Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[p1138]

This may shock you, but nerdy stuff can also have mainstream appeal. The biggest movies of the last decade were all capeshit. It doesn't change that it's still nerdy.

And now you can't read the obvious fucking sarcasm. Clearly Star Wars had mainstream appeal, otherwise Disney wouldn't have spent 4 billion on it. I'm not even going to bother with the rest of your shit because this one sentence of yours is just so fucking stupid. I assumed you were a grown adult who wouldn't be casually chatting with a bunch of random kids, you keep imagining shit that wasn't posted including forgetting your own posts. You poorly try to shift the goalposts by claiming you made statements that you never made, or added details that you never stated. You clearly never wanted to have an honest discussion about anything, because if that were the case you wouldn't lie about even the shit you posted. This entire back and forth started when you responded to my post

You didn't say the 50/50 being familiar with the EU was the younger part of the audience, and claiming so later is just a blatant lie. I don't need to address the rest of your post if you're just going to continue to be dishonest about what even started the fucking conversation.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

It seriously baffles me that the lightsaber fights still look awkward and janky as fuck for eighteen years despite advancements in animation.

Hell, the damn animation is janky as fuck after all these years.

Have no idea why Vader is in this.

 

[crunchy bits are the best]

It seriously baffles me that the lightsaber fights still look awkward and janky as fuck for eighteen years despite advancements in animation.

Hell, the damn animation is janky as fuck after all these years.

Have no idea why Vader is in this.

Lucasfilm stole another EU story, this time it's Vader vs. Maul.

 

[HandsomeDan]

It seriously baffles me that the lightsaber fights still look awkward and janky as fuck for eighteen years despite advancements in animation.

Hell, the damn animation is janky as fuck after all these years.

Have no idea why Vader is in this.

I dont want to see this. I dont want to see weird jedi with baby hutts or other strange force users flying through the air or someone fighting vader for the 100th time. I want to see rebel soldiers, pilots, space combat, capital ships firing at each other. I just cant connect with any of this stuff anymore and I feel like we will never see a legitamate story set during the galactic civil war again.

 

[Computer God Autism]

I dont want to see this. I dont want to see weird jedi with baby hutts or other strange force users flying through the air or someone fighting vader for the 100th time. I want to see rebel soldiers, pilots, space combat, capital ships firing at each other. I just cant connect with any of this stuff anymore and I feel like we will never see a legitamate story set during the galactic civil war ahain.

TBF this is a trend that predated Filoni. The EU did a lot of cool stuff but in the process it gradually dragged Vader down, and between getting styled on by Starkiller and having wildly different powerscaling between the eras it made the Galactic Civil War feel less and less impactful or dramatic.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Lucasfilm stole another EU story, this time it's Vader vs. Maul.

Maul did way better in the SWEU story. Vader had to commit a near-suicidal maneuver just to kill him.



Long story short, some Sith cultists believed Vader was a tainted apprentice, due to his past as a Jedi. They revived a version of Maul who them engaged Vader, with the cultists believing Maul to be a better alternative due to him being purely a Sith from the start. Vader and Maul were on equal terms, until Vader made the mistake of evenly cutting Maul's saberstaff in half, giving him two sabers to work with. Maul knew Jar'Kai better than Vader, so he starts going to town on Vader and nearly wins until he lunges at Vader, who had his back turned. Vader then ignites his saber, spearing both himself and Maul, leading to the latter's death. When Maul asks what Vader hates so much that even he is beaten, Vader answers by saying that he hates himself.

TBF this is a trend that predated Filoni. The EU did a lot of cool stuff but in the process it gradually dragged Vader down, and between getting styled on by Starkiller and having wildly different powerscaling between the eras it made the Galactic Civil War feel less and less impactful or dramatic.

To be fair, the planned Force Unleashed 3 would've put that to rest. Starkiller fights Vader again, but this time, nothing works, Vader counters all the shit Starkiller tosses at him, and kills him.

 

[The handsome tard]

I'm pretty sure you can buy the original version on Steam.

Still, I spare no opportunity to throw shade at that remaster and how fucked it is of Disney to show absolutely no quality control whatsoever.

You'd think that after the highly negative reaction and technical issues, they would demand Aspyr to unfuck this mess but no, apparently.

Its just telling of the sheer apathy Disney has for S.W as an IP, either that or/and they dont really care for the old Battlefront games given how it is not even part of their "current" joke of a continuity.

Yesterday morning at my job I noticed the guy in front of me was wearing a Star Wars shirt, so I chatted him up (happened to be his 40th birthday). This "fan" had no idea who the fuck Revan, Bane, Exar Kun, etc. are. I tried steering the conversation to the Endor movies, Ewoks and Droids cartoons, etc., but he just looked at me like he had no idea what I was talking about. He couldn't talk about shit beyond the movies with the exception of the Christmas special.

