Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

we're rapidly approaching a point where they will no longer be able to use the GCW because:
You can always have stories about the different parts of the Rebellion building up and fighting the Empire, but then you'd need to have plots about icky adult stuff like logistics and politics instead of constantly wallowing in self-important misery porn.
Me remembering being a kid and people joking about Jabba raping slave Leia with his tale.....
There's a difference between dumb kids making edgy jokes about it and actually showing in an official TV show.

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I still don't get the comparisons to the Wannsee conference brought up that exist to just be like "uh oh is fascism". It had more in common with Iraq and how an excuse had to be made to invade the country to secure the oil. It's just that instead of oil its stuff for the Death Star. I guess the left has abandoned all their rhetoric about colonisation to go instead about fascism.
Well it doesn't help that the left sides overwhelmingly with the same people who were the architects of the Iraq war like Dick Cheney now. It can't link back to anything like that, it has to be about Trump.
 
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I still don't get the comparisons to the Wannsee conference brought up that exist to just be like "uh oh is fascism". It had more in common with Iraq and how an excuse had to be made to invade the country to secure the oil. It's just that instead of oil its stuff for the Death Star. I guess the left has abandoned all their rhetoric about colonisation to go instead about fascism.
People have compared the scene to other media depicting the Wannsee conference and it neatly matches. When Krennic brings up no notes, that everything is going to be kept secret, the Wannsee conference was the first thing that popped into my head.

But there are more analogs than just the Wannsee conference. Iraq invasion, American Indian displacement, deforestation of the Amazon, etc.

The whole storyline with Ghorman is going to demonstrate the cruelty of the Empire. Rather than pour resources into developing a kalkite substitute or searching the galaxy for a planet that has easily extractable kalkite, the Empire will displace an entire civilization and destroy a planet to obtain it. The Empire will do this because the option is available to them. The Empire, being the evil bastards that they are, chooses the option which will inflict the most suffering. They are in control and can get away with it.
 
It's just so funny to me about all the people twisting their nuts about the attempted rape scene on a farm, when so many horrible things have happened to people in Star Wars. People have been sliced up like deli meat, disintegrated painfully, shot, stabbed, had their arms ripped off by angry Wookiees, eaten by Rancors, put in electric force cages, blasted by lightning, painfully turned into cyborgs, had their wangs burned off by lava, or even had their very souls or life energies ripped from their bodies with the Dark Side of the Force. And that's not even getting over the fact that a Skywalker killed children TWICE.

Also, in a culture that encourages abuse of power like the Sith or their many empires, the idea that some people in power might exert their power over others by sexual abuse isn't really out of the question. I wouldn't be that shocked if some stories of Sith acolytes or slaves had them getting raped by their masters. And it's not just them. The Hutts dress up their female slaves like skimpy whores for a reason; it wouldn't be that surprising at all if the Hutts or their men play around with these women now and then.

It reminds me of what Alan Moore once said about rape in comics; comic authors had no problems killing off characters in gruesome ways, but somehow they draw the line on rape. Comic book characters, like Star Wars, were originally marketed to kids. Yet they had no problems turning these properties into snuff films. I mean, shit, just look at how many Stormtroopers fucking die when fighting Mando, and that's a kid-friendly show with the cute little Baby Yoda on display. Yet the dude sends more people to the grave than an actual plague.

The most I'd have done to change the scene is have Bix say "that pig hurt me and tried to force himself on me!" That way, it'll fly over the heads of the kids in the audience, while the adults will know what almost happened.

People have compared the scene to other media depicting the Wannsee conference and it neatly matches. When Krennic brings up no notes, that everything is going to be kept secret, the Wannsee conference was the first thing that popped into my head.

But there are more analogs than just the Wannsee conference. Iraq invasion, American Indian displacement, deforestation of the Amazon, etc.

