Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

[BALLZ-BROKEN MkII]

I think the biggest mistake of this game is that if they wanted Space Delphine to be a posh sounding bossy lady, they should've hired the female Altmer VA from Skyrim to do her voice. Then I would've paid the $100 for early access and it would be 10/10 GOTY WOULD COOM AGAIN.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

I think the biggest mistake of this game is that if they wanted Space Delphine to be a posh sounding bossy lady, they should've hired the female Altmer VA from Skyrim to do her voice. Then I would've paid the $100 for early access and it would be 10/10 GOTY WOULD COOM AGAIN.

If you mean Elewen, she have its own VA.
Female Altmers had generally the ElfHaughty voicetype.

 

[ZMOT]

Bethesderp changed the way plugins work so now every plugin needs a compatibility patch for every other plugin in the load order which would be fuck tons of work.

haven't looked into it, but a meta abstraction mod should "fix" that.
good luck finding anyone to do that tho...

 

[Sniperwoof]

haven't looked into it, but a meta abstraction mod should "fix" that.
good luck finding anyone to do that tho...

Literally no one gives enough of a fuck. The Skyrim together devs dropped their alpha with literally a blogpost saying "boring" and even the chick who makes the CBBE body said she's not really interested in supporting Starfield.

Do you know how hard you to fuck up to make even the Lewdmodders give up? Those guys will mod literally anything including shovelware and Chinese mobile games. Not this shit though.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Literally no one gives enough of a fuck. The Skyrim together devs dropped their alpha with literally a blogpost saying "boring" and even the chick who makes the CBBE body said she's not really interested in supporting Starfield.

Do you know how hard you to fuck up to make even the Lewdmodders give up? Those guys will mod literally anything including shovelware and Chinese mobile games. Not this shit though.

There have been rumors on 4chan's Starfield General that the mod tools that people already have have been making the rounds(no leaks as modders were forced to sign an NDA and nobody wants to eat shit over this game of all things), it seems coomer mods have already been made and will release as soon as day one once the modding tools are out. CBBE is planned to be supported once that happens.
Truth be told, the NPCs in that game are so ugly that I doubt anything can be salvaged. Have you seen Sarah in a bathing suit? Her breasts are so small you might be forgiven for thinking she is a troon or a boy(fun fact: there are actual troons in this game too)

 

[Foltest]

This is from teh sweetbaby thread, but I find this mindset to be so mindboggling.

Well according to Todd Howard and Emil Pagliarulo they don't like to use design documents when making their games. I am not making that up. They have gone on record saying that. It is no wonder that their current games feel directionless.

No desigin documents at all. This is fucking stupid.

 

[Sniperwoof]

House Varen feels like cut content. A whole religious order filled with fanatics who worship a giant celestial space serpent like Alan Moore does could be cool but they have no quests and when you encounter Varen cultists in the world they have the same weapons and armor as regular raiders.

Like everything else in this game very gay and very boring.

 

[geckogoy]

No desigin documents at all. This is fucking stupid.

I would disagree, except for the fact that they used like 30 random studios from all over the world, so documentation would legitimately be their only hope to coordinate a cumbersome behemoth like that

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

No desigin documents at all. This is fucking stupid.

I'm pretty sure that this has always been a thing with Bethesda. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong though. I just know playing Arena has convinced me that they go into shit with like the "design page" Todd posted from Skyrim where it's just like a logo and a generic idea.

Varen cultists in the world they have the same weapons and armor as regular raiders.

Yes and no.

Each enemy faction favored a weapon type. I believe Pirates favored ballistic, Spacers favored energy and Varuun were supposed to favor Particles. (to the point that I believe all Particle weapons are "Varuun" weapons)

Since Particle are an end game meta weapon though, Varuun wouldn't spawn with them unless you were also a high level.

Now I believe I read and even posted about it in here at one point that Bethesda made a change in one of the updates that changed this so that weapon type preference was patched out, so everyone would carry all types.

It was theorized at the time that since Varun are high level enemies, they seemingly only spawned (outside set encounters) in high level planets which are very far away. And since the majority of people, even at high level, were not exploring that far they were not encountering them enough to even see more than a handful of particle weapons.

