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Judge Holden said:
the official Season 2 trailer for Picard
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It's somehow more soulless than the first season. (:_(
Of course Dr Jurati is not in a prison cell because vagina.

EDIT 3: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we have another patented giAnT uniVERse enDInG CAtASTroPhe oNLy oUr HEroS CaN sTOp storyline, implied to be involving alternate timelines because guess thats the last idea for this shit they have not yet tried
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Well, they fucked up the main universe so the only way to forget that the first season and the Reapers existed is by switching to another timeline.

JamesFargo said:
I don't fault Ryan and DeLancie for needing a quick paycheck. I have to wonder what is going on in Stewart's overcooked noodle.
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Yeah but Ryan is a cunt for saying that she prefers her character in STP than VOY.

Judge Holden said:
2. Some evil conspirators within the federation evilly hate this new perfect world and so engineer the change in history to make drumpf win 2020 to make the federation an evil fascist dictatorship: again im probably expecting too much to assume this will be a direct reference to star trek 6 but it seems pretty inevitable given the storyline I suspect they are gonna go with
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They will probably do something with the Section 31 again and a shitty allegory for the huwite supremacists hiding under everyone's bed.
Also something about Soyfleet/Federation (it's the same for Kurtzman) being the real enemy, not the peaceful aliens.
 
Radical Cadre said:
I don't understand why you would give a show to people that don't like the premise and intentionally want to ruin the things the original fans of the show liked. It's vindictive and parasitic. What did Star Trek and its fans do to these people?
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We didn't let them sit at our lunch table. We were the geeks before geeks were cool, bad haircuts and glasses, eating sandwiches our mothers made for us while poring over the TNG Technical Manual and the Nitpicker's Guide. We should have been grateful for the attention. We should have been enraptured by these creative souls. But we denied them. Imagine how much that burned, to be rejected by nerds. "I should've been their king," Kurtzman fumed. "One day, I will be their king!"

Miller said:
Yeah but Ryan is a cunt for saying that she prefers her character in STP than VOY.
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She's also a cunt for letting Barack Obama become President. She should've just gone to the sex clubs and kept her mouth shut. Marriage is about compromise. I'm sure she dragged him to wine tastings or plays or something equally repulsive. Just do it a few times a year, lie about how much fun you had, and drive on.
 
She's also a cunt for letting Barack Obama become President.
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And the Illinois GOP are retards for nominating Alan Keyes. :story:

Keyes is constantly going on about how gays will be the downfall of humanity, and he referred to Hillary as an opportunistic carpetbagger before doing the exact same thing.

Miller said:
Also something about Soyfleet/Federation (it's the same for Kurtzman) being the real enemy, not the peaceful aliens.
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They seem to be emulating TLJ: The idea is that security risks can resurrect old problems. But to many, it was preachy, boring, and out of place.
 
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Radical Cadre said:
I don't understand why you would give a show to people that don't like the premise and intentionally want to ruin the things the original fans of the show liked. It's vindictive and parasitic. What did Star Trek and its fans do to these people?
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Standardized Profile said:
We didn't let them sit at our lunch table. We were the geeks before geeks were cool, bad haircuts and glasses, eating sandwiches our mothers made for us while poring over the TNG Technical Manual and the Nitpicker's Guide. We should have been grateful for the attention. We should have been enraptured by these creative souls. But we denied them. Imagine how much that burned, to be rejected by nerds. "I should've been their king," Kurtzman fumed. "One day, I will be their king!"
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These people grew up thinking nerds were the losers. At the same time, media told them the nerds grew up victorious at the end while the nerds became successful.

The truth is that none is either true or false, both nerds and bullies can grow up being normal or fail. But they haven't moved on from that phase and they resent nerds for their own failures.
 
Tasty Tatty said:
Sounds unrealistic. Nobody's a lesbian.
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You're right. We'll establish Soji as non-binary pan-sexual. It will be stated a few times. Not be relevant to anything. At some point, the robot doctor lady will have a lesbian relationship with that Raffi. Which will lead to Raffi reconciling with her son. Who turns out to be in a throuple with another alien. Their baby will be a mix of all of their genetics. At some point we'll get given a lecture that the notion of natural reproduction is an outdated concept. No barriers to anyone who wants a kid. Which will end up mentioning something like, "since the first artificial uterus implantation in 2043, the notion of traditional gender roles in reproduction has become archaic. "

Picard will re-unite with a former male lover from his younger days and be a couple together at the end of the season.
 
Radical Cadre said:
I don't understand why you would give a show to people that don't like the premise and intentionally want to ruin the things the original fans of the show liked. It's vindictive and parasitic. What did Star Trek and its fans do to these people?
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They feel that they know better than the fans. There is always a play of snobbery in these circles here.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
John DeLancie looks like he's still got it. I fear how the script is going to butcher his character.

And jfc, Patric Stewart sounds horrible. He's mumbling and slurring his lines, he genuinely sounds like he's stuck between a stroke and alzheimers, the poor sod.
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The guy's 81 next month.

