Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[LovisXVI]

Wanted to buy the Thrawn trilogy but apparently they're emptying the stocks of the good editions to make some shitty SUPER NONCANON LEGENDS EXPANDED TRILOGY BOOK 1 OF 3 THRAWN OMEGA LUCAS OOUOUHRUUU version with 5 individual fucking banners on the cover.

It's nuts how they keep doubling down on it being non-canon yet also updating it constantly to make more money.

While annoying they have at least released a bunch of unabridged versions of the audio books where abridged only existed previously.

 

[AbduluCthuluZulu]

JJ's only entries in SW are a shallow ANH copy and a poor man's Dark Empire. Hardly similar in terms of engendering loyalty.

Not to mention JJ already had a poor reputation going in. He was already known as the funny "mystery box" guy and people still remembered his previous trainwrecks like Lost's later seasons.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

Not to mention JJ already had a poor reputation going in. He was already known as the funny "mystery box" guy and people still remembered his previous trainwrecks like Lost's later seasons.

JJ Abrams gets too much shit for Lost. He only had anything to do wwith he first season. Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindeloff were responsible for everything after that. And Lindeloff went on to the EXACT same thing as Lost with The Leftovers in terms of creating a super interesting mystery and answering almost none of it.

 

[AbduluCthuluZulu]

JJ Abrams gets too much shit for Lost. He only had anything to do wwith he first season. Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindeloff were responsible for everything after that. And Lindeloff went on to the EXACT same thing as Lost with The Leftovers in terms of creating a super interesting mystery and answering almost none of it.

Yeah, and the exact same thing happened with his sequel trilogy. He made the first part, then fucked off and let some other hack write rest of the story for him. This is his "mystery box" storytelling in action, or more specifically, what it truly is if you don't believe his attempts to wax poetic about it. At the end of the day it's just an excuse for him to not commit to anything. He puts in a fraction of the work but still rakes in all the dough.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Not to mention JJ already had a poor reputation going in. He was already known as the funny "mystery box" guy and people still remembered his previous trainwrecks like Lost's later seasons.

There was also the fact that the Trekkies openly hated his Trek films, so that was already a bad sign. The normies loved his Trek films, but the actual Trek fans hated them; almost like a prelude to how normies and fans of SW would react to The Force Awakens. The normies saw an entertaining picture; the fans were aghast that the Original Trilogy was rendered as important as Naruto filler once TFA rendered their events and conflicts pointless. Now, only the PT matters, since in those films, the Sith kill the Jedi and the Republic, and come TFA, the Jedi and the Republic stay dead.

DATTEBAYO!

 

[Adamska]

Not to mention JJ already had a poor reputation going in. He was already known as the funny "mystery box" guy and people still remembered his previous trainwrecks like Lost's later seasons.

That's more to Star Trek I think, because the Kelvinverse was his for the first, and then they made that horrible one Into Darkness. That also didn't help.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I'll do you one better: you can kill the Dragon, which is often weaker defensively than the creator is. Shenron was destroyed by Piccolo Daimao, who as the dark half of the Nameless Namekian, was weaker than Kami was since he was simply his inner shadow, the darkest parts of his heart. That does the same thing as killing them, and it's up to the Guardian/Elder to rebuild it with their personal statue replica of the Dragon.

It's easier to kill the Guardian, especially since it kills the Dragon as well, and you don't have to gather seven Dragon Balls just to kill one Dragon. Also, if you kill the Dragon, but the Guardian is still alive, the Guardian can easily make a new one or revive the old one, like what Kami did to Shenron after Piccolo Daimao killed the latter. With killing the Guardian, all you need is a guy or a robot with a high-caliber sniper rifle, a jetpack, and an itchy trigger finger. You don't have to gallivant across the world to gather all seven balls to do something that the Guardian can easily reverse.

Yes, the anime where death is a slap on the wrist has more limitations on it than the setting where it's seen as a good thing to let go of life when it is your time and be one with the cosmos.

Star Wars was originally designed to have death as permanent; the only ones who cheated death are Darths Vitiate, Sion, Sidious, and Andeddu, and since they did it through the Dark Side, it probably wasn't a pleasant experience on their behalf. Since the Dark Side was partially based on the dark magics of fantasy stories that came before, many of which portrayed Dark Magic as something that hurt both the user and the victim, I'm willing to guess that Palpatine and Vitiate weren't having such a good time hopping from body to body, with the former even succumbing to clone madness, whereas Sion clearly didn't have a pleasant time and was even becoming numb to life itself, to the point where death was a sweet, pleasant release for him.

 

[draggs]

Yeah, and the exact same thing happened with his sequel trilogy. He made the first part, then fucked off and let some other hack write rest of the story for him. This is his "mystery box" storytelling in action, or more specifically, what it truly is if you don't believe his attempts to wax poetic about it. At the end of the day it's just an excuse for him to not commit to anything. He puts in a fraction of the work but still rakes in all the dough.

The real JJ Abrams mystery box is what are you supposed to do with the story after he fucks off

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

That's more to Star Trek I think, because the Kelvinverse was his for the first, and then they made that horrible one Into Darkness. That also didn't help.

Into Darkness was also a JJ Abrams movie. That's the movie that proved the Kelvinverse wasn't viable for many reasons.

 

[Ghostse]

That's more to Star Trek I think, because the Kelvinverse was his for the first, and then they made that horrible one Into Darkness. That also didn't help.