The whole storyline with Ghorman is going to demonstrate the cruelty of the Empire. Rather than pour resources into developing a kalkite substitute or searching the galaxy for a planet that has easily extractable kalkite, the Empire will displace an entire civilization and destroy a planet to obtain it. The Empire will do this because the option is available to them. The Empire, being the evil bastards that they are, chooses the option which will inflict the most suffering. They are in control and can get away with it.
That, and as the propaganda guys pointed out, the Ghormans have been thumbing their noses at Imperial regulations. So at that point, it's basically a big fat "FUCK YOU" to a wealthy system that's been a thorn in the Empire's backside. Notice how they're not screwing over a world like Eriadu or Pantora, worlds that are deeply loyal to the Empire. The Empire is very selective on the worlds they make an example out of. Kashyyyk and Mandalore? The natives rebelled against them. Alderaan? They've been funding rebels behind closed doors. Working with the Ghormans has been a bureaucratic nightmare for the Empire, so the Empire doesn't give a fuck if they have to deport close to a million Ghormans for their energy plans.

Also, the Empire had been trying to make kalkite substitutes or a synthetic version of it, but as Krennic said, all plans for that have yielded zero results, so they're forced to rely on the Ghorman plan. Krennic notes that they've been tearing their hairs out over the whole kalkite issue, and the plan to deport the Ghormans is there, just in case all attempts to make kalkite substitutes fail. If the stars align and they somehow make a kalkite substitute, they'd probably leave the Ghormans alone. But the Ghorman Massacre needs to happen, so I highly doubt they'd succeed in finding a substitute.

Of course, the main plan is to relocate them, not just kill them all outright. I suspect that once the Ghormans give a big fat middle finger to the Empire and its plan of relocation, Tarkin will appear and land his ship on top of the protesters, starting the Ghorman Massacre, and that will be the start the Alliance proper. Especially since Tarkin is on the whole Death Star plan, and he would be involved with getting resources for it. He'd also be the kind of guy who wouldn't care if he has to slaughter a million people. So he wouldn't think twice about turning a plan for deportation into a massacre.
 
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Agree with every word of your post, it's really frustrating not being able to put this into words to my film snob friends.

I've actually thought a lot about this, and I think a lot of it stems from a difference between kids who grew up gaming (real games in 3d that made you feel like you were in a world) and older Gen Xers.

A lot of older star wars fans from the 70s and early 80s seem to only care about the message and story purity of star wars, or the "film quality" and shit. A lot of them liked TFA despite it's soullessness. For those of us born in the late 80s or 90s, we have this obsession with expanded universes. There were some GREAT star wars games in the 2000s and other great EU content that was just as important to us as the movies.

It's telling that the most successful star wars game was battlefront, which is just about having battles with cool guns in interesting locations. George lucas understood this as well, the fight through theed palace is a new unique place for a battle, we had never seen urban combat in a SW movie. Geonosis showed us a full scale WW1 style front, The order 66 montage in ROTS showed us how diverse the types of combat were going on, it's all just stuff begging to be made into a video game or lego sets, the kind of shit you want to see more of. Lucas also goes out of his way to give you a good look at things, everyone knows what the vehicles and "arenas" of his movies are like because he lets the shots breathe and gives them nice clean angles.

Everyone, even haters, remember what the clones, the acklay, the reek, naboo, battle droids, clone gunships, and all this shit looks like and what it was called because it's visually clear and referred to properly, and the things they're involved in are cool and interesting. That's how you make people buy action figures and video games.

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Meanwhile disney wars is always so "cinematically" lit (ie half the screen is pitch black) with close up shots, constant cutting, and fast paced shit that makes retards thing it's intense.

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What do you remember from Disney wars? Member the big tentacle monsters that are crammed in a hallway? Member stormtroopers but fatter? Member ATATs but fatter? Member, uhhh... those crumbling shit heap things that glid along on the snow and die accomplishing nothing? Member the security guards from casino planet?

All the fucking planets are "huge empty place with one noteworthy object".
Huge empty salt field with a cliff base.
Huge empty desert planet with a shanty town.
Huge ocean with an island.
Huge rock planet with a temple.
Have. Fucking. Mercy.

There's also the "competence" angle, this changed a bit in the prequels but in the OT both sides felt competent, like adults fighting other adults, people you could look up to as a kid. Disney wars feels like children fighting dumber children.

These people in charge of disney wars just don't understand this at all. They thing star wars fans want to see a lightsaber, and a story about how oppression is bad and underdogs are 100% right all the time while anybody who wants order is evil.
 
