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AnOminous said:
It's hard to blame them. Would you want to be soyified by the current version of the Federation? I'd rather be assimilated by the actual fucking Borg. At least you'd get cool augments.
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Funny how with the now terminally fucked up timeline, after STD the Federation progresses towards mandatory miniskirts, ship chapels and (supposedly) banning women from command. I guess the political pendulum can swing even in space.
 
It looks like Patrick Stewart - who was so desperate to talk about current events - now doesn't really want to do that anymore for the second season. No WuFlu allegory.

I would not encourage that. This is a disturbing and frightening and sad time for many thousands of people. I would feel uncomfortable if we were to make this a theme of the second season of [Star Trek: Picard]. It is too sensitive, too upsetting, too frightening, than some of the other issues that we have dealt with, which are much more of a political nature.
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Patrick Stewart Reveals What Storyline He Wants To Avoid For Star Trek: Picard Season 2 - Bounding Into Comics

The finale is already over a week behind us and Sir Patrick Stewart already knows what kind of story line he doesn’t want to engage with when it comes to the second season of Star Trek Picard. Patrick Stewart On What He Wants To Avoid For Season 2 The actor spoke with the CBC’s The …
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Miller said:
It looks like Patrick Stewart - who was so desperate to talk about current events - now doesn't really want to do that anymore for the second season. No WuFlu allegory.


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Patrick Stewart Reveals What Storyline He Wants To Avoid For Star Trek: Picard Season 2 - Bounding Into Comics

The finale is already over a week behind us and Sir Patrick Stewart already knows what kind of story line he doesn’t want to engage with when it comes to the second season of Star Trek Picard. Patrick Stewart On What He Wants To Avoid For Season 2 The actor spoke with the CBC’s The …
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These people are such cowards... "oh let's talk about contemporary issues! until it gets hard!"

THIS is the shit I'm always going on about! If you assholes had never bothered with trying to comment on contemporary issues and worked more on telling a good story (that may end up having application to today's issues) then it would be no big deal to skip over corona-chan now!

But NO - you had to go and make whatever was in the headlines your lodestar and now that all of a sudden the headlines turn in a direction that makes you uncomfortable, you chicken out.

Bunch of NPCs.
 
So SFDebris has released his background video on Star Trek Beyond early.

You know... I really feel for that movie now. Here was someone who really loved the franchise and wanted to do right by her. Here were some people that really tried and put in the effort. But the bridges had already been burned by JJ and Kurtzman.

Also mad respects now for Idris.
 
Flexo said:
So SFDebris has released his background video on Star Trek Beyond early.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aV0jFcyKmQg
You know... I really feel for that movie now. Here was someone who really loved the franchise and wanted to do right by her. Here were some people that really tried and put in the effort. But the bridges had already been burned by JJ and Kurtzman.
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I liked the bit in the credits where the Enterprise is confronted by a gigantic, disembodied hand.
 
Flexo said:
These people are such cowards... "oh let's talk about contemporary issues! until it gets hard!"

THIS is the shit I'm always going on about! If you assholes had never bothered with trying to comment on contemporary issues and worked more on telling a good story (that may end up having application to today's issues) then it would be no big deal to skip over corona-chan now!

But NO - you had to go and make whatever was in the headlines your lodestar and now that all of a sudden the headlines turn in a direction that makes you uncomfortable, you chicken out.

Bunch of NPCs.
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What about the headlines about illegal immigrants killing people by either being too stupid not to know to pick up a loaded gun or literally sodomizing a woman to death with a corncob, what about those? Also wtf about the "moral" of Picard's 1st season being basically "never trust a xeno: the Romulans did Mars and the synthetic xenos were going to kill us all"?

Flexo said:
So SFDebris has released his background video on Star Trek Beyond early.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aV0jFcyKmQg
You know... I really feel for that movie now. Here was someone who really loved the franchise and wanted to do right by her. Here were some people that really tried and put in the effort. But the bridges had already been burned by JJ and Kurtzman.

Also mad respects now for Idris.
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Star Trek Beyond is in my top half of Star Trek movies in general. It was the best of the Abrahmsverse and a decent Star Trek movie in general. Better than 5, Nemesis, Generations and Insurrection.
 
MembersSchoolPizza said:
What. The fuck. Is that shit? Are the Shorts *supposed* to be parodies?
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Nah they're supposed to be cheap and easy content to drip-feed the passive consumers that make up CBS' target audience and keep them from remembering to cancel their CBS All Access subscription.
 