The Kelvinverse was fucked due to the Viacom/Paramount split and while I will readily shit on JJ for anything, I don't blame him for the NeoTrek being utterly fucked. He didn't help matters thats for sure, but when you are handed a load of bread and a turd, there is only so much you can do.

The real JJ Abrams mystery box is what are you supposed to do with the story after he fucks off

Its easy: have the next guy figure out what's in JJ's mystery box.
Next guy does a good job polishing JJ's shit: See that's what I always planned, they read my notes blah blah blah
Next guy does a terrible job: Well I didn't pay much attention to what happened after I moved on got excited for next project. But it sounds like he didn't follow the notes I, a brilliant writer, left for him.

As I said before and will say again:
Roundhead did the only winning move which was to just smash the mystery boxes JJ handed him to bits to show they were always empty, and that is the only respect I will give that fart-huffing dickless cuck.

The whole "Yass Queen Slay" shit would work if there was something appealing to both sexes. Something relatable; something attractive. Maybe both. People didn't mind it when you'd have an OP woman crushing everything in her sight, whether she was a heroine or a villain. Nobody talked shit about Yor from Spy X Family or Shego from Kim Possible, despite the fact that both of them were women who were far stronger than the men of their universes and could whoop 95% of all men in their settings.

What you are describing are just tough women, not Girlbosses.
No one has any issue with Ripley going full 80s action hero on an Alien hive because she's just being a protagonist.

A Girlboss is used a perfect infalliable soapbox to inject modern genderpolitics and shoe horn in talking points about modern sensibilities.
There is a differnce between Wonderwomn beating the shit out of Darkseid, and Darkseid rallying his army of "deplorable creatures" in red helmets to storm the capitals of earth, when confronting Wonderwoman saying "You are just a worthless, wea woman" and then Wonderwoman using whatever feminist slogan is en vogue as she punches Darkseid until the boomtube collapses and says "Times up!" as she punches him back. Then whips her hair back and says "Oh, and by the way, Transwomen ARE real women"

Ripley didn't storm the Alien hive and then say "Well that's what you get for underestimating a woman".

 

[Blonrad Blurze]

JJ Abrams gets too much shit for Lost. He only had anything to do wwith he first season. Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindeloff were responsible for everything after that. And Lindeloff went on to the EXACT same thing as Lost with The Leftovers in terms of creating a super interesting mystery and answering almost none of it.

Lindeloff was also responsible for that putrid Watchmen series.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Lindeloff was also responsible for that putrid Watchmen series.

Lindeloff is one of those writers where if someone says they like his stuff, that makes me think less of the fan as a person. It's a person that knows Lindeloff is going to not pay off his set ups, but watches anyways and then gets mad that the pay off sucks.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

I dread seeing Nigger Jade when Shitsney is desperate enough to go to that place.

 

[cjv97]

Legacy of Vader issue 6 revealed the Jedi survivor of Order 66 named Grandea (possibly a Teelin). In the next issue, Kylo Ren will face the Jedi survivor.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Honestly I think the hidden massive failure that's not talked about enough is the High Republic. I understand a billion dollars was spent on the initiative and I think the best selling book was 250k, what would have been considered low respectable in the EU days. How Disney failed to make any games for this new expanded universe is beyond me as the video games really helped with reach for the old Republic.


You'd think a company as money hungry as Disney would be heavily invested in game development or at least licensing given how huge the industry is, but all we really got were two disappointing Battlefront games with the second dropped when people were actually beginning to like it.

 

[Ghostse]

Legacy of Vader issue 6 revealed the Jedi survivor of Order 66 named Grandea (possibly a Teelin). In the next issue, Kylo Ren will face the Jedi survivor.
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Yet anohter of the 6 billion survivors of the supposed Order 66.

 

[Fig Kommandant]

You'd think a company as money hungry as Disney would be heavily invested in game development or at least licensing

It's crazy they gutted LucasArt when they bought SW. Physical merch sure did sell but most of the memories I got from SW as a kid were from the games. It's such a boomer reaction to dismiss those as irrelevant. Crazier even that they gave exclusive licensing to EA for a while. Putting different genres into the hands of different studios is the obvious answer. Too bad they only learned that with the latest Ubisoft recycled open world game.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

It's crazy they gutted LucasArt when they bought SW. Physical merch sure did sell but most of the memories I got from SW as a kid were from the games. It's such a boomer reaction to dismiss those as irrelevant. Crazier even that they gave exclusive licensing to EA for a while. Putting different genres into the hands of different studios is the obvious answer. Too bad they only learned that with the latest Ubisoft recycled open world game.

They should've pumped money at it and made LucasArts Disney's in-house gaming studio. Sure, have them collaborate with Nintendo, Traveler's Tales, Ubisoft, EA, and Activision now and then, but have them on board as a game dev house all the same. They can be made to make not only SW games, but independent adventure games, point-and-click games, and even Marvel games or games for Disney's other IPs.

Something like Republic Commando was made in-house. And it was a high quality product. Same goes for Dark Forces 1 and 2, as well as Bounty Hunter. Even on their own, LucasArts was able to make great games. Tossing them away was an unproductive mistake.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

This whole continuity is dogshit and we should all just talk about Legends (No Legacy of the Force/Fate of the Jedi though)

 

[Bob Barbas]

Yet anohter of the 6 billion survivors of the supposed Order 66.

Tbf Legends also had this issue where seemingly millions of jedi survived order 66 so it's not exactly a new thing.