Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

How do you think Starfield will turn out?


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Bethesda went from having a demon prince of rape in their games to pretending rape just doesn't exist in any fashion.
Rape happens even in segregated prisons, what makes you think it doesn't happen just because it's co-ed? They also don't touch on the fact that there's probably people being raped in imperial prisons in TES games or getting raped by bandits and shit. Don't think it's really necessary to mention "BTW THEY BE GETTIN RAPED IN THIS BITCH" regarding a fucking prison of all things. Kinda goes without saying.

Unless they outright state that no sexual assault ever happens in this mixed prison system, that is. Which would be very retarded, but not impossible for them to do. Idk since I'm not a retard who's gonna play a mediocre fallout in space just to whine about it.

I can just play the games of theirs that are actually good if I wanna do that.
 
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Rape happens even in segregated prisons, what makes you think it doesn't happen just because it's co-ed? They also don't touch on the fact that there's probably people being raped in imperial prisons in TES games or getting raped by bandits and shit. Don't think it's really necessary to mention "BTW THEY BE GETTIN RAPED IN THIS BITCH" regarding a fucking prison of all things. Kinda goes without saying.

Unless they outright state that no sexual assault ever happens in this mixed prison system, that is. Which would be very retarded, but not impossible for them to do. Idk since I'm not a retard who's gonna play a mediocre fallout in space just to whine about it.

I can just play the games of theirs that are actually good if I wanna do that.

A co-ed prison is such an absurd thing that you'd imagine it would be something of a sticking point, but no one apparently has any issue with it. The reference to it is limited to tapes showing prisoners in love, so if anything it comes off as the developers being for mixed sex prisons which is the sort of thing you only hear from the most mask-off of trannies. The Elder Scrolls games had plenty of references to rapey stuff, while as far as I can tell there are zero in Starfield.

And my point isn't just for the prison or rape, it's for the entire game sanding down every possible edge. It applies to slavery, bigotry or any number of things you'd expect to pop up. The closest example is indentured servitude, with the people responsible making explicitly clear that it will end in a few years. It's like they tried to have humanity having evolved into Star Trek style drones while still giving a heavy but bland dystopia veneer. It's bizarrely contradictory.

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I still like him more than Sarah. Feels like all she does is criticize everything you do except docking your ship.
 
People aren't playing it because its a space game, they're playing it because its a bethesda game in space. Whatever the setting people would play it because the First person RPG niche is incredibly lacking in games.

Incredibly lacking? Kingdom Come is the only game relatively similar to these fucking shit heaps. Todd must have made a Faustian bargain, because it's insanely unlike the industry to not copy a set of game series that consistently sells millions of copies.
 
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I agree with you, Sarah is so bipolar with her judgment.
Yeah, after maxing out her relationship I just ended up going solo for the rest of my playtime. The companions are so boring. Barrett was set up like he would be cool to hang out with, but eventually he stops being interesting too.
 
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Kingdom Come is incredibly hard to get into for your average gamer.

Bethesda being simple is a design element that has directly lead to them dominating in the market. This is straight up something that they have talked about.

Now, in many cases, even though I enjoy Starfield I'd argue it's too simple. But it's also seems clear to me that Bethesda made this game more than any other to be taken over by modders. Bethesda is reaching a point where they're more concerned with giving you a basic world to play and now build in.

Starfield is the experiment for Elder Scrolls VI I think. I wouldn't be surprised if ES VI truly is going to try to be more like Daggerfall in the sense that it's just a giant country with randomly generated shit, with them hoping that modders will add the more hand crafted stuff down the line.
 
I think Akila City and New Atlantis have the widest variety.

If you played Elite: Dangerous, you'll be happy to know good ol' INARA has a Starfield section that tracks what ship parts are available at which Space Services vendor, and at what level (the last ones unlock at 60). Hope this helps you!
You mentioned Elite Dangerous, a old friend of mine, and ship building was a highlight. I know the opinions on here range from dogshit to ok, but that fires my neurons. Curiosity might break me and make me buy a Series X to at least play the base game on if it's any way like my old addiction lol
 
I know this has been talked about but in what fucking universe is bring back a practically extinct species bad is and releasing a fucking plague good? I also like that the companion doesn't even have to be there, the game will prompt you to talk to them so they can question your judgement for not "trusting the science."

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TES games or getting raped by bandits and shit
Actually the thieves guild lady, the one with the debt sidequests but I forget her name, alludes to being raped by bandits. They touch on it enough to let you know it's a thing that happens.

But Starfield's problem isn't that there is no rape but moreso that the setting is the same weak handed saccharine shit that they were doing with Fallout 4. Despite being a shitty dystopian setting they completely ignore nasty realities and dark subject matter like human slavery.
 
I know this has been talked about but in what fucking universe is bring back a practically extinct species bad is and releasing a fucking plague good? I also like that the companion doesn't even have to be there, the game will prompt you to talk to them so they can question your judgement for not "trusting the science."

