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Bringing this to yalls attention because i hate all of you so goddamn much
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The butcher of the delta quadrant is back and more horrifying than ever
 
Judge Holden said:
The butcher of the delta quadrant is back and more horrifying than ever
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KJ Apa resemblence notwithstanding...

If they're going to cheapen the brand, might as well turn kids onto VOY. Janeway made some stupid mistakes, but I'd take ten of her over Mikey Spock.
 
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Judge Holden said:
Bringing this to yalls attention because i hate all of you so goddamn much
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24th Century gal with a (very) 21st century smirk.

Also, remember that Roxanne Dawson was the one that faggot Wil Wheaton hit on during a special episode of The Weakest Link. While she was married. She handled it with class of course.

As for Roddenberry, he did what all hippy/lefty/woke guys try to do. Used his philosophy to get laid. He got Nurse Chapel and I'm sure many, many more.

As for Tilly...are we sure that the term "marathon" wasn't changed to mean "pie eating contest" somewhere in the 22nd Century?
 
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UnKillShredDur said:
Hello friend. Please read the next like 2 posts after the one you quoted me there. I've said it before, it's been a long while since I last watched early TNG. I admittedly don't always remember everything, but in this particular case I actually *did* eventually remember it, if maybe too late... see?

My original point was that Alexander was biologically more Klingon than Torres was, and was still somehow a shittier Klingon... Even though I did originally forget that Alexander's mother was half human (and I said as much), I think that point still stands...
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It's all good just giving you solid info.

It always stuck in my hard drive because I read the 3rd mega crossover the novels did, "Day of Honor" where Klingons are supposed to recreate and celebrate a victory of their ancestors. Alexander in the TNG book recreated a sea battle on the holodeck one of his HUMAN ancestors was in.
jennifermist said:
Is Trek strictly a left-leaning show? Star Trek has strong respect for the military; tends to look down on unwieldy governments. The biggest conflict Trek probably poses to conservative ideals is, I'd imagine, a strong anti-racist/anti-religious sentiment. Of course not all conservatives are religious bigots so that's somewhat besides the point.

Star Trek's idealized society is one in which the America analogue (Earth) is a perfect model and the best people are members of the military analogue (Starfleet).

Then you have Roddenberry himself. I am not convinced he was a hippie of any stripe. He comes across as a mildly-swinging Southern Baptist with some fairly cranky views. He was definitely having some fun with stereotypes: Word is he wanted the Ferengi to have huge penises, in addition to kidnapping Earth women, which is straight out of The Protocols. Of course, he was high as a kite at the time.
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The more one looks into the ferengi and their backstories the more it's hard to claim Roddenberry was anything but a full on hippie.
 
Roddenberry flew 89 combat missions in the Army Air Forces in WWII and was a cop for the LAPD. That doesn't sound like a hippie to me. It always seemed the success of Star Trek is was made him go off the rails.

I think Gene hated religion because it condemned his favorite vices. He gravitated to the Free Love movement because he wanted to tap as much young pussy as he could and he wanted to abuse substances without judgement. I doubt he believed in the causes much, he just said what he needed to to get a girl's panties off.
 
jennifermist said:
Is Trek strictly a left-leaning show? Star Trek has strong respect for the military; tends to look down on unwieldy governments. The biggest conflict Trek probably poses to conservative ideals is, I'd imagine, a strong anti-racist/anti-religious sentiment. Of course not all conservatives are religious bigots so that's somewhat besides the point.

Star Trek's idealized society is one in which the America analogue (Earth) is a perfect model and the best people are members of the military analogue (Starfleet).

Then you have Roddenberry himself. I am not convinced he was a hippie of any stripe. He comes across as a mildly-swinging Southern Baptist with some fairly cranky views. He was definitely having some fun with stereotypes: Word is he wanted the Ferengi to have huge penises, in addition to kidnapping Earth women, which is straight out of The Protocols. Of course, he was high as a kite at the time.
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Well it depends honeslty. Most of the actors claim it was always left leaning political show. Well William Shatner insisted that it wasn't.

Well granted Hollywood is very liberal.
There's not that many right leaning actors in Star Trek other than Shatner, Dwight Schultz and Roxanne Dawson. That's all that I know of. Unless there's someone I'm missing? I think that's it

Most of the actors will claim it was always political and "right wing fans are too stupid to get it".

Edit: I just remmber I heard Max Grodenchik who played Rom is apparently conservative leaning. So that's four. Still I think that's it
 
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Travoltron said:
Roddenberry flew 89 combat missions in the Army Air Forces in WWII and was a cop for the LAPD. That doesn't sound like a hippie to me. It always seemed the success of Star Trek is was made him go off the rails.

I think Gene hated religion because it condemned his favorite vices. He gravitated to the Free Love movement because he wanted to tap as much young pussy as he could and he wanted to abuse substances without judgement. I doubt he believed in the causes much, he just said what he needed to to get a girl's panties off.
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Well that's just like 90% of every guy's motivation.

He was still pretty hippie-ish. It's just a sign of how far things have sifted that nowadays he seems almost nixonian.
 
Oats12345 said:
Well it depends honeslty. Most of the actors claim it was always left leaning political show. Well William Shatner insisted that it wasn't.

Well granted Hollywood is very liberal.
There's not that many right leaning actors in Star Trek other than Shatner, Dwight Schultz and Roxanne Dawson. That's all that I know of. Unless there's someone I'm missing? I think that's it

Edit: I just remmber I heard Max Grodenchik who played Rom is apparently conservative leaning. So that's four. Still I think that's it
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I think we just don't know for our deceased cast. Who knows about people like DeForest Kelley.

But there are others like Clint Howard and Kelsey Grammer, and Kirstie Alley seems to be anti-woke.
 
Travoltron said:
I think we just don't know for our deceased cast. Who knows about people like DeForest Kelley.

But there are others like Clint Howard and Kelsey Grammer, and Kirstie Alley seems to be anti-woke.
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Yea, something tells me that James Doohan, who stormed the beaches of Normandy and fought actual Nazis, would have a hard time thinking that suddenly 76-80 million "Nazis" appeared overnight in the US.
 
Travoltron said:
I think we just don't know for our deceased cast. Who knows about people like DeForest Kelley.

But there are others like Clint Howard and Kelsey Grammer, and Kirstie Alley seems to be anti-woke.
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Oh my bad I forgot that Kelsey Grammer and Clint Howard appeared in star trek episodes before. especially Kristie Alley who had a major role in the second star trek movie.

But good point who knows where guys like DeForest Kelly and James Doohan leaned.

Edit: for dead actors. Ricardo Montalban was conservative leaning.
 
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Flexo said:
And don't forget: she won a marathon per the "writing" on the show.

Not participated.

Not completed.

Won.
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Must have used a tuned mobility scooter.

Judge Holden said:
Bringing this to yalls attention because i hate all of you so goddamn much
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This looks like a cross between Janeway and Ruby Rose. Excuse me while I vomit profuiously.
 
Worf was an amazing character and that includes him being a shitty parent (at least at the very beginning of that arc). I think he was honest when he said Alexander would be better living with his grandparents, but I also think part of his reasons were that he didn't even want to try to be a parent. The right thing to do, at the moment, was telling Picard he had to go back to Earth with Alexander for about two months to help the kid settle down in a new place after his mom died. I'm sure he's entitled to parental leave and considering he's an amazing officer, he'd be granted that right.

But no, he's (or was) always trying to send the kid somewhere else like it's not his problem to raise him.
 
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