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I also did not hate the idea of Anakin having a Padawan to teach, and at times Ahsoka was a fine character.
my main complaint with her is that she needed to die near-ish the end
that way there's no questions about "where the fuck was she during LITERALLY EVERYTHING" and it helps to sell Annie's issues about losing those close to him
 
my main complaint with her is that she needed to die near-ish the end
that way there's no questions about "where the fuck was she during LITERALLY EVERYTHING" and it helps to sell Annie's issues about losing those close to him
Honestly Ahsoka could've been fine dying in Rebels being killed by Vader as a way to destroy the last attachment Anakin is aware of, but nope Dave can't put his action figures away so time travel is a thing in Star Wars
 
Honestly Ahsoka could've been fine dying in Rebels being killed by Vader as a way to destroy the last attachment Anakin is aware of, but nope Dave can't put his action figures away so time travel is a thing in Star Wars
Have Ahsoka get captured by Vader, have her get tortured by him to try to turn her to the Dark Side, (the way Darth Malak did it to Bastila Shan) then Vader learns he has a son and puts Ahsoka aside despite making some good progress. The OT happens, then Vader's ghost tells Luke about Ahsoka. Luke visits Vader's magma palace on Mustafar, finds Ahsoka half-feral and insane from all the torture, Luke beats the shit out of her, then uses the Force to "cleanse" her mind the way Talzin did with the feral and half-insane Maul when Savage found him. Ahsoka returns to normal, and becomes Luke's first recruit for the New Jedi Order.

There you go. I just solved how Ahsoka could've lived through the OT without being a part of it.
 
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"Too steeped in Star Wars lore"

Well how did having someone who knows nothing about Star Wars turn out for Disney?
I took "too steeped in Star Wars lore" to mean that his head is too far up his own ass to make a decent Star Wars show that people will like. Dave Filoni has been a dictator of Star Wars behind the scenes for a while now, Andor is probably the only thing that doesn't reek of Filoni. It's crazy because when you look at all the content in Disney Star Wars I bet Filoni was responsible for about 85% of the lore that exists in Disney Star Wars. He wants to skinwalk as George Lucas but he fucking sucks. Hopefully people have started calling him out for his stinky shit.
 
Andor takes a big, fat sledgehammer to that, and tells you that the squeaky-clean Rebels were glory-stealing cunts, and that the true "Rebels" who saved the galaxy are backstabbing assholes who have no problems killing their own people for the cause.
I don’t see that. You have to remember that Tony Gilroy didn’t give a fuck about the lore. He remembers the original trilogy, but I’m sure that anything outside of that was ignored. He was depicting how revolutions develop with Andor, using Star Wars as a lens to explore the concept.

To me, it’s an examination of the dirty part of revolution. Look at the American Revolutionary War. The narrative is about militia rose up at Lexington and Concord, or General Washington crossing the Delaware. Less praised are the tarring and feathering and property destruction of British tax officials. The treatment of British loyalists are not given mainstream attention. There was the spying and criminal skullduggery.

The Sons of Liberty were doing what could be considered terrorism, but they were part of the foundation that led to the establishment of the United States of America.

Luthen’s Axis is Star Wars version of the Sons of Liberty.
 
Less praised are the tarring and feathering and property destruction of British tax officials.
Speak for yourself, that's one of my favorite parts of the Revolutionary War.

Also, the British were the enemy so it makes sense that we would fuck them up but in Andor the rebels are killing each other and backstabbing each other. What's up with that?
 
Speak for yourself, that's one of my favorite parts of the Revolutionary War.

Also, the British were the enemy so it makes sense that we would fuck them up but in Andor the rebels are killing each other and backstabbing each other. What's up with that?
Spanish Civil War didn’t ring any bells? Tony was exploring all revolutions.
 
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my main complaint with her is that she needed to die near-ish the end
that way there's no questions about "where the fuck was she during LITERALLY EVERYTHING" and it helps to sell Annie's issues about losing those close to him
The main thing that drives me insane is:
Her intended death was fucking Kino.
Rebels was a retarded series with muslim space aladin, but Annakin's former padawan facing down Darth Vader to buy time for the founders of the Rebellion to escape is bad ass on so many levels.
It not only shows just how far Darth Vader has gone, literally killing a part of his former life as a jedi, and we're shown Vader hunting down one of the approximately 12 billion Jedi who survived (the supposed) Order 66.
She dies nobly, her death having meaning.
And it would cast absolutely zero shade on her skills of a Jedi that she loses to Vader.
It was an excellent character death, a good way to end a character arc, and removes any linger questions about her fate during the Rebellion.


But Furlonli needed to goon to orange jailbait puss so he forced the space-time anus into star wars.
 
