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And he ends up the best character that has the highest chance of scoring. Unless we're counting Mirror universe.
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That's a high bar to clear, but yeah he did eventually get with T'pol... and I see your point. He might actually be the chronological *first* person to "score" in a Trek show even. He got impregnated only a few episodes in...
He didn't have all that much competition though, Reed was gay right? And Travis wasn't going to fuck anybody ever. I think Archer wanted to fuck his dog, especially in later seasons.
I don't think Trip was the *only* Enterprise character to ever "score" though...
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In the episode where he and Tucker were adrift in the shuttle he (truthfully) talked about how T'Pol had a nice ass.
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A likely story.
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And Phlox asked him to swing with his wife too. That's three chances to score. Tucker takes up most of Enterprise's plots and maybe the other characters wouldn't be so bland if they spread all these weird Tucker stories to them.
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You know... I don't really like Phlox all that much. For me, it isn't so much that he's a creepy swinger that comes from a planet of other creepy swingers. But I don't forgive him for being the primary influence that made Archer say "Fuck the Valakians."
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I think women can't be starship captains in the same sense that they can't drive or do math or be funny.
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TOS sperging ahead.
My pick for dumbest and most offensive (to one's intelligence) episode is The Omega Glory by a long shot though. Accept no substitutes.
My theory is he scored with the chick who played the empath and has fond memories of that day.
Nimoy even clarified that the idea that women can't be starship Captains was not a misconception Lester had made because she was nuts, it was literal, and Gene spelled it out.
It kind of puts Shatner's hilarious overacting in the episode in a different light, and there are a few scenes where Nimoy looks visibly uncomfortable in the background which is really offputting since he's, you know, supposed to be Spock. Its clear neither of them thought much of the script.
Somewhat ironically the chick they got to play Dr. Lester does a pretty good job. She goes from hysterical lunatic to an honestly not bad Shatner impression when their minds get swapped. She must've really needed a paycheck that week or something.
Calling this the worst episode of the series is one of the most baffling things I've ever heard of to be honest. Its dumb, but its far more enjoyable than say, Bread and Circuses.
My pick for dumbest and most offensive (to one's intelligence) episode is The Omega Glory by a long shot though. Accept no substitutes.
Deforest Kelley named this as his favorite episode and I'm kind of not sure why. I tried my hardest to like it, but I dunno what he saw in it. Even Bones has way better episodes than this one, so he must've just really liked filming it or something.
My theory is he scored with the chick who played the empath and has fond memories of that day.
This episode is incredibly stupid but it gets some points from me for the performance of actor Michael Dunn, who played the midget in the episode. In particular there's a scene where his character relates how the other Gods/aliens treat him like a pet that they have fun abusing and honestly he looks like he's about to break down in tears. I know nothing else about the actor, but I'll be damned if there wasn't some reality subtext for that scene.
According to Leonard Nimoy in one of his books on the show's production, Gene Roddenberry was going through a messy divorce (extremely messy I would imagine considering how much of a manwhore he was) and literally every single thing you can interpret as sexist in that episode was sexist, deliberately sexist, and apparently the script was even worse.
Nimoy even clarified that the idea that women can't be starship Captains was not a misconception Lester had made because she was nuts, it was literal, and Gene spelled it out.
It kind of puts Shatner's hilarious overacting in the episode in a different light, and there are a few scenes where Nimoy looks visibly uncomfortable in the background which is really offputting since he's, you know, supposed to be Spock. Its clear neither of them thought much of the script.
Somewhat ironically the chick they got to play Dr. Lester does a pretty good job. She goes from hysterical lunatic to an honestly not bad Shatner impression when their minds get swapped. She must've really needed a paycheck that week or something.
This episode is incredibly boring and that's honestly the best thing anyone can say about it. Like The Omega Glory and Turnabout Intruder, its another episode that was mostly written by Gene. Imagine that.
I dunno if this one holds up, because the space hippies are portrayed as naive rather than willfully ignorant or self-superior. The only person who is truly delusional in the end is the leader who refuses to accept reality even when its staring him in the face. Spock of all people is the one to give in and join the hippies with his lyre thing, which is a good scene but its almost totally out of character if you ask me. Its not hard to sympathize with Kirk on this one, but at the same time he kind of has nothing to do.
