Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

[Just Some Other Guy]

Because it’s funny to laugh at spergs and speds. The salt at last years VGA’s when Elden Ring won GOTY was great.


Unrelated, there’s I’ve been wondering for a while.
Why do blacks gravitate to PlayStation so much.

You're right. It is funny to laugh at spergs.

 

[X Prime]

Projection. Did Todd Howard rape you or something?

Well, they do say that telling sweet little lies invalidates consent these days.

 

[CyrusHowler]

Cyrus, you still act like you’re on Reddit, you of all people don’t get to call anyone a sped.

 

[Mega Black]

You're not barred from running if you have zero fatigue.

No you're just barred from being able to hit anything when you run. Like when a cliff racer shows up for the ten thousandth time and you can't hit it because you were trying to get somewhere slightly faster.

 

[Left Ass Cheek]

No you're just barred from being able to hit anything when you run. Like when a cliff racer shows up for the ten thousandth time and you can't hit it because you were trying to get somewhere slightly faster.

Scrolls and enchanted items (rings, clothing, etc.) don't have a hit or cast chance, so you can kill the ten thousandth cliff racer with the ten thousand scrolls of Drathis' Winter Guest that you can buy from Arrile for extremely cheap since he's guaranteed to sell them at a reduced price if you gave Fargoth his ring.

If you're playing a magic character with at least 50 in willpower and decent restoration you use restore/absorb fatigue spells very reliably even with 0 fatigue. Or just set a mark in front of the Shrine to Stop The Moon in Vivec and get the 500pt levitation buff that makes it so that you not only move faster but you also won't be expending any fatigue since it puts you in the walking animation.

If you don't wanna use any magical solutions at all you can just find a chest to leave all your extra shit in and make sure you use less than 50% of your encumbrance when you're venturing somewhere. You'll regain your fatigue faster than the enemy will have a chance to even hit you if your endurance isn't shit, and you'll kill them faster as well.

Or you can just keep running. I try to avoid using the Boots of Blinding Speed so I always level up speed first, and after awhile you will just outrun them. Or outjump them, in my case.

tl;dr fatigue isn't perfect and I wouldn't have designed it to drain so fast, but it is very easy to circumvent. Starfield and other Bethesda titles would probably benefit from having a stamina bar that isn't so fucking boring and static. The CO2 meter is such a joke from what I've seen, I'm sick of limited sprint bars that just exist to make traversing these boring ass worlds take even longer in a way you can't circumvent.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Man, so many shitty opinions have been posted while I've been wageslaving away.
Agree with that one dude a couple of pages back, Starfield is so fucking boring nobody is actually talking about it now, and I doubt people will be talking about it 20 years from now like people are right now with Morrowind

 

[Mega Black]

so fucking boring nobody is actually talking about it now,

Everything about it is so safe and corporate that there's nothing to sink your teeth into. If anyone wants to know why you shouldn't be afraid to offend people with your art, this is why.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Man, so many shitty opinions have been posted while I've been wageslaving away.
Agree with that one dude a couple of pages back, Starfield is so fucking boring nobody is actually talking about it now, and I doubt people will be talking about it 20 years from now like people are right now with Morrowind

If the past decade of gaming has taught me anything, people bitching that it still sucks and people saying it became a great game when they finally fixed it in 2025 are just as likely.

Hell, I see people saying Assassins Creed UNITY was a great game and they wished AC never strayed away from it now.

 

[CyrusHowler]

Starfield is so fucking boring nobody is actually talking about it now

That’s modern gaming in general. Nobody will be talking about Spider-Man 2, Mario Wonder or Sonic All-Stars in a couple weeks.

If the past decade of gaming has taught me anything, people bitching that it still sucks and people saying it became a great game when they finally fixed it in 2025 are just as likely.

Absolutely. There are people that STILL say No Man’s Sky sucks in 2023, and some people that pretend they always liked Cyberpunk now that it’s a pretty decent game. There’s also people saying that Battlefield V “was always good” despite it still being shit.

 

[Super Hans v2]

Hell, I see people saying Assassins Creed UNITY was a great game and they wished AC never strayed away from it now.

Unity's biggest problems were 1) the launch bugs, fixed soon after, and 2) that it came out before whatever name Ubi's calling this shitty era of AC. If Ubi managed to make a game in that style again and managed to restrain their impulse to make the minimap have a collectible icon at all times, it'd probably be one of the highest rated in the series.

 

[Left Ass Cheek]

Starfield is so fucking boring nobody is actually talking about it now, and I doubt people will be talking about it 20 years from now like people are right now with Morrowind

Nostalgia carries Morrowind hard. It’s my favorite Bethesda game partly because its pretty good but mostly because its what I grew up with. Same goes for Oblivion, I really like that game. Perhaps more than I should. They’re both just really comfortable despite the jank.