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I can't tell if Bethesda is actually making a commentary, or if they're having an Ubisoft moment.

This is literally equating a population controlling plague with the entire Covid/Pandemic which was believed by many to have been an attempt to engineer a disease to control the population.

Also I know Skyrim was bad with this shit, but lmfao at them only having a single child asset still

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I was expecting brokeback mountain. Not something that's somehow worse than niggerfaggot throuple. Why are current devs so emasculated they couldn't even do gay cowboy right is beyond me.
Seriously, I thought these fags would know how this shit would work, but appareently not.
The trash compactor.
No the in-game joke is the compactor near the chunk's sauce factory cuz DAE soylent green??
Kingdom Come is incredibly hard to get into for your average gamer.

Bethesda being simple is a design element that has directly lead to them dominating in the market. This is straight up something that they have talked about.

Now, in many cases, even though I enjoy Starfield I'd argue it's too simple. But it's also seems clear to me that Bethesda made this game more than any other to be taken over by modders. Bethesda is reaching a point where they're more concerned with giving you a basic world to play and now build in.

Starfield is the experiment for Elder Scrolls VI I think. I wouldn't be surprised if ES VI truly is going to try to be more like Daggerfall in the sense that it's just a giant country with randomly generated shit, with them hoping that modders will add the more hand crafted stuff down the line.
Yeah no they aren't waiting for modders, unless they think a baseline that already has memory leak issues is going to be "moddable."
 
I know this has been talked about but in what fucking universe is bring back a practically extinct species bad is and releasing a fucking plague good? I also like that the companion doesn't even have to be there, the game will prompt you to talk to them so they can question your judgement for not "trusting the science."

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But bringing back an extinct species to work as population control against a super predator IS trusting the heccin science you fucking retards.

Literally just wanted jab commentary. Who wrote this fucking garbage?
 
I know this has been talked about but in what fucking universe is bring back a practically extinct species bad is and releasing a fucking plague good? I also like that the companion doesn't even have to be there, the game will prompt you to talk to them so they can question your judgement for not "trusting the science."

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The ending slide even points out that the effort to repopulate them brought the UC and Freestar closer together, so it's the morally and objectively best choice.

That and I kept seeing the parallels between Terrormorphs here and X parasites in Metroid. Both species flourished because their predators were wiped out, and even exterminating the planet they're from didn't stop the X, so what horrors would we have to contend with if we just wipe out the Terrormorphs?

People aren't playing it because its a space game, they're playing it because its a bethesda game in space. Whatever the setting people would play it because the First person RPG niche is incredibly lacking in games.
I can't even call this an RPG with all the handholding it does. There were multiple points in the Crimson Fleet quests where my immediate instinct was to pickpocket what I wanted, but the item did not exist on their inventory despite the writing explicitly saying they had it. I had to walk up to them, talk to them, and then either persuade, bribe, blackmail, or attack them for it. Hell, there's an NPC that frames you for murder and he's literally invincible so you can't gun him down because he's involved in a different quest!
Did I miss anything of worth by doing a persuade on him to skip the fight? The persuade in this game is kinda dumb and I was able to talk down the final boss with zero levels or perks into anything speech.
It's a long, frantic fight where the Hunter and/or the Emissary (it was "and" in my case, because screw both of them) face you alongside duplicates of themselves. As you wear them down, you jump to different locations on different planets where the fight continues, and they'll happily throw their Starborn tricks at you like turning off the gravity to trip you up. When you've worn them down enough, they'll replace their clones with clones of you. I'm so used to Bethesda bosses being pushovers that I appreciated stocking up on medical supplies and ammo beforehand, because I needed a lot of it.

Again, it's not a high bar to clear, but it felt like they put some actual effort into it.
You mentioned Elite Dangerous, a old friend of mine, and ship building was a highlight. I know the opinions on here range from dogshit to ok, but that fires my neurons. Curiosity might break me and make me buy a Series X to at least play the base game on if it's any way like my old addiction lol

So, the space combat is fun, especially when you put points into piloting to unlock lateral thrusters and inertial flight, but it rarely interacts with the main game. I had to actively seek it out outside of the few times your scripted to have a space fight.

The building is a highlight, though. I felt like I was playing with Lego sets made up of different space themes, and a lot of the fun is putting together a ship with all the different pieces that looks and performs well. It's just a shame the ship doesn't do much besides store your shit.
 
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Barrett is the most annoying one in my opinion because he can't stop firing millennial marvel reddit hehe quirky lines for like 2 seconds. He's the epitome of "millennial writing".
 
Starfield Tops Final Fantasy 16, Resident Evil 4 on Major Sales Chart (via Gamerant)

Apparently Starfield is Europes 5th fastest selling game so far this year. Surpassing FF16 is certainly a black mark on Sony.

I just replayed that section with the "elevator kingdom" dialogue option. Surprisingly enough, the actual response to it does reference the dialogue in question.

God I hate these stupid reddit choices. I'm noticing them more and more now.
 
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