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I would place "The Omega Glory" over all the other shitty episodes you listed for the fact a totally different planet with a totally different set of cultures evolving...had once written an exact duplicate of the United States of America Constitution...in English!
Ain't nobody got time for dat.
As for DeForest Kelly's take on "The Empath"...it was the one episode where HE was the main character.
Ain't nobody got time for dat.
As for DeForest Kelly's take on "The Empath"...it was the one episode where HE was the main character.
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Even so, the episode doesn't really do a whole lot with him though. Arguably he gets more characterization in The Man Trap but I suppose people write that one off because of how early it was in the show's run.
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@Kornula - You know what... I'm not a narc, and I don't give a shit about reporting people for violating whatever rules there are that exist. I didn't tell on you to daddy null, or anyone else here who cares about this for that matter, but double-posting is frowned upon here and yet you keep *triple*-posting for no reason even. Just condense it into one post, even if you're talking to multiple people, it's a lot less obnoxious that way.
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The most ridiculous thing in The Omega Glory is how the cavemen (except the main guy) have fantastic hair. Look how much product is in those perms! Also, the cavepeople are extremely weak to psionics since Spock can mind meld from a distance in this episode. A literal planet of soft-brained hair boys!
I only know Michael Dunn for Doctor Loveless and what I love is how his height doesn't actually affect his performance. The Peter Dinklage of his day. I thought he was wasted in this episode.
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Don't forget her self sealing stem bolts.
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Trip is bi a lot of things but lingual isn't one of them.
Seriously, though, WTH is the point of that episode? Phlox was depicted as a deviant while Trip was totally disgusted by everything he did. ENT doesn't know subtlety and they can't even do a good straight romance.
Walter was pissed because Chekov wouldn't consider rekindling his old flame. It kind of hinted at a rebellious past but didn't lead anywhere.
"Way to Eden" serves as a reminder that Trek has always been predominantly conservative. An otherwise worthless episode.
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okay CLOWN COLLEGE
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Really? Insulting my username? That's all you got?
Honestly that second intro song to Enterprise really turned me off to the series for a number of years. It just didn't fit very well with the overall tone of the series. Yes, yes I know that's a bit nitpicky, these days I can just skip the the intro so I've warmed up to Enterprise a little more.
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Really? Insulting my username? That's all you got?
To be fair, its not a great name.
I mean Clown College? Pfft, you can't eat that.
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An animated series definitely has a lot potential. You can make a lot of designs for aliens, ships, or places that would be either impractical or impossible to do in a live action series. Since you do not need sets built for filming and VAs as a general rule usually cost less than live action actors, you could have a small budget, but still have some interesting visuals.
The main question I would have is would the animation style be western or anime? I would prefer a western style, but then we would most likely get another Lower Decks instead of something good like a Bruce Timm or Gennady Tartakovsky stylized series. If we go with an anime style, you could do something like Space Battleship Yamato 2199 where the ships are computer generated, but the characters are still hand drawn or a series in the completely hand drawn style of Cowboy Bebop or Outlaw Star, but I do not know if those styles can be done today without an unlimited budget due to most anime today relying on some or a lot of CGI during animation.
With streaming sites on the internet today, you do not have to be limited to only airing on cable TV like TNG. Now you can do a series in a variety of formats ranging from anthologies focusing on different events, people, and ships during TNG similar to The Animatrix or Halo Legends, a long OVA series with lots of different long plots and character arcs like The Legend of Galactic Heroes, or something more traditional like TNG, but animated. I would start out with a few anthologies and, if a particular short becomes popular, expand on it and possibly have it branch off into its own series. Plus with an anthology, you can have a variety of styles and plots and see what works and what doesn't work.
However, I have to remind myself that when thinking of how to reboot an old series is equivalent to wishing on a monkey's paw. I am sure a lot of people wanted more Star Trek after Nemesis, but I don't think for the most part that Discovery and Picard was what they had in mind or wanted.