Starfield is vapid as shit and entirely retardproof - basically designed with chrildren in mind. I can see a lot of people looking back on it with rose tinted glasses if its something they’d have grown up with. AC: Unity was already brought up, but I know people who feel alienated from current CoD and nostalgic for the past games despite their first exposure to the franchise being games like Modern Warfare 3 (the original) and Black Ops 2.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Turns out swimming is actually a working feature in the game, it is just normally disabled for the player(similarly to the fuel situation)

In other news, modders have begun making proper mods for Starfield now that a ghetto modkit in a form of jury rigged Skyrim/Fallout 4 Creation Kit has been released. It will take time for any results to be posted, but it looks like there is finally light in the tunnel.
One mod that did catch my attention that HASN'T been removed from Nexus yet is one that tries to make Cora, Sam's mutt child white like in the concept art

Currently, there is very limited moddability as far as NPC manipulation goes, but hopefully with the modkit release it will become just as minute editing NPCs in Starfield as in Skyrim and Fallout 4.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

I wish the guy voicing Sam Coe did another Deus Ex game instead of this shit.

 

[Mega Black]

Scrolls and enchanted items (rings, clothing, etc.) don't have a hit or cast chance, so you can kill the ten thousandth cliff racer with the ten thousand scrolls of Drathis' Winter Guest that you can buy from Arrile for extremely cheap since he's guaranteed to sell them at a reduced price if you gave Fargoth his ring.

I don't care that there are ways to mitigate it the whole point is that it's fucking annoying and I shouldn't have to buy scrolls or wear enchanted items so that I can fucking RUN in a VIDEOGAME.

I wish the guy voicing Sam Coe did another Deus Ex game instead of this shit.

He never asked for this.

 

[Epoch]

I don't care that there are ways to mitigate it the whole point is that it's fucking annoying and I shouldn't have to buy scrolls or wear enchanted items so that I can fucking RUN in a VIDEOGAME.

Waiting for an hour also refills the stamina completely, which you should already be doing since its a free heal as well.

 

[Left Ass Cheek]

I don't care that there are ways to mitigate it the whole point is that it's fucking annoying and I shouldn't have to buy scrolls or wear enchanted items so that I can fucking RUN in a VIDEOGAME.

“I shouldn’t have to buy repair hammers to wear ARMOR in a VIDEOGAME”

“I shouldn’t have to wear lighter gear to SNEAK in a VIDEOGAME”

“I shouldn’t have to read or even use my fucking eyes to PROGRESS in a VIDEOGAME”

Nigger just hold W and press T or whatever the wait button is for you when the cliffracer stops chasing you. This is such a retarded skill issue, who the fuck is too dumb to hold W?

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Turns out swimming is actually a working feature in the game, it is just normally disabled for the player(similarly to the fuel situation)

...

I've been able to swim in the game since day 1.

Unless you mean diving? In which case I'm likely to believe that it's both an artifact of Creation Engine as well as probably some sort of clipping issue with the NPC.

I don't care that there are ways to mitigate it the whole point is that it's fucking annoying and I shouldn't have to buy scrolls or wear enchanted items so that I can fucking RUN in a VIDEOGAME.

It's kind of funny how if someone pointed out ways to mitigate shitty, annoying things in Starfield, it'd be called a cope.

Not so with Morrowind (hollowed be its name)

 

[30+GameOvers]

Nigger just hold W and press T or whatever the wait button is for you when the cliffracer stops chasing you. This is such a retarded skill issue, who the fuck is too dumb to hold W?

Your average Bethesda fan, apparently. Same reason why we can't have survival mechanics at launch or any fuel management, because we have to make literally everything in the game retard proof for select nutcases who can't read the tutorial prompts

 

[Left Ass Cheek]

It's kind of funny how if someone pointed out ways to mitigate shitty, annoying things in Starfield, it'd be called a cope.

Not so with Morrowind (hollowed be its name)

Except using the systems that the game gives you to deal with an intended inconvenience isn’t mitigation. If you kill the cliffracer with a method that cannot miss no matter your fatigue or you make it so that your fatigue doesn’t fall, and can replenish the means to employ those method infinitely, It’s not mitigating the problem. It’s solving the problem outright. The only difference between what I suggested and spawning in infinite fatigue potions and mashing m1 with a full bar is that my solutions don’t require you to “cheat”.

Morrowind is overrated and carried by nostalgia, like I already said. This autistic meme that everyone who actually played the game must venerate it unconditionally is as far from the truth as it gets. Ask any Morrowboomer how they feel about vampirism being completely broken and total shit, or what they think of the word “attack” being used as the term for a stat correlating to hit chance and not damage, or how shitty 90% of the birthsigns are, or how a ton of quests are just unfinished due to bad scripting.

But my Nord gets tired when I run and I don’t know what to do so I guess the game is retarded. Not me, tho. Never.

 

[FedPostalService]

I wish the guy voicing Sam Coe did another Deus Ex game instead of this shit.

Every time he spoke to me he sounded like he wanted my cock firmly jammed up his arse. Since it won’t let me kill him he became a crew member I ignored until Starfield became a game that I ignored.