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Roddenberry insisted that in HIS future, no one will need pockets. I'm not kidding.
Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier
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He was a marketing genius ("No hunger, no greed, all children will know how to read"), but sometimes he leaned too much into it.
Pockets hold things besides money, dumbass.
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Damn, Eddie Quist got old.
Robert Picardo saved what was salvagable out of Voyager, more so than Jeri Ryan's tits. Change my mind.
Damn, Eddie Quist got old.
Robert Picardo saved what was salvagable out of Voyager, more so than Jeri Ryan's tits. Change my mind.
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They can literally carry the show by themselves, like in that episode where the crew have to go into hibernation to survive a radiation cloud.
No wonder Mulgrew can't hide her irritation.
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I mean yeah technically, but Family Guy used to be fucking hilarious. Before it originally got canceled (after season 3 I believe) and even a few seasons after it came back, it was still a pretty good show.
I do agree it's shit now and has been for a while, but in my opinion, The Orville isn't anywhere near that bad yet... (Last I heard it isn't getting another season after this one either, so it probably won't ever become that bad.)
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I still respect your campaign to kill all humans, but no. I do *not* thank you for sharing this.
One of his more recent videos is this:
I am absolutely not getting into a vaccine debate in the Star Trek thread (there are other threads on here where I might...), but Bill Nye is a hack and a fraud, and his obsession with "butt stuff" is still alarming to me, this many years later... Picardo's decision to be seen with this fraud in the first place would absolutely make me think less of him. Meh
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I hate to interrupt this forced death march into vaccine hysteria, but it reminded me of something:
Did any of you see Star Trek: Renegades? It is, regrettably, not very good, but Picardo has a cameo in the middle. He reprises Dr. Zimmerman, who is banging Sean Young. On Jupiter.
Can't find a press photo of them, but here she is with Walter:
Thank you, internet, for engraining the "step on me, mommy" meme in me.
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I'm not going there, not right now, and especially not tonight. That wasn't even my primary point.
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I did see Renegades and it definitely qualifies as a Best of the Worst kind of movie. It's crazy because Tim Russ also made Of Gods and Men, which had a much more solid script because it wasn't trying to be an action script.
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OK, now I want to see RLM review the Trek fan films.
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He was far and away the best character on the show before 7 of 9 got there. After that...it was a little more up in the air, but he was what held the show together before her inclusion made it better.
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I don't think TMP is that bad, but I do agree that the execution is flawed. Looks like it suffered what many current movies suffer from too: "look all these new FX we can do, we're gonna shove them all down your throat for you to enjoy how talented we are at them!" The opening view with the Klingon ships is superb and really helps to set the mood. But then, the next similar scenes are just tiresome. I had to FF them.
Now, the plot is good. When I first watched it, I was really shocked by the reveal of who Vger was.
Now, the plot is good. When I first watched it, I was really shocked by the reveal of who Vger was.
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Picardo was sort of a deal with the devil for the show, becuase he had a great personality and really took his work seriously, but it got to the point where almost every other episode was about the Doctor and his ego slowly going from meme to like, all there was to his character. They seemed to notice this and reeled it in with a few different episodes that took him down a peg in various different ways. Some of which are actually really solid episodes on their own too, not just good for the novelty. But the show often still ended up revolving around him just by default because the other characters were so bland.
I found the weakest part of Renegades was its terrible dialogue. I feel like you could raise the average person's opinion of the show by like half if you just gave people less corny lines to say.
Otherwise the general premise of the show is solid enough to me. Can't violate the Star Trek rules with a straight laced crew? Easy solution, just make you main characters a bunch of weirdos. Yes, I'm aware Picard tried to do this, probably trying to imitate the precious few decent ideas still floating aorund right now, but I think we all know that Star Trek Picard can't do anything right by now.
The characterization is weird and messy, but then again its a pilot. I don't think there's a single pilot/very early episode of Trek where that isn't a problem.
