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They can't use stuff from the show, cause it will confuse Jay.
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I like the idea that Q has a glass jaw and is limited in how he perceives entities that are beyond normal time, so even if you don't have magic snap power he can't read your basic physical attacks
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I thought that the El-Aurian ability to perceive non-linear time was what let her see how Q performs his tricks. Perhaps the Q Continuum uses interdimensional transporters and replicators, but since they have a flair for the dramatic, act like illusionists while they perform their tricks. We know humans were able to mass produce the holodeck and all the technologies associated with it, after all. Q might have sent the crew to various holodeck programs at significantly higher definition. The Q might also be potentially be vulnerable to the Borg since Q did warn his son to not provoke them. Note that the Borg (in First Contact) do perceive more than three dimensions after they assimilated the El-Aurians.
Picard may have been more right than he thought when he called him a Flim-Flam man.
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You can bet that her people are all black while the Q are white. Kurtzman and his writers will probably do a remake of Fentanyl Floyd since the season is set in the 21st century.
As for the wisdom thing, well she was always written as a magical negro in TNG.
Yeah but they have to remind people that Orange Man = Bad.
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Thematically this goes completely against the lesson Picard learned in "Tapestry" but at the same time is totally in line with Season 1 of "Picard" which completely goes against the moral of "Measure of a Man" so I can see them doing this.
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You do know the feminist cunts who wrote Nu-Trek never saw TNG and self admittedly never liked Star Trek right?
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It seems like "brand strength" allows bad writers to keep getting work.
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These days its who you know, not what. Cronyism and Nepotism at its finest.
You know as well as I do there were at least 1000 better writers that applied and were all turned down on purpose. Regardless of whether or not they would toe the party line.
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Modern writers are like locusts, they'll ruin an entire franchise and then jump ship when they are done, but since they leave before the franchise falls apart, they always get on board new projects on their street cred of being the person that "worked on [big brand] while it was still popular" with companies not realizing that a brand becoming unpopular was the result of said person's writing.
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They should leave it unexplained. Not everything has to have an explanation. Especially when that explanation is going to be some thinly veiled social justice maxim that makes Q into some evil, racist existence hellbent on AIDS and old Trek is bad.
Screenshot this. Hit me up in a year.
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Borg Borg Borg because of course Borg
Terran Empire because of course. Now that could be cool if it meant that the mirror universe was affected also, changing to the 'good' universe, and Picard went to the mirror universe and asked for help because theres no hope of him even surviving without help in the newly fascist prime universe, much less fixing the mess he made. But him receiving help and fixing things would mean the mirror universe would go back to being 'evil.' That's the kind of moral quandary Star Trek used to explore.
So of course it will be some kind of basic bitch treknobabble space phenomenon solution.
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Are there 1000 better writers out there, though? Really? I pay at least some attention to webcomics and web fiction still (though never fanfiction, that's always been trash) and it doesn't seem like indie writing is any better than professional writing. If there really were all of these brilliant people being turned away in favor of woke writers or neopotism, why do none of them try to go solo? And/or why is it that the ones who do go solo end up writing the same dreck that we see in Hollywood?
There was a discussion earlier on in the thread about why TOS had such good writing, and that it was because the people who wrote for it and starred in it were older enough to remember The Great Depression, World War 2, and the spectre of nuclear armageddon throughout the 60s, and thus had a richness and perspective to their experience that later writers lacked. TNG and DS9 shared some of those writers, and many of the newer writers at least vividly remembered the Cold War.
Modern writers don't have much to fall back on. Even relatively intelligent people of the latest couple of generations have only book smarts at best and little practical realy world experience. Hell, can you guys think of any modern day SF or Fantasy writers/producers with military experience from recent wars like Iraq and Afghanistan? I'm sure there are some, but they don't seem to get very much attention.
Maybe we've reached a point where nobody can write anymore. Or maybe people can write, but they lack the experience to write anything good. I just don't buy the idea that there's some indie underground we're overlooking here because I haven't seen much evidence of it myself.
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You answered your own question.
They simply dont get as much attention as the troons and faggots who end up having threads on the farms via the weeb wars and so on.
Those types also infiltrate most groups just to start infighting or sabotage the project via the usual cries of wolves and purposely ruin anything even remotely interesting.
One of the most recent examples was the Destiny franchise:
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That still doesn't account for the lack of independent or one-man projects being a thing. Twitter is hardly efficient enough to cancel literally all of them.
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Yes, Guinan was teased early on as being much more than she appeared to be. Q seemed to fear her and acted as if she was dangerous. We were teased little bits of information about her people.
Then Generations happened and shit all over it. The only other member of the her race, named here as the El-Aurians, is Soran. And he never showed any of that supposed fearsome power. He was just some long-lived guy.
I'm not sure if it's in the completed film or not, but it was explained that Guinan's powers are not something endemic to her race, but is something that she received from her contact with the Nexus.
Then Generations happened and shit all over it. The only other member of the her race, named here as the El-Aurians, is Soran. And he never showed any of that supposed fearsome power. He was just some long-lived guy.
I'm not sure if it's in the completed film or not, but it was explained that Guinan's powers are not something endemic to her race, but is something that she received from her contact with the Nexus.
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An injury in the 21st century.... I can guess it's most likelly she'll have been shot by a cop for being black.
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To be fair, Guinan stopped showing any sign of power after that one scene with Q. She showed to be more sensitive to the time change, but that doesn't necessarily mean she's Q-tier powerful. There is a chance that perhaps her people could be more sensitive to time as a "fourth dimension" thing due to their longevity, but that's it.
As for the Q scene, it doesn't necessarily prove she's powerful, only that Q doesn't like her or her people and the sentiment is mutual (as it's for hundreds of species across the universe):
It's Guinan who says "I knew it was you" and Q is the one who says he can get rid of her, menacingly.
It's after this that Guinan raises her hands, and to me, looks more like she's trying to protect herself, but there is no indication she's gonna be successful. As far as we know, it can be a gesture similar to raising a crucifix or making the sign of the cross. I honestly doubt Guinan has any power to hurt or destroy Q in anyway. Q doesn't look remotely intimidated by her, only annoyed.
If we're gonna speculate, I'd say that the Q (or perhaps Q himself) tried to play the same game they play with Picard but with Guinan's people and they discovered that the best way to win the game is not paying attention to them:
"I gonna judge your whole race for their previous sins!"
"Yeah, whatever, judge away".
Q is a troll and Guinan seems like the kind of person who would never feed the troll.
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The irony now of saying "Q is a troll".
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It's not something I can prove, so I'm going to have to rely on personal anecdotes for why modern writers aren't a thing outside of Comicsgate.
1. Standard marketing issues. Everyone's heard of Stephen King or James Patterson or George R.R. Martin, but what about any other author? Haven't got a clue.
2. The education that goes into an English Major. Your typical undergraduate has to study textbooks like this one in order to graduate in addition to some classics. I could choose between Chaucer and Milton, which wasn't the case 50 years ago. These people are also the ones that join the college literary magazine (that no one reads).
3. The demographic of the college graduate. As you pointed out, the average grad is in their mid-twenties larping a middle-class lifestyle at Starbucks. Their stories tend to be about gossip and consist mostly about dialogue. I blame Hills like White Elephants for the overreliance on dialogue in literary fiction.
4. Literary magazines want to make pretentious art. These are the people that self-select into the book publishing business.
The result is that "successful" artists... are like Lindsay Ellis.
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