Modern fans know as much as normies did back in the day. The only major difference is that instead of thinking you're a faggot nerd for enjoying Star Wars, they BECAME the very same faggots nerds (the latter part only superficially).

Unfortunately for them, despite being "into" Star Wars now, they arent in it for the right reasons and they can only hide that for so long.

Hot Toys did the unthinkable and showcased everybody's favorite looks for Ahsoka Tano.

Spoiler: Ahsoka Tano (Padawan) and Rotta the Hutt

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Even as a kid I thought it was weird she wore kind of a skimpy outfit for a BATTLEFIELD. And that was before I knew that the creator of these cartoons could have things like gross poorly disguised fetishes. Nowadays I legit wonder how they got away with the underaged girl wearing a tube top

I'm pretty sure he could've just copied the tone of the OT if he wanted to. I'm inclined to agree with the notion that Anakin and Padme are both emotionally stunted people. Unlike Luke, Leia, and Han who had regular upbringings, Padme was forced into a position of immense power as a teenager, and Anakin came from an order of monks that forbade any contact that led to attachment. Compare that to Leia, who only had minimal power as an adult, and Han, who is just a coke-smuggling cowboy, or Luke, who grew up in a comfortable landowing home, the difference is night and day.

Honestly, that sounds like a good headcanon. Han and Leia met each other when they were practically adults, Anakin and Padme met when they were still developing as people and any kind of romance that blooms during that phase is bound to be awkward, even if legit.

Padme was mostly familiar only speaking in a "professional" manner but I cant imagine she had much of a social life beyond all her duties and suddenly here comes this emotionally needy edgy young man with more hormones than medichlorians in his blood clearly showing he is into her and best part? He is good looking with a plenty visible workout routine so what kind of lady in her position wouldnt be attracted? Even more with the taboo aspect of it all only making it more appealing?

 

[Humble Architect]

Disney Vader is the weird improvement, no jobbing to OCs is a W, I have to give it to them and he is tougher. Way more of a “dark lord” in the fantasy sense and honestly just a more impressive character.

Sure, EU Vader had all sorts of demented hobbies, he had a Fabius Bile ship in Force Unleashed, but I’ll trade his loss of mad science for the sorcery Disney Vader gets up to, guy almost became Galactus and was inches from becoming Nihilus 2.

It makes more sense for “insignificant, next to the power of the force,” to indulge more arcane shit and let his weirdly nicer groomer/father/boss have the mad science.

Maul did way better in the SWEU story. Vader had to commit a near-suicidal maneuver just to kill him.

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Long story short, some Sith cultists believed Vader was a tainted apprentice, due to his past as a Jedi. They revived a version of Maul who them engaged Vader, with the cultists believing Maul to be a better alternative due to him being purely a Sith from the start. Vader and Maul were on equal terms, until Vader made the mistake of evenly cutting Maul's saberstaff in half, giving him two sabers to work with. Maul knew Jar'Kai better than Vader, so he starts going to town on Vader and nearly wins until he lunges at Vader, who had his back turned. Vader then ignites his saber, spearing both himself and Maul, leading to the latter's death. When Maul asks what Vader hates so much that even he is beaten, Vader answers by saying that he hates himself.


To be fair, the planned Force Unleashed 3 would've put that to rest. Starkiller fights Vader again, but this time, nothing works, Vader counters all the shit Starkiller tosses at him, and kills him.

The thing I miss the most is Vader’s immensely fucked up dynamic with Galen and the sheer amount of projection, abuse victim mentality and hubris on display with him doing everything he can to make a guy who was just like him, as miserable as Vader is. It tracks with both canon and EU Vader still getting opportunities to not be garbage and spitting in the universe’s face.

You’re in love? She dies.

You’re outplaying me? I’m outplaying you

You’re a Jedi? You’re a lie

You think you’re free? You are mine.

Great insight into Vader’s head.

 

[The handsome tard]

You’re in love? She dies.

If you refuse, she dies!
If you resist, she dies!
If you deliver my pizza a minute late, she dies!
If you beat me at Soul Calibur IV, she dies!
If you fail to do the YMCA, she dies!
If you leave a bad review at my favorite establishment, she dies!
If you mention any praise towards the Sequel Trilogy, SHE DIES!

 

[Humble Architect]

If you refuse, she dies!
If you resist, she dies!
If you deliver my pizza a minute late, she dies!
If you beat me at Soul Calibur IV, she dies!
If you fail to do the YMCA, she dies!
If you leave a bad review at my favorite establishment, she dies!
If you mention any praise towards the Sequel Trilogy, SHE DIES!