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Someone compared it to 2001 earlier which I don't really think is fair, since that was meant to be a slow, arty (or you might even say pretentious) film and not to make much sense on first viewing, while TMP seemed to want to be an action picture while having a sometimes glacial pace. So 2001 succeeded better at what it was trying to do.
That said TMP is still mostly solid and has some amazing scenes, like the horrifying transporter malfunction scene, and a generally good plot with a nice twist.
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My appreciation for TMP has grown over the years. The story is solid if languid (and a pretty much straight lifting of "The Changeling"). It was good to see where the characters were after the series, so it has some interesting lore. Shatner is Shatnery good.
The main problem for me is the cold, almost antiseptic nature of the ship, the uniforms and SOME of the interactions between characters. For example, "It's how we feel Mr. Spock"...followed by Spock ignoring Uhura and literally turning his back on her. But then you have the wonderful scene of Spock telling Jim that human touch is beyond V'ger's comprehension.
It's not a good movie for edgy takes in my opinion. It's not "trash", not even close. It needs a decent edit for sure. And its big problem is how it suffered in comparison to "Wrath of Khan". But at its core it remembered that it was Star Trek and not Star Wars. And I think, especially in retrospect, that's a good thing. Especially when you see where thinking that ST is SW ultimately leads - to JJ Trek. And while there are enjoyable elements OF the first JJ Trek movie, it's ultimately disposable entertainment. Bubble gum. The themes of TMP are a little deeper and stand the test of time a little better in my opinion.
The main problem for me is the cold, almost antiseptic nature of the ship, the uniforms and SOME of the interactions between characters. For example, "It's how we feel Mr. Spock"...followed by Spock ignoring Uhura and literally turning his back on her. But then you have the wonderful scene of Spock telling Jim that human touch is beyond V'ger's comprehension.
It's not a good movie for edgy takes in my opinion. It's not "trash", not even close. It needs a decent edit for sure. And its big problem is how it suffered in comparison to "Wrath of Khan". But at its core it remembered that it was Star Trek and not Star Wars. And I think, especially in retrospect, that's a good thing. Especially when you see where thinking that ST is SW ultimately leads - to JJ Trek. And while there are enjoyable elements OF the first JJ Trek movie, it's ultimately disposable entertainment. Bubble gum. The themes of TMP are a little deeper and stand the test of time a little better in my opinion.
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That's why I went to see it in an Imax theater, because the funhouse ride aspect of it was going to be the only really good thing about it. It's fun but I remember practically nothing about it.
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At its core, it's a rejected Guardians of the Galaxy plot without the humor, focus (we see Corrin Nemec a lot in a movie like this) and the stakes are Earth... once again. It's also a movie embarrassed to shoot master shots. Rewatch the last scene of the pilot and you notice just how cheap the furniture on the bridge is. The chair I'm literally sitting on looks more like a Captain's chair than the office chair Adrianne Wilkinson has to sit on in the last scene. The lack of wide shots in general was to cover up the cheap sets, but the consequence is every scene feels claustrophobic. Chekov's granddaughter's death scene suffers because it's all just tight close-ups with no medium shot balance it out.
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yeah I finally watched Silent Running from start to finish recently, as opposed to "ehh, I got ten minutes until the next show comes on" on cable in the day.
It's pretty good stuff. I like how they don't pull punches on the hippy is totally psycho
iirc the origins of the movie was "the 2001 crew finally figured out how to do Saturn"
yeah it's more a spoopy castle movie
it does have some really great compositing and other technical shit, and the backgrounds are very nice in HD
but yeah it's pretty clunky and "what did those other movies do? okay do that. oh and put in a part where they're on a ride, we might refit Space Mountain"
iirc there's a few spots of adding TAS ships to replace shapeless blobs of light
I thought the remasters were pretty solid. I'm glad to watch the originals too, but the remasters do some nice things.
I recall around the time of the remasters there was this TOS coffee table book of various frames of film blown up and a writeup on the opposite page, had a lot of cool technicolor zap rays and shit, very nice showcase of the early effects
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Mike doesn't have a leg to stand on after Space Cop.
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