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They introduced a mission recently where you team up with Depression of Nine and Mikey Hambone to meet Abraham Lincoln and the Excalbians. Jeri Ryan's line readings sound like she wants to kill herself, which is perfectly in line with a Picard character.

As far as "fun" goes, it does get a little repetitive (fly to place, fight a ship, beam down, fight some guys, fix a thing, beam up, fight another ship, repeat) but there's lots of missions and tons of customization options, uniforms, ships, etc. There's also daily achievements and seasonal events. Currently there's the annual Summer Festival on Risa, where you can surf and fly around on jetpacks and have dance parties.

The graphics have improved over the years but the character models look like they belong in an early PS2 game.
 
My preferred Star Trek game is still Starfleet Command 2.

Pretty much a computerized SFB which I play to this day.

STO is by far the interior combat platform even if the graphics are massively better.

Everyone loves The trouble with Tribbles...you just cant not.

But in my head cannon I always wanted the Scotty scene to go like so:

Kirk: so you hit the Klingon when he insulted you?

Scotty : nay

Kirk: then you hit him when he insulted me?

Scotty: Nay, they were but words of a drunken fool Captain.

Kirk : (frustrated and confused) Scotty, why then did you attack the Klingons?

Scotty: (straight faced and serious) They called the Enterprise a garbage scowe Captain! So they had ta die.
 
Even though that's one of my favorite scenes in the entire franchise it does go down a little illogically. Its definitely played for the humor of the situation, and personally I always thought Kirk of all people would be pissed if filthy Klingons insulted his beloved Enterprise. I mean just look at the way he loses his shit in The Naked Time a few episodes earlier. It gets a pass from me though because its still well shot and well-directed.
 
Couple of favorites from TNG would have to be Data's Day, Elementary Dear Data and The Inner Light.

DS9 I don't even know where to begin, I love that one so much, The Wire, The Ascent, Our Man Bashir, The Magificient Ferengi, It's Only a Paper Moon, In The Pale Moonlight, The Siege of AR-558

VOY: Anything with the Doctor or Seven of Nine, and any Tuvok episode.

Tangent: Tuvok is the best Vulcan in all the series. That's right, I'll fight you! Of course not gonna shit on Leonard's performance it was great and set the basis for what a Vulcan is. But I love how Tim Russ played Tuvok. He seemed to really take the character to heart and always had a great tone that was neutral and always the voice of logic. Even with Neelix really really being Non-Vulcan at him he'd never really get truly annoyed at him. Maybe a little twang there, before he'd center himself and deliver one of his stern rebuttal.

Worst Klingon: Fucking T'Pol, oms was she terrible! Constant overt irritation and annoyance was clear in her performance. That was a problem that was all over Enterprise, Vulcans showing ton of emotions (For Vulcans) They're supposed to be cold. Yes, they find non-Vulcan emotional behavior to be illogical and going against their natural grain BUT THEY DON'T ACT OPENLY HOSTILE ABOUT THAT. I know I hear later on they wrote that T'Pol had that Vulcan disease that makes them get overemotional like Spock's dad had but you're not gonna have me buy that this was planned all along and Joleene was instructed to be emotional in her performance of T'Pol, she just couldn't play a fucking Vulcan right!
 
rabo said:
Worst Klingon: Fucking T'Pol, oms was she terrible! Constant overt irritation and annoyance was clear in her performance. That was a problem that was all over Enterprise, Vulcans showing ton of emotions (For Vulcans) They're supposed to be cold. Yes, they find non-Vulcan emotional behavior to be illogical and going against their natural grain BUT THEY DON'T ACT OPENLY HOSTILE ABOUT THAT. I know I hear later on they wrote that T'Pol had that Vulcan disease that makes them get overemotional like Spock's dad had but you're not gonna have me buy that this was planned all along and Joleene was instructed to be emotional in her performance of T'Pol, she just couldn't play a fucking Vulcan right!
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But hot damn could she fill a tank top.
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I bet they figured they'd get her as eye candy and make her a vulcan, so her bad acting wouldn't be noticeable... too bad she failed at playing someone who doesn't have emotions.

Kinda funny to compare her to Jeri Ryan, who was casted to draw some eyes, but she was a great actress with a great range and a great singing voice.
When it comes to eye candy, Voy > Ent
 
rabo said:
I know I hear later on they wrote that T'Pol had that Vulcan disease that makes them get overemotional like Spock's dad
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If I'm not mistaken, she gets mind-raped in an episode and later during the events on the Delphic Expanse she gets exposed to an element of that region that affects the brain chemistry of the Vulcans. I believe they had something planned for the 5th season where she would find out (via her mother I think) that her father was a romulan.
I like T'Pol. She started as a vulcan who didn't want to hang out with the smelly humans then she slowly learned to tolerate them and became part of the NX-01 crew. My opinion might not be popular but I liked the way they portrayed the vulcans in Enterprise, they're arrogant assholes but in a good way. I think it's Ambassador Soval who said to Archer that the humans remind them of themselves before they found Logic.
 