DeForest Kelley was 67 when he appeared in TNG

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James Doohan was 72
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Bill Shatner was 63 when he starred in Generations, and it was already stretching credulity and his girdle to get him to do basic action scenes.

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Patrick Stewart looks ok for a guy who's probably gonna die soon, but there's a lot of things an octogenarian should be doing with the precious final years of his life, and being in a shitty streaming show about how bad Brexit Drumpf are isn't one of them. Guy should be playing with his grandkids, or popping Viagra and then enjoying a heart attack while setting phaser to sexy on his young wife

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Sexual Chocolate said:
being in a shitty streaming show about how bad Brexit Drumpf are isn't one of them. Guy should be playing with his grandkids, or popping Viagra
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Chabon should be charged with elder abuse.

Frakes and Sirtis are cheap tricks. They are so hyped about it, so positive toward it, so sure of its success and standing behind it... until it fails. First with Nemesis and then with "These Are the Voyages..."

If Frakes passes the buck again, I will lose my shit.:jaceknife:

Maybe he forgot about the behind-the scenes extra for Insurrection. I haven't. Everyone from Frakes down through whole cast just talked about how much fun it was to work on Insurrection, like it was summer camp. Nobody had a damn thing to say about the script.
 
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JamesFargo said:
You can tell r/StarTrek is banning swaths of criticism, including RLM content. (Muh nuance... - mods)
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I see that they have gone the way of r/TheLastOfUs, with being unable to take criticism. Does a subreddit where criticism of the Star Trek franchise exist though, like other criticism subreddits such as r/Freefolk, r/SaltierThanCrait, r/TheLastOfUs2, etc.
 
Radical Cadre said:
I don't understand why you would give a show to people that don't like the premise and intentionally want to ruin the things the original fans of the show liked. It's vindictive and parasitic. What did Star Trek and its fans do to these people?
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The famous quote "Do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny."

That also includes burning down everything you've loved, especially a show that was popular with and gave a positive outlook on the future.
 
AcidityLiquidity said:
especially a show that was popular with and gave a positive outlook on the future.
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I think the key difference here is that in Piller's time, the writers are approaching the story from a science-fiction mindset. They are drawing from observable upheaval in society and concluding how it would play out in the future.

Nu Trek has references to sex every couple of feet to make sure you're awake. It's not an avenue to meaningful questions but something you switch on in the background before calling it a night. Result: a 30-year-old episode of Star Trek looks more futuristic and imaginative.

Picard supposedly has higher production costs. It's a cheap-as-shit production compared to The Expanse, even though Expanse is the cheaper show. Where's all the money gone?
 
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JamesFargo said:
Picard supposedly has higher production costs. It's a cheap-as-shit production compared to The Expanse, even though Expanse is the cheaper show. Where's all the money gone?
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and given that the action is supposed to take place in current year and Jeri Ryan seems to wear the Borg prosthetics half the time, it looks like it's going to be cheaper in season 2.
 
Sexual Chocolate said:
DeForest Kelley was 67 when he appeared in TNG

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They put makeup on him to make him look like the 111 his character is supposed to be.

JamesFargo said:
I think the key difference here is that in Piller's time, the writers are approaching the story from a science-fiction mindset. They are drawing from observable upheaval in society and concluding how it would play out in the future.

Nu Trek sees it as a Netflix drama... with some lens flares glued on, and references to sex every couple of feet to make sure you're awake. It's not an avenue to meaningful questions but something you switch on in the background before calling it a night.

It's that William Gibson quote about CP2077: You see Scotty and Keensar clubbing like it's Night at the Roxbury and shouting into a phone, and you think, "Hollywood agent." Picard supposedly has higher production costs. It's a cheap-as-shit production compared to The Expanse, even though Expanse is the cheaper show. Where's all the money gone?

Result: a 30-year-old episode of Star Trek looks more futuristic and imaginative.
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Watch this.
 
JamesFargo said:
I think the key difference here is that in Piller's time, the writers are approaching the story from a science-fiction mindset. They are drawing from observable upheaval in society and concluding how it would play out in the future.

Nu Trek sees it as a Netflix drama... with some lens flares glued on, and references to sex every couple of feet to make sure you're awake. It's not an avenue to meaningful questions but something you switch on in the background before calling it a night.

It's that William Gibson quote about CP2077: You see Scotty and Keensar clubbing like it's Night at the Roxbury and shouting into a phone, and you think, "Hollywood agent." Picard supposedly has higher production costs. It's a cheap-as-shit production compared to The Expanse, even though Expanse is the cheaper show. Where's all the money gone?

Result: a 30-year-old episode of Star Trek looks more futuristic and imaginative.
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30 years ago, they just wanted to make a tv show about humans in the future.

Now, the purpose of the show is to lecture current day humans on how bad we all are and how the producers and actors of the show are better than us.
 
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