"older" as in ahsoka is like 17 not 14 or something. idk what age she's supposed to be whether it's tcw or rebels her show tbh, other than she's jailbait in tcw
I think she was canonically 16 when it happened. & the scene was creepy in context - Ahsoka was pretending to be Lux Bonteri's fiance (hiding her Jedi status), and Bo was like "but why? She scrawny, not thicc".

This compilation of all Bo Katan scenes on Youtube is interesting, since it illustrates how Disney Star Wars fundamentally misunderstood Bo's character (as she was portrayed in the Clone Wars - i.e. a sociopathic terrorist) to make her a good guy in the Mandalorian show.
 
I think she was canonically 16 when it happened. & the scene was creepy in context - Ahsoka was pretending to be Lux Bonteri's fiance (hiding her Jedi status), and Bo was like "but why? She scrawny, not thicc".

This compilation of all Bo Katan scenes on Youtube is interesting, since it illustrates how Disney Star Wars fundamentally misunderstood Bo's character (as she was portrayed in the Clone Wars - i.e. a sociopathic terrorist) to make her a good guy in the Mandalorian show.
Yeah, it's really funny how she gets to cause the downfall of her entire civilization in both body and soul. First by helping to depose her sister and then the soul by losing the Darksaber in battle.
 
Spanish Civil War didn’t ring any bells? Tony was exploring all revolutions.
Yes, and in that war, the Spanish Republicans were killing Catholics, who were the majority of people in Spain, causing the people to side with the Nationalists, killing the Republicans. Translated to Star Wars, imagine if the Rebels began killing everyone who believed in the Force, Light or Dark, and this drove the Force-believing galactic populace into the arms of the Sith and the Empire, who protected them by killing all the Rebels.

I don’t see that.
That's your problem. I can differentiate from the Rebellion as it was portrayed in the Original SW films and EU, and the way they're being portrayed now. Both Gilroy and Filoni have destroyed them. The Rebels suffered a worse character shift than even the fucking Mandalorians.

You have to remember that Tony Gilroy didn’t give a fuck about the lore. He remembers the original trilogy, but I’m sure that anything outside of that was ignored. He was depicting how revolutions develop with Andor, using Star Wars as a lens to explore the concept.
Even the Original Trilogy had the Rebels remain squeaky-clean. Leia saw Han as an outcast because he was self-serving scum, and Luke openly sacrifices advantages for the sake of saving those he loved. The OT Rebels were political idealists who believed in things like honor, truth, and justice. Someone like Cassian Andor would've been regarded as a renegade by them. And they would trust Luthen as far as they can shoot him.

Revolutions that develop through terrorism end in terror; as we see in the French Revolution. If Andor was being realistic, Palpatine's death would lead to the kind of chaos, betrayal, murder, and slaughter that would make anything Tarkin did look like a joke in comparison. Then Thrawn retakes the Imperial throne and makes a new Empire that is even more tyrannical and more powerful than Palpatine's Empire ever was, as a response to Luthen's rebellion throwing everything into chaos.

Thrawn would find Palpatine's proverbial crown in the gutter, and he'd pick it up with his proverbial sword. That's where Andor's revolution should've ended.

To me, it’s an examination of the dirty part of revolution. Look at the American Revolutionary War. The narrative is about militia rose up at Lexington and Concord, or General Washington crossing the Delaware. Less praised are the tarring and feathering and property destruction of British tax officials. The treatment of British loyalists are not given mainstream attention. There was the spying and criminal skullduggery.
We learned a lot of the tarring and feathering of the tax officials, even at school. That, and we also learned much of how Spain and France carried the war, not the Continentals. If the Bourbons decided to turn a deaf ear to the woes of Washington, the American Revolution would've ended in failure. We'd just be calling it the "colonial rebellion" and we'd just be talking about how stupid it was that they rebelled.

The Sons of Liberty were doing what could be considered terrorism, but they were part of the foundation that led to the establishment of the United States of America.
I'm sure tossing tea into the harbor is not the same as shooting your own allies or pushing a population to rebel, knowing they will lose and get massacred, just so you can bitch about it. The Continentals picked their battles and their allies wisely. Andor's rebels did not.

Luthen’s Axis is Star Wars version of the Sons of Liberty.
False. The Sons of Liberty didn't betray their allies the way Luthen fed the Separatists to the Empire to protect his ISB mole, or the way Luthen killed said mole to cover his tracks. They actually honored their alliances with parties like the French Bourbons.

You could trust the Sons of Liberty. You can't trust Luthen's Axis network for shit. The shit they put Lonni through, only to kill him like a punk, shows that they can't be trusted. They do all that horrible shit, just so they can recreate the same clown show we saw in TPM that couldn't even reign in local powers, let alone enforce laws. What a fucking joke.
 
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