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This is making me think of the fat joke on Andromeda:
That wouldnt be considered fat anymore :/
That wouldnt be considered fat anymore :/
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He was living vicariously through his son. I'll give him the Klingon upbringing I never had!
Lexx did it, too. Zev punched the groom for calling her fat and was converted to a love slave as punishment.
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Obviously, while Tilly appears to be human, she is actually a Blimpulon, who truly is healthy at any size.
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Honestly the kinda-sorta meta narrative behind the Enterprise D's shopping mall/white collar cul de sac schtick is something I am fine with.
In the context of the Federation growing complacent in its nigh hegemony after the TOS days due to its alliance with its biggest rival the Klingons now being firm allies, the Romulans going quiet for over a century and staying out of their way, the rapid advance of technology, and the general mapping out of most of the unknowns in that quadrant of the galaxy it works to suggest that having seemingly having run out of big nasty threats, the very nature of the federation has begun to grow soft, decadent, and even stagnant.
Accordingly military standards and discipline and technology became ever more sneered at by those at all levels of starfleet command and likely federation society who at best saw such things us unnecessary reminders of an inferior past, if not dangerous risks to the long peace they had all so enjoyed. This is why they happily signed away their right to build cloaking devices, why they happily let the cardassians off without consequence after launching unprovoked war against them and murdering civilians, and why their on-paper warships steadily became little more than a mishmash of scientific vessels, mobile cultural exchange stations, diplomatic cruisers, and straight up cargo haulers
This is why in seasons 1 and 2 of TNG you have the cast acting like such insufferably arrogant dicks about how smelly and stupid and pointless war and those who fight it are, and how they are strong enough to not need to prove themselves to lesser powers or prepare for contact with equal or greater powers.
Cue Q, Cue Cube
In the episodes after the galaxy's worst field trip until Janeway got her comission, there seems to be a little less snobbery in regards to starfleet's role as the one and only military force the federation has in the wake of the whole "insanely powerful army of assimliationist cyborgs making a beeline for the federation" thing, though Picard and friends still bristle at having to perform military excercises on starfleet orders towards the end of that same season, and by season 3 the enterprise is now regularly on war footing due to the resurgent romulans, but this aint enough to prepare them or star fleet for when the borg finally arrived.
After The Best of Both Worlds you see the old military structure rapidly re emerge in future episodes and later trek shows as the number of existential threats to the Federation start to grow almost exponentially, though the enterprise would keep the 80s mall shit going until they gave Councillor Troi the driving seat for long enough to crash it into a planet.
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He just told her to gobble cocks lol
Aww, Sev Trek. That was the first webcomic I can ever remember looking at. That shit got me in trouble in school.
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Alexander was 75% Klingon. His mom was half and half like Torres.
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Long ass rant but a good one.
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But that paid off because in the end, he ended up having an "Arthurian legend"-type experience himself where he redeemed his family's honor, and remained steadfast in the faces of the council. Plus, it was a cool redemption arc we never knew Worf would get to have. That makes him way cooler than Torres, in my book. Also calling fish people "a handsome race".
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Hello friend. Please read the next like 2 posts after the one you quoted me there. I've said it before, it's been a long while since I last watched early TNG. I admittedly don't always remember everything, but in this particular case I actually *did* eventually remember it, if maybe too late... see?
My original point was that Alexander was biologically more Klingon than Torres was, and was still somehow a shittier Klingon... Even though I did originally forget that Alexander's mother was half human (and I said as much), I think that point still stands...
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Winner winner chicken dinner.
Wasn't Alexander mostly raised by his doting (adoptive) human paternal grandparents, though? IIRC, the few times we see him on DS9, he's basically a sheltered kid fresh out of boot camp, trying to adjust simultaneously to full-on (not softened by filtration through his oddball parents) Klingon culture and military duty in the middle of the biggest straight-up shooting war in centuries. Under those circumstances, I think he can be excused for having some trouble finding his footing as a Klingon in comparison with Torres, whose formative experiences prior to joining the crew of Voyager included being raised by her very angry (Klingon) single mother and being part of a ruthless band of outlaw guerrilla fighters.
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It always annoyed me that Alexander would join the Klingon Navy. The dubious nature of his dual citizenship aside,* at the end of Firstborn, Worf's arc was accepting that Alexander should choose and if he didn't want to be a Klingon warrior, that was fine. I would have vastly preferred him to become a diplomat or a merchant or a lawyer or a chef. Have him be inverted Worf that way. Instead, Alexander is inverted when it comes to competence.Wasn't Alexander mostly raised by his doting (adoptive) human paternal grandparents, though? IIRC, the few times we see him on DS9, he's basically a sheltered kid fresh out of boot camp, trying to adjust simultaneously to full-on (not softened by filtration through his oddball parents) Klingon culture and military duty in the middle of the biggest straight-up shooting war in centuries. Under those circumstances, I think he can be excused for having some trouble finding his footing as a Klingon in comparison with Torres, whose formative experiences prior to joining the crew of Voyager included being raised by her very angry (Klingon) single mother and being part of a ruthless band of outlaw guerrilla fighters.
*By DS9 time, the alliance was only restored for about a year or two because Gowron needed a united front against the Dominion. He was the one who ended it to have his war with Cardassia in the first place.
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Alexander grew up to be the worst Klingon ever.
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And no,. STD 'Klingons' don't count. They aren't even real Klingons. They would much worse if they were.
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I believe you are right. She was one of the few Trek actors to not be part of that. Intresting enough I find out on star trek reddit a few years back. That she is apparently a "Fox News Republican" as they describe it there. So I guess it would make since. .
Also I belive Jolene Blalock wasn't apart of those every.
Wasn't he ill at the time through? I remmber my dad telling me that
I do love how they have to hide that they have a fat actress on the show
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She's also a christian.
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Is Trek strictly a left-leaning show? Star Trek has strong respect for the military; tends to look down on unwieldy governments. The biggest conflict Trek probably poses to conservative ideals is, I'd imagine, a strong anti-racist/anti-religious sentiment. Of course not all conservatives are religious bigots so that's somewhat besides the point.
Star Trek's idealized society is one in which the America analogue (Earth) is a perfect model and the best people are members of the military analogue (Starfleet).
Then you have Roddenberry himself. A mildly-swinging Southern Baptist with some hang-ups about Jews. He was definitely having some fun with stereotypes: he wanted the Ferengi to have huge penises, in addition to kidnapping Earth women, which is straight out of The Protocols.
(Of course, he was high as a kite at the time.)
Star Trek's idealized society is one in which the America analogue (Earth) is a perfect model and the best people are members of the military analogue (Starfleet).
Then you have Roddenberry himself. A mildly-swinging Southern Baptist with some hang-ups about Jews. He was definitely having some fun with stereotypes: he wanted the Ferengi to have huge penises, in addition to kidnapping Earth women, which is straight out of The Protocols.
(Of course, he was high as a kite at the time.)
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And don't forget: she won a marathon per the "writing" on the show.
Not participated.
Not completed.
Won.