Prior to the attack on Mars why TF was the Federation keeping all of the transport fleet in one location instead of sending off those ready to go? Sending ships off on their own is risky enough to understandably wait for a group of five or more to be assembled first and then sent on their way.
 
Guts Gets Some said:
The saddest part is that the actual Trek parody The Orville is still more Trek too.

Hell, I'd say even Galaxy Quest was closer to Trek.
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I think it was Chuck over at SFDebris that said it best, but the point has been made by many - Galaxy Quest worked because it was a love letter to Trek. Not any specific Trek, the whole concept of Trek, the show itself, the actors, the fanbase.

So, yeah, it's completely sensible that Galaxy Quest would be more of a Trek than... what it's become.
 
Flexo said:
Hmm... completely disrespecting the past while ripping it off and pretending it's your own work?
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It blows my mind how much a talentless hack Kurtzman is. It defies comprehension. It would be fascinating like finding some kind of alien lifeform if it wasn't so sad.

I mean if there is something Star Trek doesn't lack are story ideas. Fanfiction, and not to mention all the fan movies and games Or even the official books are filled with fans having so many ideas that it would take years just to read them all, and entire lifetimes to fully develop because there is just so much potential and ideas. Star Trek basically writes itself.

Any half-competent writer would be so overwhelmed about Star trek ideas they would just need pitches for your average science problem of the week episode because those benefit from variety and different perspectives. It can be a war drama or a political thriller or the usual exploration of the unknown.

... and the best thing Kurtzman can do is ripoff an indie game for ST: Discovery and Mass effect for Picard.

How can you be so pathetically bad? It's unreal.
 
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Pixy Misa said:
I mean if there is something Star Trek doesn't lack are story ideas. Fanfiction, and not to mention all the fan movies and games Or even the official books are filled with fans having so many ideas that it would take years just to read them all, and entire lifetimes to fully develop because there is just so much potential and ideas. Star Trek basically writes itself.
How can you be so pathetically bad? It's unreal.
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Apparently the official tie-in novels to Picard have all the backstory in them, instead of having them be incorporated in the show and bumping it up to 13 episodes.

10 is such an odd number for the first season of a series. Could it be that STD doesn't have very good "ratings" and Amazon wouldn't give them the budget they asked for? Wouldn't this shit be much better suited to over the air TV anyway? At least then you could actually measure the ratings with Nielsen boxes, but you'll have to take out the f-bombs and probably the sister fucking.

edit - I suppose you could measure it with whatever nifty new features ATSC 3.0 has, but I'm fuzzy on that and most people would probably be watching it on demand and on cable/satellite anyway. But it would be a treat to those of us with TV receivers - that's why COSMOS aired on FOX first, because 1080p and possibly 4k where available.
 
Pixy Misa said:
It blows my mind how much a talentless hack Kurtzman is. It defies comprehension. It would be fascinating like finding some kind of alien lifeform if it wasn't so sad.

I mean if there is something Star Trek doesn't lack are story ideas. Fanfiction, and not to mention all the fan movies and games Or even the official books are filled with fans having so many ideas that it would take years just to read them all, and entire lifetimes to fully develop because there is just so much potential and ideas. Star Trek basically writes itself.

Any half-competent writer would be so overwhelmed about Star trek ideas they would just need pitches for your average science problem of the week episode because those benefit from variety and different perspectives. It can be a war drama or a political thriller or the usual exploration of the unknown.

... and the best thing Kurtzman can do is ripoff an indie game for ST: Discovery and Mass effect for Picard.

How can you be so pathetically bad? It's unreal.
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You know what I find even more unbelievable? With his track record, he not only continues to get any work at all (his projects are not only scoffed at by the public, but have hardly even had the numbers to justify his continued career), but leading roles in huge franchises.

Who's the bigger fool? The fool himself or the fool who hires him?
 
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Miller said:
It looks like Patrick Stewart - who was so desperate to talk about current events - now doesn't really want to do that anymore for the second season. No WuFlu allegory.
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I doubt he could even if he wanted to.

Anything worth making about the Wu-flu has to at some point address the source. The fact that we're in this shit because China fucked the entire world because, well, they're China. Anything that doesn't touch on that is dishonest.

Hollywood isn't going to do that, and the Chinese money in Hollywood is going to go into overdrive to nuke any production that even implies it.

I expect plenty of generic pandemic stories, and close-up shit about "frontline heroes", but I also expect a curious absence of mainstream movies/TV that takes any big picture view.
 
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