Vader’s slip-ups in his stoic badass schtick are always a treat.

His crashouts after his extra crisping are few and far between but as is Sith tradition, they’re hilarious. Like pouting when he saw two inquisitors fucking and immediately chose to fuck their day up.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Disney Vader is the weird improvement, no jobbing to OCs is a W, I have to give it to them and he is tougher. Way more of a “dark lord” in the fantasy sense and honestly just a more impressive character.

Sure, EU Vader had all sorts of demented hobbies, he had a Fabius Bile ship in Force Unleashed, but I’ll trade his loss of mad science for the sorcery Disney Vader gets up to, guy almost became Galactus and was inches from becoming Nihilus 2.

It makes more sense for “insignificant, next to the power of the force,” to indulge more arcane shit and let his weirdly nicer groomer/father/boss have the mad science.

If there's one thing modern Hollywood knows how to write, it's bad guys.

Lucas wanted Vader to have limits to his power; he didn't like the fact that Vader was a fan favorite and did everything in his power in the Prequels and EU to make Vader less attractive. From him killing kids twice to him getting his butt kicked by his apprentice twice, although that one fight on Kamino was him obviously faking it.

Disney saw Vader as a large pile of money and decided he'd be the ultimate drip lord, and aside from Kenobi, no one was allowed to beat him. Every appearance he has in expanded media is him just clowning on people, from Cal Kestis, to Director Barsha, to Darth Maul, the latter of whom ironically enough did better against Vader in the SWEU than he does in the new canon.

 

[Humble Architect]

If there's one thing modern Hollywood knows how to write, it's bad guys.

Lucas wanted Vader to have limits to his power; he didn't like the fact that Vader was a fan favorite and did everything in his power in the Prequels and EU to make Vader less attractive. From him killing kids twice to him getting his butt kicked by his apprentice twice, although that one fight on Kamino was him obviously faking it.

Disney saw Vader as a large pile of money and decided he'd be the ultimate drip lord, and aside from Kenobi, no one was allowed to beat him. Every appearance he has in expanded media is him just clowning on people, from Cal Kestis, to Director Barsha, to Darth Maul, the latter of whom ironically enough did better against Vader in the SWEU than he does in the new canon.

I always hated the “Palpatine sabotaged him” and loss of limbs=less power thing the EU did.

The canon even updated his cybernetics and made him more “advanced” than just a nugget in a suit, his chest had chunks removed and replaced with machinery, brain links, Palpatine making sure lightning is death but not giving him poor boots.

He feels more like a trophy/prize hound this go around, a proper Sith Lord. Tougher than Anakin ever was, not as powerful as he could’ve been but he got the power Palpatine promised.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I always hated the “Palpatine sabotaged him” and loss of limbs=less power thing the EU did.

Same here. Lucas didn't want people liking Vader, so he made Vader very limited in power and even made it so that he not only killed kids, but he was also not the strongest. Lucas even had Sidious dump Vader for Luke.

The canon even updated his cybernetics and made him more “advanced” than just a nugget in a suit, his chest had chunks removed and replaced with machinery, brain links, Palpatine making sure lightning is death but not giving him poor boots.

He feels more like a trophy/prize hound this go around, a proper Sith Lord. Tougher than Anakin ever was, not as powerful as he could’ve been but he got the power Palpatine promised.

Like I said, Disney at least knows how to write a villain. Vader this time feels less like a cripple and more of a powerful Sith, kind of like he was in the opening of Force Unleashed, whereas Lucas wants Vader to be more like what he was at the end of Force Unleashed.

I miss the days when the SWEU didn't prohibit Vader from using energy attacks. His appearance in the 2005 Revenge of the Sith game gave him Force Lightning along with his traditional Force choke/crush, and his cameo in SoulCalibur 4 gave him energy beams. That's the Vader I want.

$5 says that if Disney wrote Return of the Jedi, Vader would have killed his master and assumed the throne in preparation for the final battle with Luke and the Rebels.

 

[Computer God Autism]

To be fair, the planned Force Unleashed 3 would've put that to rest. Starkiller fights Vader again, but this time, nothing works, Vader counters all the shit Starkiller tosses at him, and kills him.

How would that have worked as a game? Would you play as Vader in the final stage? Another cutscene death? Unbeatable boss?

He feels more like a trophy/prize hound this go around, a proper Sith Lord. Tougher than Anakin ever was, not as powerful as he could’ve been but he got the power Palpatine promised

I will give Disney minor credit for, as of the last time I checked (last decade), making Vader and Palpatine's dynamic slightly more authentic. Rather than scheming against Palpatine from the moment he gets put in the suit, Vader's loyalty isn't actually shaken until he realizes his son was alive, he had been lied to and there was potentially someone else in the universe he could have a genuine connection to.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

How would that have worked as a game? Would you play as Vader in the final stage? Another cutscene death? Unbeatable boss?