We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch! We had Lucas, we had the expanded universe, we had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork! You could have shut your mouth, watched just the originals and enjoyed all the expanded material you wanted! it was perfect! But no! You just had to keep hating those prequels! You, and your pride and your need to repeat RLM's opinions! You just had to be the funny man! If you had enjoyed what you had, known your place, we'd all be fine right now!


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Geee, almost like the kind of character who fans could really enjoy reading adventures of in a mature universe. The kind of character that would become a visual icon of coolness. A character fans could cheer for while also not quite being sure what he would do next... who explores moral grey zones without being a sack of shit. Somebody interesting but also hopeful, Somebody who makes a great main character for a series.

Sounds like the perfect direction to take an immediately recognizable iconic character who's associated with coolness.

or.... you know.... this:

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We just wanted to see Boba going around the galaxy, taking jobs, sometimes meeting with a familiar face, fucking shit up and then taking off inside Slave One like a professional badass.

Was that asking too much?
 
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Off topic, but after seeing this in theaters after so long, its actually pretty Kino. Even with some of the dialogue. Did Lucas just have a tard wrangler for this movie?
I think he just got to his stride and figured out how he wanted to tell the story. Sad it took 3 movies, but what can you do.
 
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Off topic, but after seeing this in theaters after so long, its actually pretty Kino. Even with some of the dialogue. Did Lucas just have a tard wrangler for this movie?
No tard wrangler needed. George Lucas wasn't as retarded or incompetent as the MSM and Disney fans have made him seem for decades. He knows how to make a movie even if he's made a few questionable decisions, everyone makes some questionable decisions every now and then.

On the subject of RotS being in cinemas again, I'm MATI right now because my theater has it playing all fucking week and it's sold the fuck out entirely. Every seat for every showing for everyday is sold out. I guess I'll just go neck myself while everyone else in my area happily watches RotS in theaters. Now I wish everyone still hated George Lucas so I could have a chance to see this movie. I've never seen this kind of hype for a movie in my entire life, and that includes when RotS was brand new. Literally everyone alive on the planet is chomping at the bit to see this fucking movie.

That being said, I think Disney is making 100% of the money from this and George is getting nothing which does make me not want to give my money to Disney anyway.
 
All the fucking planets are "huge empty place with one noteworthy object".
Huge empty salt field with a cliff base.
Huge empty desert planet with a shanty town.
Huge ocean with an island.
Huge rock planet with a temple.
Have. Fucking. Mercy.
Completely agreed. This is to me also the gist of the problem with why Disney Wars just never quite hits the mark even when the stories are sometimes okay. SW always had very simple stories and two dimensional characters. The real appeal was the world. SW has uniquely distinctive elements like the light sabers, light vs dark side, memorable alien designs, mix of old and worn designs wit new and shiny etc. It makes it easy to imagine your own story in the setting. That's what fuels the obsessive fandom and why PT despite it's flaws led to a new renaissance of Star Wars media and fandom , because it hugely expanded the setting.

This is completely gone in Disney era. You perfectly summed up the issue with planets, everything is the same backwater shithole. The media that most perfectly highlighted this to me is the Outlaws game. I watched a video showing all the game areas and they are literally all the same, just same backwater towns but some have grass and others have desert etc. It's not like a fucking video game is limited by the budget, they could've done ANYTHING, created any kind of crazy environments. Everything else in the game looks utterly dull too. The game really embodies current Lucasfilm idea of what Star Wars should be, including the bland female protagonist with cutesy pet.

Another good example are outfits. Go look at the outfits in the different movies and shows and you can see how similar they are. For example, these are from three different shows:

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It's not even that the outfits are bad, they are very well made. But why do three completely different cultures from three different planets dress so similarly? And it's all these very down to earth designs, muted colors, I mean the clothes look like real life folk costumes. There's nothing space opera about them. Not to mention everyone is just humans (perfectly racially mixed populations of course).

