@BALLZ-BROKEN MkII Problems with Starfield begin with Fallout 76, you can see the same rot that maybe didn't start there but was definitely on full display by then. The excuse from copers we got was that F76 was a multiplayer game, so the lack of small details or the weak story and writing didn't matter. You were supposed to play with friends, remember?
Then we take this same low level of quality and apply it to a single experience. Yeah, everybody is going to notice that. You make valid points on flanderization of Bethesda and them toning stuff down, but I think at least for Fallout 4 it was them not really knowing what they were going to do with Boston as a setting. Centuars were in concept art but I guess they didn't make the cut for one reason for another and were replaced with super mutts(which is a cool, and horrifying, concept), slavers are technically there but you have to do the stupid kid in the fridge quest(there is also slavery on full display in Nuka World DLC so it's not like they didn't have it in them to not include it. Implication is that Gunners and Raiders deal with slave trading but you just never see it happening in the base game). That game was a mess, and it's honestly surprising it came out as cohesive as it was, considering the state of F76 and Starfield after it.
The engine is a big issue, however, and I am glad that actual industry vets and modders all agreed on that. This settles any future debate with redditors or what have you, I think the point with Cyberpoint was pretty good: If even CDPR are abandoning their engine, and that engine is infinitely more advanced than Gamebryo, what the fuck does that say about Bethesda? There is no way this game was ever going to work even with a dream team of CRPG devs in that engine. You couldn't pull a miracle like Fallout New Vegas again out of your ass, even with a talented crew this would have been a disaster.
Honestly, how can they even add new content into the game at this point without re-working the engine? Adding vehicles won't work, they might add mechs as an equivalent of Fallout power armor but it will be retarded given lore on the mechs in-game. They can add more shiny spaceships or guns and add actual cities into one of the existing planets, but what's the excuse that they're not there at launch? Surely they won't add even more fucking useless empty planets, right?
Yeah, Bethesda wrote themselves into the corner this time around, they can't just apply an easy fix or add useless new content if the reception is this bad. I have a feeling they will try to pull a No Man's Sky or Cyperpunk and try to "fix" the game for a 2.0 launch, only this is Bethesda we're talking about and it won't fucking work, because nothing short of porting everything to a brand new, more modern engine will work. This has the potential to be a bigger trash fire than Fallout 76, a game that by all means actually has a small dedicated fanbase and some good points towards it for all it's problems at launch and lackluster content. Starfield has little to no reason to ever play it unless you really wanted to check out how spaceships in this shitty engine would work.