Probably the latter, but it could easily be you playing as Vader and throwing Starkiller's shit back at him.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

What else could they fuck up?

Turning Padme into a bisexual?

Reviving Mace Windu even though he got squashed like a bug with Force Lightning falling down hundreds of feet?

 

[Humble Architect]

What else could they fuck up?

Turning Padme into a bisexual?

Reviving Mace Windu even though he got squashed like a bug with Force Lightning falling down hundreds of feet?

Sam back in better times revealed an idea for Force Unleashed that got put down hard, one of those shadow guards would’ve had a purple blade.

I will give Disney minor credit for, as of the last time I checked (last decade), making Vader and Palpatine's dynamic slightly more authentic. Rather than scheming against Palpatine from the moment he gets put in the suit, Vader's loyalty isn't actually shaken until he realizes his son was alive, he had been lied to and there was potentially someone else in the universe he could have a genuine connection to.

I just like that the two are a more coherent unit, sure “master and apprentice” but more often than not it’s just them splitting an impossible workload. These two make sense that they conquered the galaxy in twenty years. The mastermind and the living warhead.

Same here. Lucas didn't want people liking Vader, so he made Vader very limited in power and even made it so that he not only killed kids, but he was also not the strongest. Lucas even had Sidious dump Vader for Luke.


Like I said, Disney at least knows how to write a villain. Vader this time feels less like a cripple and more of a powerful Sith, kind of like he was in the opening of Force Unleashed, whereas Lucas wants Vader to be more like what he was at the end of Force Unleashed.

I miss the days when the SWEU didn't prohibit Vader from using energy attacks. His appearance in the 2005 Revenge of the Sith game gave him Force Lightning along with his traditional Force choke/crush, and his cameo in SoulCalibur 4 gave him energy beams. That's the Vader I want.

$5 says that if Disney wrote Return of the Jedi, Vader would have killed his master and assumed the throne in preparation for the final battle with Luke and the Rebels.

I agree, I loved the VR game (as a movie, not playing the damn thing) Vader: Immortal where the maniac is shown earning his place in fucked up Sith magic. Dude built an eldritch castle on an eldritch location and has taken after his mentor quite well.

He should’ve been flinging red lightning at the end, if that was a real game like the Jedi Survivor ones, you bet he’d have been fighting like the ancient Sith.

Back in EU he was the absolute madman who commissioned the Blackwing Virus. I want that recannonized, I don’t care about Death Troopers, I just find the idea of Darth Vader Wesker-maxxing hilarious.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I agree, I loved the VR game (as a movie, not playing the damn thing) Vader: Immortal where the maniac is shown earning his place in fucked up Sith magic. Dude built an eldritch castle on an eldritch location and has taken after his mentor quite well.

He should’ve been flinging red lightning at the end, if that was a real game like the Jedi Survivor ones, you bet he’d have been fighting like the ancient Sith.

That's how I would've made Vader. More akin to something like an Ancient Sith. Someone to inherit the kind of mantle left behind by the likes of Exar Kun and Marka Ragnos. Hell, if it were me, I'd have him slowly become like Darth Nihilus, to the point where if a foe doesn't have the full power and protection of the Light Side, Vader could siphon their life energies and use it against them; and the only reason he wouldn't go too far the way Nihilus did is because he knows it'd reduce him to a soulless space crack addict.

Back in EU he was the absolute madman who commissioned the Blackwing Virus. I want that recannonized, I don’t care about Death Troopers, I just find the idea of Darth Vader Wesker-maxxing hilarious.

"Seven minutes. Seven minutes is all I have to play with you."

Imagine Vader going in that direction because of a twisted desire to resurrect Padme. I could imagine that he has Padme's corpse in deep freeze, while he goes off on this Blackwing Virus quest, and Palpatine lets it happen because he also wants a way to become immortal or to resurrect a dying body, especially since Palpatine's body is slowly dying due to the Dark Side's power.

 

[Delany's Donkey]

Turning Padme into a bisexual?

i could 100% see them doing that with leia. Shocked they haven't already actually. they technically give han a nigress first wife

 

[Ghostse]

$5 says that if Disney wrote Return of the Jedi, Vader would have killed his master and assumed the throne in preparation for the final battle with Luke and the Rebels.

That is giving Disney far too much credit to write something cool.

Like I said, Disney at least knows how to write a villain. Vader this time feels less like a cripple and more of a powerful Sith,

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Where did you get that hilarious, detacted from all reality copypasta from? Its peak /r/StarWars.