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Just when you think they've dragged Star Trek as low as it can possibly go, they somehow manage to go even deeper.
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Is context better or worse in this instance?
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To know that, I'd have to check what the episode is about and I find myself with zero motivation to do so, I actually don't care, not even as morbid curiosity... Like someone said, indifference is the opposite of love.
Alas, I guess that somehow answers the question? Context isn't even relevant.
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I see they're already going Pickle Rick.
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This is the equivalent of Ghostbusters 2016 where they turn one of the symbols of the franchise into a violent monster either because they think they are clever or because they hate what came before and want to destroy it.
Also I think this is the best place to say this but I've actually started watching Star Trek for the first time in my life and I really like what I've seen. Most of what I've seen has been the original series with a few episodes of the TNG but I really like what I've seen so far.
All these inventive scenarios that ask these big moral questions and the characters are not smug self-righteous assholes about their beliefs, they look at these scenarios and argue what they think is the best solution to the problem. When Kirk wants to give guns to the primitive tribe so they can fight the other tribe on even ground because the Klingons armed the other tribe with muskets and gunpowder, Kirk has a reasonable explanation why he is doing what he is doing. At the same time the leader of the tribe is hesitant to accept the guns because of his pacifist beliefs and McCoy is against Kirks plan because he thinks it will lead to more lethal and violent war between the tribes. All parties have a legitimate argument to what's going on and all three are right in their arguments. At the end of the day the episode ends on a bittersweet note where Kirk realizes what Starfleet and the Klingons interference has done to the planet and concludes they were serpents in Eden, they both brought their warlike ways to this planet and the only realistic scenario is to arm both sides with guns knowing they will go to war with each other.
From the few clips I've seen of Discovery, Picard, and Lower Decks their philosophy seems to be violence is the first, last, and only solution to the problem. I've skimmed through a few episodes of Lower Decks and the MC of that show is so quick to just start fights at the slightest drop of a hat. First episode of the show after stealing the farming tools her answer to the giant bug chasing her and her spineless cuck sidekick is to lure it into a trap and beat it up. In the mining episode of the original show with the rock monster attacking the miners, Kirk and Spock saw a pattern, realized the creature was intelligent and made an effort to communicate with the creature to learn what it was up too and negotiated a peaceful solution to the problem. I know Lower Decks is a cartoon, but its considered a canon Star Trek series and the way characters react to scenarios from the original show is like night and day.
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The original series was something the likes of which had never been done before and has never been done since. The closest to it is the original Twilight Zone. The writing was top-notch, often by giants in the field. People like Harlan Ellison, Robert Bloch (author of "Psycho"), Theodore Sturgeon, Fredric Brown, David Gerrold, Norman Spinrad, the list goes on and on. And the actual staff writers, like D.C. Fontana and Jerome Bixby, are great in their own right.
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I'm loving the Dax and Worf dynamic so far. Jadzia has so much more spunk and personality than Troi. When they tried to do Worf and Diana, it was like permanently set in the pillow talk phase and that shit was boring.
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Worf's idea of a vacation is a week in a Chinese concentration camp.
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"A Private Little War" is one of those episodes I thought I'd tolerate during my re-watch of TOS since I was never a big fan of it growing up. Watching it now,I really enjoyed the episode because of exactly the points you made. There is no perfect solution in this episode.
Watching TOS episodes in quick succession, you realize that a quite a few stories end on a down note. Not every episode is them laughing on the bridge drinking coffee as the Enterprise leaves orbit.
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Are we all in agreement that "Rascals" is the TNG "Spock's Brain"? Just saw this again and it's almost unwatchable. Definitely a series low.
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Rascals at least has some redeeming moments (like Riker bullshitting the Ferengi). Shades of Grey? Code of Honor? The episode where Crusher fucks a ghost? Oh yeah, I'll watch Rascals any day over that.
(Fun trivia: Young Picard is played by the same actor that plays his nephew.)
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"Rascals" is, admittedly, not a particularly good episode, but it's still one of my favorites simply because of how ridiculous it is.
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Hah! I was wondering if that was the case!
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I actually liked Rascals.
I also kinda liked Code of Honor. I honestly don't think it's as racist as people say, but maybe it's because I come from a different culture with more tolerance to these things.
I've always thought that Picard is a bit more severe with the Prime Directive because of how many things the Federation could have caused during its first years and they eventually had to become more strict about it.
I also kinda liked Code of Honor. I honestly don't think it's as racist as people say, but maybe it's because I come from a different culture with more tolerance to these things.
The one I can't remember from TNG that is more similar is Symbiosis (the one with Wesley saying "ew, drugs"). Picard had a point saying they couldn't intervene, and Beverly also had a point saying they should.
I've always thought that Picard is a bit more severe with the Prime Directive because of how many things the Federation could have caused during its first years and they eventually had to become more strict about it.
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I always loved that ep because of how great the kids were at portraying their grownup selfs (except lil Picard). lil Guinan was the best.
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Shades of Grey is on my short list of least enjoyable trek episodes of all time.
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HA!
I was watching "Chain of Command" just now and there's a scene where Worf is trying to bypass this magnetically-sealed door:
I thought the symbol on his glove looked oddly familiar, and then I remembered my dad had worn similar gloves...
...when he went cycling. Thank you dad for wearing Pearl Izumi all those years ago!
I was watching "Chain of Command" just now and there's a scene where Worf is trying to bypass this magnetically-sealed door:
I thought the symbol on his glove looked oddly familiar, and then I remembered my dad had worn similar gloves...
...when he went cycling. Thank you dad for wearing Pearl Izumi all those years ago!