Similarly, I made a quick comparisons for sith costumes/designs. In Disney era they all just look like Vader rip-offs, while the pre-Disney era had much more variety:

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And it goes for every single design element in the franchise.
Cool new ships? Nope, just new variations of the old designs.
Cool new aliens? Nope, everything looks like brown potatoes.
Cool new character designs? Nope, bland ugly humans.

They've sucked all fun and creativity out of Star Wars.
 
No, George had a plan the entire time and even started filming RotS during the filming of AotC. RotS is just a good movie and George Lucas knew what he was doing.
The Prequels were made with each movie building up on each other, showing the slow decline of the Republic as it became the Empire, and why people would support the Empire after years of political deadlock and war.

I've actually thought a lot about this, and I think a lot of it stems from a difference between kids who grew up gaming (real games in 3d that made you feel like you were in a world) and older Gen Xers.

A lot of older star wars fans from the 70s and early 80s seem to only care about the message and story purity of star wars, or the "film quality" and shit. A lot of them liked TFA despite it's soullessness. For those of us born in the late 80s or 90s, we have this obsession with expanded universes. There were some GREAT star wars games in the 2000s and other great EU content that was just as important to us as the movies.

It's telling that the most successful star wars game was battlefront, which is just about having battles with cool guns in interesting locations. George lucas understood this as well, the fight through theed palace is a new unique place for a battle, we had never seen urban combat in a SW movie. Geonosis showed us a full scale WW1 style front, The order 66 montage in ROTS showed us how diverse the types of combat were going on, it's all just stuff begging to be made into a video game or lego sets, the kind of shit you want to see more of. Lucas also goes out of his way to give you a good look at things, everyone knows what the vehicles and "arenas" of his movies are like because he lets the shots breathe and gives them nice clean angles.

Everyone, even haters, remember what the clones, the acklay, the reek, naboo, battle droids, clone gunships, and all this shit looks like and what it was called because it's visually clear and referred to properly, and the things they're involved in are cool and interesting. That's how you make people buy action figures and video games.
There's also the fact that many of these Prequel-hating Gen-X people also dismissed 90% of the Star Wars EU as fanfiction. They might've read a few books they liked, but to them, most of it was bunk. They also dismissed the greater scale and the new things brought by the Prequels with cries of "it's not like the OT, it's all plastic and CGI, it sucks!" You essentially have weaponized ignorance being used to slander George Lucas' Star Wars at a time when it was breaking beyond its original borders of playing "Cowboys and Indians" in outer space with WW2 aesthetics.

You have to realize, these people don't want to see Star Wars as anything but what they remember from the OT. They want the same thing over and over again. These same people who hated the PT and the EU came around to cheer for the Sequels shamelessly copying the OT without any of the substance. They cheered on Lucas selling Star Wars to Disney, they didn't care that the SWEU was demolished to make room for the Sequels and Disney's other projects.

Then they turn around and act as if Andor was the first time Star Wars was made for poli-sci students, while I still remember that time when an Onderonian official and a Republic soldier were debating in a cantina back in KOTOR 2, with them discussing the merits and pros and cons of Onderon staying with the Republic. A lot of the things that these Gen-Xers think is new for Star Wars, Star Wars was already doing it with the SWEU two decades before. These people are really that brain-dead. Between political intrigue, adventures without Jedi or Skywalkers, or even the whole Mando-fanaticism, that shit already existed two decades ago for Star Wars.

These morons literally are behind everything that went wrong for Star Wars. Hence why I blame them more than Disney. Disney's leaders are just corporate whores who suck up to anyone willing to open their wallets, and when Disney destroyed most of the SW universe, the loudest voices in the room were these PT-hating whiners, who had few, if any, dissenting voices to drown them out.

Imagine, if you owned Disney during that time. You just bought Star Wars despite knowing nothing about it, and these whiners were the loudest voices in the room. They hated Lucas and the Prequels, they didn't give two flying fucks about the SWEU, and they want the "old Star Wars" back. What would you have done? Appease them, of course. So you get rid of that SWEU that they don't give a fuck about to make more room for movies that will be just like the OT, to "wash away the stain of Lucas' Prequels" from the franchise. And guess what, these morons loved those moves and cheered Disney on, so what would one expect Disney to do but go forward? And even when Star Wars started to go under, they sure as fuck won't hand it back to the smelly nerds, since they're disgusting in the eyes of the Hollywood elite and the average normie.

