister. Nothing else happens but it's still the best episode that's aired so far.
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'member Seven? She's right here, in an episode that's in no way a backdoor pilot for a Fenris Raiders spinoff.
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Its like I and others said earlier. The "roddenderry box" foundation stone of a better future with a utopian society thats settled all major internal conflicts and issues, for all its flaws and for all the autism the old man enforced it and for all the idiocy it led to in various stories, atleast gave the show a definitive and clear identity that set it aside from pretty much every other major sci-fi franchise on the market, and while carefully trying to desconstruct it or explore its darker implications as DS9 did was a success, it still allowed for this box to remain in place and allowed it to still be the beating heart of the franchise
Casually throwing it away was the worst fucking mistake they could have ever made, as now you could strip out the characters/races/setting names and appearences and declare it to be a reboot of literally any other sci-fi franchise from stargate to farscape and it would make just as much sense
Oh god....is Riker's daughter gonna be autistic? She looks like shes gonna be autistic
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I hope they're just going to make her quirky or some kind of hippy, but not gonna lie, I also thought of autism when I saw those pics.
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The injun facepaint makes me think "they will explicitly say she is autistic" in order to try and head off any twitter screechings from the usual suspects
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It's sadder that it was done by absolute garbage people who don't even know what the franchise was about in the first place.
I feel like they only wanted to do that action scene with her and everything else was just thrown together to get to that.
It was a cool scene, but I was so mad about everything else in that episode I couldn't appreciate it at all and it just made me madder.
I totally believe the spoiler, it sounds exactly like something they would do. Just shows they don't give a shit about Hugh, they just needed "former drone guy", and then needed to kill him to be shocking and prove that Sexy Sister is a bad guy in case people didn't know that already. Any former cast members coming back should immediately be on death watch unless they're main cast, and if they're main cast, they need to have a new, tragic past because the show is dark and real now.
Does anybody else remember when this show was first announced and they were shilling it as a comforting light in these trying, dark times? https://mobile.twitter.com/SirPatStew/status/1025840545216823296?
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I remember. And I'm still trying to see when the positive and comforting storylines will kick in. Right now we've had all but three characters bully an old man for not being Superman and saving the entire galaxy, the same three characters (the Romulan housekeepers and Hugh) being tossed to the side or killed because DRAMA, a character from an earlier series being brutally tortured and killed because the original actor said some controversial things, everyone being absolutely miserable (drinking and doing drugs) and having dark backstories, around four characters if not more being spies, an admiral telling Picard to go fuck himself, the Federation being such a shithole that you wonder what happened in the last like 14 years, everyone being trigger happy and so on and so on.
But at least we have some very weak and shitty allegories about Brexit and the refugee crisis, right, Patrick?
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I'm just hoping this will end as a story written by Garak to Bashir.
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Garak would write something more believable.
They will probably tack on some moral at the end like Discovery season 1 that everyone can point to and say "see? It's just like old Star Trek! Nothing has changed!" completely ignoring the entire season that happened.
It's just like any other defense of nu Trek. Don't like star trek is dark now? DS9 was dark! Don't like gore? There has been gore before! Want episodic? DS9 wasn't episodic! (Except it was, but ok) Don't like Starfleet is racist and corrupt? But they have been racist and corrupt before!
Completely ignoring that in hundreds of episodes of this franchise, there was an overall consistency and all of the above were mostly outliers and not the entire theme of the show. Nu Trek is only these outliers, with scraps of the original idealism thrown in.
I think it's like the analogy Bruce Maddox was trying to make about baking cookies. The writers have made a cookie that's 95% flour, baking soda and salt, with only a quarter teaspoon of sugar and a couple of chocolate chips thrown in. Then they point to it and say "all the components are technically there, just like they always were" and ignore the thing tastes like shit.
At least I think that's the analogy he was trying to make, I basically tuned out at that point so I'm not really sure.
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Apparently CBS is DMCA-ing people who posted the promo picture of STD season 3 on YT and Twitter. Someone manually copyright claimed one of Nitpicking Nerd/Major Grin's video (he only used that pic in the thumbnail).
Also I know now why Hugh is on the show and is played by the same actor:
Also I know now why Hugh is on the show and is played by the same actor:
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Of course... thank god they also have a daughter who is probably stronger and smarter than their son.
Autism is so passé. Dyslexia is the new cool magic thing. I still can't believe that the writers of STD thought that dyslexia was like autism.
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I have dysphraxia and it took me a solid 10 minutes to stop laughing at that dumb motherfucker and his bike in Doctor Who. I'm genuinly looking forward to them pretending I have magic powers but also dreading every illiturate fuckhead thinking they're special as opposed to dumb.
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I've seen a lot of theories that the writers behind the show don't like Star Trek, or science fiction, or whatever, but I'd like to propose an alternate hypothesis.
That the writers know nothing BUT pop culture genre media.
That their entire lives have been spent discussing the minutia of Star Wars/Trek/LOTR/capeshit on internet sites, writing slash fanfiction with 7of9, and wondering what kind of porn Romulans are into.
That they see everything through a lens of geek culture references because they have little to no experiance at, well, life.
The characters and stories are all tropes we've seen a hundred times before. Raffi's relationship to addiction, Picards aging, the stereotypes, the lives of the Romulan refugees. It's the type of understanding I'd expect from hanging out in a video game themed bar with tech working reddit users wearing Zelda t-shirts, not from people who had actually lived these experiences.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are people on staff with encyclopedic knowledge of every episode, ship, and character.
What they lack is an understanding of what Star Trek means to people. How these stories and characters intersect with our real lives. Why people watch Star Trek in the first place.
That the writers know nothing BUT pop culture genre media.
That their entire lives have been spent discussing the minutia of Star Wars/Trek/LOTR/capeshit on internet sites, writing slash fanfiction with 7of9, and wondering what kind of porn Romulans are into.
That they see everything through a lens of geek culture references because they have little to no experiance at, well, life.
The characters and stories are all tropes we've seen a hundred times before. Raffi's relationship to addiction, Picards aging, the stereotypes, the lives of the Romulan refugees. It's the type of understanding I'd expect from hanging out in a video game themed bar with tech working reddit users wearing Zelda t-shirts, not from people who had actually lived these experiences.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are people on staff with encyclopedic knowledge of every episode, ship, and character.
What they lack is an understanding of what Star Trek means to people. How these stories and characters intersect with our real lives. Why people watch Star Trek in the first place.
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I'm fairly certain there's likely enormous lists demonstrating how the recent Star Trek entries don't adhere to or blatantly disregard things established in the more liked Star Trek series, so maybe they're just really familiar with the old episode preview snips and that's the extent of their knowledge.
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I think they know the pop culture version of those franchises. When someone says "Star Trek", people will think:
- Enterprise
- Kirk bangs chicks in every episode
- Vulcans, Klingons
- Live Long and Prosper, the Vulcan salute
- Beam me up, Scotty (that never happened in TOS)
- Dammit Jim I'm a X not a Y
- Picard
- Tea Earl Grey
- Engage
- Borg
That would be Kirsten Beyer (the only Trek person who works on STD and Picard).
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