So now if you even go to the areas to see Varuun, they'll carry whatever the fuck because weapon type preference is gone. (at least how I understand it, I haven't played since early December)

 

[scathefire]

House Varen feels like cut content. A whole religious order filled with fanatics who worship a giant celestial space serpent like Alan Moore does could be cool but they have no quests and when you encounter Varen cultists in the world they have the same weapons and armor as regular raiders.

Like everything else in this game very gay and very boring.

I assumed that the DLC would concern them but we're not even sure that DLC is going to happen at this point.

 

[BALLZ-BROKEN MkII]

If you mean Elewen, she have its own VA.
Female Altmers had generally the ElfHaughty voicetype.

Yeah, I mean the Haughty Elf voice. If you gonna get nagged at, wouldn't you rather get nagged at by this?

 

[The handsome tard]

Difference being the Skywind team has been going since 2011 and I've heard far more tranny drama coming from their team.

Whats up with modders, devs and trannies? Why is it so hard to have an indie team of mentally functional human beings? But then again, I see that its often joked modders are kind of naturally nutty with usually high opinion of themselves so maybe I just answered my own question.

The Frontier had no tranny drama, I think, but it did had possible pedo drama.

I tried playing Elder Scrolls Arena and holy shit it reminds me of Starfield on a basic design level.

And then suddenly I find out that Bethesda basically went into it with no fucking plan and I'm like "...Oh."

Also TES Arena came 3 fucking decades ago so I think its game design can be excused...Starfield's tho? Nope.

As far as I understand it large scale modding projects are basically impossible for Starfield because

1- the world is segmented into what are basically proc gen mini sandboxes so it's not really an open world game.

2- Bethesderp changed the way plugins work so now every plugin needs a compatibility patch for every other plugin in the load order which would be fuck tons of work.

Jesus Christ, Bethesda, you did it, you actually did it. You have just ruined it the one thing that kept fools coming back to yoru games, how relatively easy to mod they were.

 

[TheHarbinger]

Whats up with modders, devs and trannies? Why is it so hard to have an indie team of mentally functional human beings?

Alike people want to work together. Would you honestly want to be around trannies and furries and minor attracted persons for eight to nine hours a day and under constant pressure not to say anything even remotely offensive lest you get fired and blacklisted across the entire industry? Because these are the abject losers and utter pigs and monsters that you will find populating the halls of almost every single game developer in America and Europe.

 

[Mega Black]

Modding tools not coming out or being heavily gatekept by Bethesda/Nexus would utterly slaughter this game, since even moreso than Bethesda's previous offerings Starfield NEEDS modders to come in and basically fix shit from the ground up.

 

[whogoesthere]

One of the reasons they are doing this is because they can avoid any mods that might be "problematic". They fear a kotaku article like "Nazi flag mod, made by turbo nazis from 4chan, is now in starfield"

As well as turning this into the new dlc model. I wonder if they glance over the mods for skyrim and weep at the thought of it all being for free. Imagine if they could charge a very small fee, and take an even smaller fee for every single one of those mods and the downloaders using them. I think thats always been their endgoal, and this woke shit will be the trojan horse to get there.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

One of the reasons they are doing this is because they can avoid any mods that might be "problematic". They fear a kotaku article like "Nazi flag mod, made by turbo nazis from 4chan, is now in starfield"

There is a laugh to be had at Kotaku - someone probably had that article ready to go, but ownership has decreed they need to put out Game Guides instead of political pieces now. At a rate that that site is probably looking to get shuttered.

As well as turning this into the new dlc model. I wonder if they glance over the mods for skyrim and weep at the thought of it all being for free. Imagine if they could charge a very small fee, and take an even smaller fee for every single one of those mods and the downloaders using them. I think thats always been their endgoal, and this woke shit will be the trojan horse to get there.

See, this I can believe - the Mods did most of Bethesda’s work in unfucking their games for free, but the better ones took money off the table. In the era of over-monetization, that’s apparently inexcusable.