And it goes for every single design element in the franchise.
Cool new ships? Nope, just new variations of the old designs.
Cool new aliens? Nope, everything looks like brown potatoes.
Cool new character designs? Nope, bland ugly humans.

They've sucked all fun and creativity out of Star Wars.
Another good example are outfits. Go look at the outfits in the different movies and shows and you can see how similar they are. For example, these are from three different shows:
Similarly, I made a quick comparisons for sith costumes/designs. In Disney era they all just look like Vader rip-offs, while the pre-Disney era had much more variety.
You no longer have nerds making shit for Star Wars. You have "professionals" doing it. These professionals like to copy and paste things to save time, hence the copy-paste outfits for different shows that take place in different eras, as well as every Inquisitor looking like a Darth Vader knockoff, and the ships, aliens, and character designs remaining the same to avoid cost.

Nerds like to ask questions like "wouldn't it be cool if there was a special division of Stormtroopers that hunt rebels and have their own specialized capital ships and TIE Fighters?" (Rebel Strike) "Wouldn't it be cool if the Empire had its own power-armored troops?" (Dark Forces) "Wouldn't it be cool if the Empire created Dark Jedi supersoldiers?" (Jedi Outcast/Academy) "Wouldn't it be cool to have an ancient civilization with a Tower of Babel-style fall, and they had great achievements that merged the Force with technology?" (KOTOR 1) "Wouldn't it be cool if you had a Sith sect that specialized in killing Jedi, and their leader can wipe out a whole planet with the Force?" (KOTOR 2) "Wouldn't it be cool if the Mandalorians were a warrior race that literally worship the very idea of conflict, and they nearly brought the galaxy to heel?" (Mandalorian Wars)

Professionals don't ask those questions. At most, they copy notes from older stuff and add a few things. Like how they took inspiration from the Wannsee Conference in the recent Andor episodes. Or how they made the Children of the Watch be inspired by Orthodox Jews who have a stick up their ass about rules. Hell, just look at Jedi Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor. They bring nothing new to the table, just making a Souls game with lightsabers, yet the best they can come up with is you dueling Vader's thugs for a holocron that you end up destroying, or your side getting fucked by an ISB plant.

Meanwhile, back then, you blew up the Empire's Space Marine program with the Dark Troopers, (Dark Forces) or you executed Order 66 and wiped out the Jedi, (Battlefront 2/ROTS game) or you threw Vader in your locker room after kicking the shit out of him and his Dark Jedi goons. You might've even introduced the Emperor's face to the floor in that battle in the Death Star. (Force Unleashed 1 and 2)

You basically traded the extraordinary for the mundane, and you even see it in the new shows emphasizing the mundane over the extraordinary. Andor is about the day-to-day dealings of the Rebels. The new shows coming out will deal with the day-to-day dealings of figures such as Ventress, Cad Bane, and Maul. They're officially distancing themselves from the grand adventures of the Skywalkers that shape the galaxy, and they're going more along the lines of the average pleb. It's almost like the Jedi and the Skywalkers are a dirty word for them.

I'd rather have rapes in my Star Warz than the pathetic pussy shit that was in the tard fest that was Rebels.
One thing that struck me about the Empire in both Andor and Rebels is that you're not allowed to see them as cool. Either they're a complete fucking joke aside from Vader and Thrawn, or they're the banal kind of evil who plan mass-murder while passing around cakes and wine. I mean, I was expecting at least a battle scene of the Empire crushing the shit out of the Rebels and showing why they're the big swinging dicks of the galaxy, but no. Such examples are rare, like that one scene in Rebels where three TIE Interceptors crush a small Rebel convoy, or that other scene with Hera's fighters getting shot down by regular TIEs. Or that one riot in Ferrix at the ass end of Andor Season 1. And maybe if you squint, the bombing of Mandalore in the Book of Boba Fett might count.