Anyone play any of the Trek tabletop RPG's? I bought the Modiphius one a few years ago but haven't tried it. I used to play the old school FASA RPG. Great ship combat system in that one.
 
rabo said:
Worst Klingon: Fucking T'Pol, oms was she terrible! Constant overt irritation and annoyance was clear in her performance. That was a problem that was all over Enterprise, Vulcans showing ton of emotions (For Vulcans) They're supposed to be cold. Yes, they find non-Vulcan emotional behavior to be illogical and going against their natural grain BUT THEY DON'T ACT OPENLY HOSTILE ABOUT THAT. I know I hear later on they wrote that T'Pol had that Vulcan disease that makes them get overemotional like Spock's dad had but you're not gonna have me buy that this was planned all along and Joleene was instructed to be emotional in her performance of T'Pol, she just couldn't play a fucking Vulcan right!
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To be quite fair to T'pol she had a mind meld brain disease and in the expanse she had indulged in an element that absolutely wrecked Vulcan emotional control for 3 months so she could feel more "human" emotions. Not to mention she practically got PTSD from all the trauma she suffered while serving on the enterprise, and yes Vulcan's do get PTSD they are just better at usually managing the emotions before that point/not revealing it due to intense training.

Furthermore, the Vulcan's in enterprise had not fully embraced surak's true teachings and were more or less fed a bastardized Romulun version that preached logic, but was actually highly emotional (to the point where Vulcan's were becoming a lot like Romulans). On the other hand, the syrrannites were only able to get whispers of Surak's teachings through his katra and didn't fully understand it themselves, leading to them being too emotional. That was until Archer found the record of his true teachings and over the course of decades things got back on track to the point where we get Spock and the Vulcans of TOS.

T'pol's actress was also not that bad, she had to play an emotional Vulcan trying to contain those emotions with flawed teachings and an environment that increasingly challenged her flawed training. But ultimately, T'pol on some level wanted to be human due to her experiences with them and that is why she surrendered her commission and told the High command to fuck off on multiple occasions (and banged trip).

I understand though that this is a strong departure from what vulcan's typically are and why I think people really don't give enterprise a fair shot.
 
rabo said:
Tangent: Tuvok is the best Vulcan in all the series. That's right, I'll fight you! Of course not gonna shit on Leonard's performance it was great and set the basis for what a Vulcan is. But I love how Tim Russ played Tuvok. He seemed to really take the character to heart and always had a great tone that was neutral and always the voice of logic. Even with Neelix really really being Non-Vulcan at him he'd never really get truly annoyed at him. Maybe a little twang there, before he'd center himself and deliver one of his stern rebuttal.
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I'm a huge non-Voyager guy but Tim Russ's performance as Tuvok is undeniably good.

Miller said:
I like T'Pol. She started as a vulcan who didn't want to hang out with the smelly humans then she slowly learned to tolerate them and became part of the NX-01 crew. My opinion might not be popular but I liked the way they portrayed the vulcans in Enterprise, they're arrogant assholes but in a good way. I think it's Ambassador Soval who said to Archer that the humans remind them of themselves before they found Logic.
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I dunno, I wanted it to be that way, but the writing was just such a mess that it didn't work for me.
 
The TNG game on the Genesis seemed like it was pretty decent all things considered.
 
Oh god are we gonna geek out about the games now? Judgement Rites is my top pick.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
Kinda funny to compare her to Jeri Ryan, who was casted to draw some eyes, but she was a great actress with a great range and a great singing voice.
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Her playing the Doctor “possessing” Seven of Nine in that one episode was hilarious. She did a great job nailing his mannerisms and all.
 
White Devil said:
Star Trek : Shattered Universe was always one of my favorite, and IMO, most underrated Trek games.
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The last level is fucking horseshit though, even with cheats. Still some great setpeice moments.

Clown College said:
Did any of you play the Dominion Wars game? I heard it was kind of buggy and bad but it always caught my eye. I left to live overseas right when it came out and didn't have my pc so I never got to play it.
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Funny you brought that up, I had it as a kid but ironically it was too much for my PC to run at the time. When I downloaded it later... my PC still won't run it, because now its apparently too simple for modern hardware. I did aggressively read reviews of it afterwards to try and get some closure. Apparently it kind of sucks. If I ever get big into emulation I'll probably give it another crack though.
 
I'm going to check out Dominion Wars after I finish DS9. I've played all the Starfleet Command games and loved them. I know I played the Sega games but that was so long ago I don't really remember much about them. We're talking 25 years almost.

I've been playing a Trek mod for Sins of a Solar Empire and all I can say is fuck the Borg.
 
I've been dicking around trying to get Birth of the Federation running since that's by the Masters of Orion people. So far no luck, if anyone has any tips that don't involve emulating Windows 98 on a VM let me know.
 
L50LasPak said:
Funny you brought that up, I had it as a kid but ironically it was too much for my PC to run at the time. When I downloaded it later... my PC still won't run it, because now its apparently too simple for modern hardware. I did aggressively read reviews of it afterwards to try and get some closure. Apparently it kind of sucks. If I ever get big into emulation I'll probably give it another crack though.
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L50LasPak said:
I've been dicking around trying to get Birth of the Federation running since that's by the Masters of Orion people. So far no luck, if anyone has any tips that don't involve emulating Windows 98 on a VM let me know.
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Ya if I could get a copy of Starfleet Command 2 that had a working serial and could get it running on Win10 without emulation that would be great.
 
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