Nevermind that we had Fallout 76 as an example of what happens when Modders weren’t allowed to fix a Bethesda Game, now we have Starfield which has just made modding so tedious it just isn’t worth it.

Eventually, it’s going to click with people that Bethesda just doesn’t have the talent needed to keep up with Modern Game Expectations, and I’m going to laugh - mostly at Phil Spencer for likely overpaying for this company.

 

[ZMOT]

I wonder if they glance over the mods for skyrim and weep at the thought of it all being for free. Imagine if they could charge a very small fee, and take an even smaller fee for every single one of those mods and the downloaders using them. I think thats always been their endgoal, and this woke shit will be the trojan horse to get there.

didn't they try this 2-3 times already?

 

[whogoesthere]

didn't they try this 2-3 times already?

I think they are playing a longer game, knowing a younger generation of gamers are likely to see it as normal as they haven't the experience of the time before. But there is no way they are walking away from that huge cash opportunity. It's an amazing thing as well, a ready built market, a product you have no costs to create. Just skim a little fee (like steam does with games) and you have basically free money.

I mean It's not even just mods that add something either, taking place of DLC. But all the bug fixes, you end up with a profitable bug fixing solution, which means they can slash their own costs in favour of letting the "mod community" fix all the issues.

It's shocking they haven't been far more forceful with it when you consider the greed and easy money situation. But I really think they will eventually.

(the one hope is that Microsoft is involved, and they have a habit of fucking things up a lot of the time)

 

[ZMOT]

I think they are playing a longer game, knowing a younger generation of gamers are likely to see it as normal as they haven't the experience of the time before. But there is no way they are walking away from that huge cash opportunity. It's an amazing thing as well, a ready built market, a product you have no costs to create. Just skim a little fee (like steam does with games) and you have basically free money.

I mean It's not even just mods that add something either, taking place of DLC. But all the bug fixes, you end up with a profitable bug fixing solution, which means they can slash their own costs in favour of letting the "mod community" fix all the issues.

It's shocking they haven't been far more forceful with it when you consider the greed and easy money situation. But I really think they will eventually.

(the one hope is that Microsoft is involved, and they have a habit of fucking things up a lot of the time)

even if they try I doubt it will work. not even zoomers are retarded enough to pay money for a bugfix patch, fuck they probably don't use mods to begin with and would end up with a broken game, only to drop it. starfield is pretty much in that state where no one wants to bother with mods.

trying to monetize mods is retarded (not that it keeps them from trying), because doing that would inevitably force it to follow the same marketing dynamics as games already do, meaning worst case you get the paid bugfix mod for a paid bugfix mod to a paid game. people who use 100 of free mods would never pay for 100 of them, plus main big reason for modding, smut, wouldn't be allowed anyway. so why bother modding when you can't have big booty bimbo companion? and to prevent it people giving it away for free or simply pirating (like it happened with the skyrim mods) it would need to be heavily gated or have highly regulated mod tools.
might as well spend the time to do it in another game without all that shit.

 

[whogoesthere]

even if they try I doubt it will work. not even zoomers are retarded enough to pay money for a bugfix patch

Maybe, but your not looking at the overall landscape.

All game companies have noticed how obscenely profitable mobile gaming is. Mostly women who play that shit as well, and they are far better customers than faggots like us (plenty of traditional female gamers, not making this a gender thing), but that mobile market is a goldmine and they all want in.

You may point out shit like skyrim, starfield, the fallout games etc, are all PC and console games, but that's not going to stay that way. Warframe, a popular f2p game (decent as far as that market goes) has released a mobile version of their game (I think its apple only for now, but they intend for all phones to have a option, phone power being the only limit). I bet the conversation for the new elder scrolls game has had people mention if mobile would be an option. Fuck Diablo tried it, it bombed, but its still early days.

I really think thats the direction a lot of these big corps are wanting to go. They are not dominating the market anymore, too many of their big games are failures in terms of money, and they want a better and more controllable revenue stream.

Zoomies by and large still use social media, pinning any tech hope on those people is a recipe for failure. They all have phones they are glued too.