I suppose given Star Wars' new owners, they can't allow you to see the Empire as cool, meanwhile, there's no shortage media from the Empire side that made them look cool; like the campaigns where you play as the Empire in Rebellion or Empire at War, or in novels where Vader takes on more than one Jedi and comes out on top, like he's the Empire's version of 2003 Grievous. Hell, even in games where you do fight them, they look cool, like how X-Wing has a scene of them conquering an entire planet with ease, or Dark Forces showing them dropping Dark Troopers onto a planet and easily rolling them over. Hell, more than one of the SWTOR trailers has the Sith Empire coming out on top, and looking cool while doing it.

I just miss the days when both sides are allowed to look cool, and even though they took inspiration from real-world factions, they could still be their own thing. You don't need to be a Confederate sympathizer in real life to like the Confederacy of Independent Systems, nor do you need to be a Nazi-lover or an enthusiast for the old British Empire to like the Galactic Empire. Now? Openly profess that you love the Empire, and people will think you're a fascist. I miss the days when mainstream society didn't give a shit about this stuff, and we nerds were allowed to say who we like without being called a Nazi or something.
 
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It's not even that the outfits are bad, they are very well made. But why do three completely different cultures from three different planets dress so similarly? And it's all these very down to earth designs, muted colors, I mean the clothes look like real life folk costumes. There's nothing space opera about them. Not to mention everyone is just humans (perfectly racially mixed populations of course).
It's a combination of wokeness and a trope that disney has had since it's inception.

Low tech = good. Culture = tribal native americans/niggers/muslims. Uniformity = bad.

Disney always had a degree of this in their movies and combined with wokeness worship of savages it was just a no brainer. Design choices aside, there's a TON of other ways this type of crap manifests:

Spirituality = hippie vodoo shit, no sense of honor or Abrahamic themes allowed (despite being common in Lucas wars).

Young people = smarter than old people. Of course kids don't want people to look up to, they want to feel like they're the best in the world! Only cater to the most toxic self assured personality type.

Rifles = bad, The good guys can use pistols because they're kind of personal defense weapons and the stuff criminals freedom fighters use against ebil pohleese. A rifle is a bit to close to an ar-15 assault rifle, a weapon capable of wiping out entire armies with a pull of the trigger, unlike pistols which are not capable of killing people (except nazis which is okay). This generally extends to tanks, and anything cool looking, you think the new republic should have a standing army? What are you a nazi? More on this in the spoiler below.

Native inhabitants = good. Using a technological advantage against people who already live in a place is evil evil bad bad. Natives are incapable of deciding to do evil things on their own, it's only capitalism and civilization that makes people evil. Even if they cook and eat people that's just their way and should be respected (Nevermind the fact that if it came to sending feds from DC to destroy a homophobic white christian town in the louisiana woods the average wokie would be all for it). Humanizing the tuskens was a laughable attempt at this, they raped and killed anakins mom and attacked luke for no reason. KOTOR was the first to try and humanize them but did it in a more nuanced way and allowed you to kill them if you wanted without too many DS points.

War = bad. Oh boy I can't wait to get into this one, This one right here is a huge part of why disney wars has failed.
The moment my friend told me that disney had purchased star wars this was my first fear. The disney brand has always been against the glorification of war and star wars is at it's core war porn.

I'd wager 99% of young boys who saw star wars as a kid thought the guns, tanks, ship combat, and all that was just as cool as lightsabers and the force.
Old West Combat
Fencing
WW2 mixed unit combat
Vehicle combat
Capital ship combat
Dogfighting
Rifles, pistols, rockets, swords, bunkers, tanks, walking tanks, orbital bombardments, it's all cool as shit.

Disney was never going to be able to give this part of the audience what we want because that might heckin encourage people to join the army. Add in the woke influence and it's over.

It's for this reason that outside rogue one, none of the combat that happens is interesting.
In the OT we got
Hallway CQB
A trench assault
Woods Infantry Warfare
Dogfighting

IN the prequels we got
Urban combat in theed
Large Scale battle with bubble shields forcing CQB
An gladiator fight
A massive scale warzone on geonosis with mixed infantry, vehicles, and air
Dogfighting
Capital ship warfare
An Amphibious assault
A dozen different arenas in the order 66 scene, each which would become a well known planet from a 10 second shot alone.

In the sequels we get
-A raid on maz's temple where han shoots some guys
-The casino security guards getting shot by coins from bb8
-the salt flat speeders charging towards atats dying accomplishing nothing while some generic troops (who dissappear at some point?) hide in a trench
-A bunch of horses running on a deathstar in the pitch black

Disney really treats the war scenes like this thing they just have to get out of the way and they REALLY hate doing them.

And while not really directly related, i'm really tired of seeing this fucking face.
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Eyeswide, Mouth slightly opened with a bitchy scoul to indicate they're focused and actively thinking and very competent determined strong yaaaaas kwweeeens! Never smile either, smiling is weakness chud. Stop making this fucking face, there are other ways to make your characters seem compotent, give your characters a human fucking emotion and teach your stupid fucking shitty actors to act.
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Holy shit so many things about disney wars piss me off.
 
It's just so funny to me about all the people twisting their nuts about the attempted rape scene on a farm, when so many horrible things have happened to people in Star Wars. People have been sliced up like deli meat, disintegrated painfully, shot, stabbed, had their arms ripped off by angry Wookiees, eaten by Rancors, put in electric force cages, blasted by lightning, painfully turned into cyborgs, had their wangs burned off by lava, or even had their very souls or life energies ripped from their bodies with the Dark Side of the Force. And that's not even getting over the fact that a Skywalker killed children TWICE.
This is such a stupid argument: "Star Wars exists, and [thing] exists, so [thing] should be in Star Wars." No concept of theme, tone, or history.

Hell, you know what else exists? Especially when Disney is concerned? Gays. Next Star Wars show should have an explicit anal sex scene, complete with the guys painting each other's faces for the money shot. What's that you say? That this is a wild tonal disconnect from the Star Wars IP and diametrically opposed to the space opera beloved by millions that was once the greatest science fiction franchise in the world? Well, I don't know how to tell you this, chud, but gay people are real and have anal sex all the time, so if you can't handle realism in your sci fi, maybe you should go watch something a bit more your speed, like Paw Patrol. Star Wars is a mature franchise now, handling mature topics, and if you don't like it that just says everything i need to know about you, sweaty.
 
I still don't get the comparisons to the Wannsee conference brought up that exist to just be like "uh oh is fascism". It had more in common with Iraq and how an excuse had to be made to invade the country to secure the oil. It's just that instead of oil its stuff for the Death Star. I guess the left has abandoned all their rhetoric about colonisation to go instead about fascism.
And the conference was the only thing that was actually good about this weeks episodes
 
Just watched the episode.
She wasn't raped but was attempted to have been.
So all you Kiwi Karens can put your tits back in your bras

"As long dick didnt meet vagina, it was A-Okay, relaaaax."

Gesh, you are speaking like a Hollywood producer trying to calm down parents after their child had "private meeting" with one of their directors.
 
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Off topic, but after seeing this in theaters after so long, its actually pretty Kino. Even with some of the dialogue. Did Lucas just have a tard wrangler for this movie?
The actors were very familiar with what Lucas intended for them by then so could deliver them more firmly due to the experience; the writing is still real horrible at times (So love has blinded you right after both of you express love for example). It also isn't dragged down as much by the very fucky romance angle and it's a tighter film. Some of this was due to George paying attention to what criticisms existed then and adapting to them, as well as remembering how fucked Phantom was in the dailies.

I still have issues with it, and the big one is actually I don't like how long the final duel between Anakin and Obi Wan was. Way too long, got too ridiculous in scope, it was a predestined outcome which kills the interest, and was only that way due to George wanting to set a record for sword duels.

It's IMO the worst part of the film since I just zonk out for some of it, but it's still a decent to good film. I rate it similar to Return in some respects, since while I think Return has better segments, the weak second act puts it about at Revenge's level for me.

As for the Andor rape thing?

Like I said, I'd expect it to exist in the setting on some level. The EU's done it before, especially near the end where it went coked out post Vong. In this case, it's being used to display how crushing the grip of the empire is and the leeching of the dark side into its being when ordinary soldiers feels that they can get away with it.

I just think the journoscum article and the showrunner's dumb take for the failing media's article was a stupid decision.
 
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