Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

How do you think Starfield will turn out?


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It went from an open world game to an instances level progression style game, also terrible DEI designs where all the fish people are black and have zoomer haircuts.

They also changed the art style to something less grim and more corporate safe fantasy with lots of bright colors and neon magic sparkles.

Basically it just looks like complete ass. I think the devs admitted they spent like more than half the game's dev time trying to get multiplayer to work before giving up and making cut down slop.
Sounds ominously how the development of OW went. It will probably be a fantasy OW, ie a game that is just fine but will be hated by people for expecting too much out of it and be quickly forgotten. Oh well, didn't have high expectations anyways.
Not to derail the thread even further, but I am looking forward more into that game by InExile in the Victorian setting with time control being part of both story and gameplay. It reminds of what Bioshock Infinite promised to be, so even if Avowed fails hopefully this one won't.
 
the terrain of each tile is directly mapped to a part of each planet, and is contiguous with the next tile, so it is theoretically finite.
However starfield planets are real scale, so they're effectively infinite because you're never going to run out of unseen landing spots with any normal play.
I wonder how it handles the biomes once you start exploring a planet. If you keep going north, do the tiles continue to be the same or do they switch to a snowy/cold biome?

I haven't been paying attention to it, what happened to Avowed?
The Outer Worlds happened. They changed the art style and tone to something as colorful and generic as TOW.
It went from an open world game to an instances level progression style game, also terrible DEI designs where all the fish people are black and have zoomer haircuts.

They also changed the art style to something less grim and more corporate safe fantasy with lots of bright colors and neon magic sparkles.

Basically it just looks like complete ass. I think the devs admitted they spent like more than half the game's dev time trying to get multiplayer to work before giving up and making cut down slop.
It's a shame that we will never get their version of Skyrim.
 
What would the sequel even be? It's the first Bethesda game where I am left wondering what a sequel could even entail. Elder Scrolls and Fallout have lots of unexplored and unique territory to cover but SF's setting is so limited and dull.
They've made such a big deal about the 10 year lifespan and pushing Creation Club that I'm pretty sure they never planned on a sequel and just wanted to constantly pump out content for it.
 
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Going to wait a bit for the community patch and Script Extender to get updated before diving in. My expectations are already rock-bottom, we'll see if it still doesn't meet them.
 
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"Why does Todd let you be a double chosen one?"
 
Going to wait a bit for the community patch and Script Extender to get updated before diving in. My expectations are already rock-bottom, we'll see if it still doesn't meet them.
Same here, I have played the game with a lot of mods so I will wait for them to be updated first.
 
For gameplay it looks like they added more zero-g action which was cool but basically unutilized in base. Featured 2-3 times the vehicles that from Todgod's own mouth were not supposed to be in if not for heroic "community engagement". Finally a lot featuring melee combat and new melee weapons, nice considering it was bad by fallout 4 standards but in trailer it's always paired with more space magic which leads to my second problem.

It's obvious to anyone with all the space woo and artifact structures that house Varuun and all this was supposed to atleast feature much more in the main Starborn storyline. The space episcopalians are key, you atleast talk to the space nu-atheist. Varuun only shows up as mobs and a dungeon for the Andreja, who I am sickened to report is Emil's waifu, he even got a tattoo of the snake lmao.

It all sucks because I think Emil isn't half bad when checked and writing stuff that he's good at, ie religion ("cuz y'know, I was a goohd cahthlic boy from Bohston") and FAMILY but this is all coming out 4 months past due, for a bad bethesda game no cares about now other than Bethesda autists, youtube lore content coolies and retards still subscribed to gamepass. Why did they cut all this and focus on modeling pork buns and exploration-survival mechanics they ended up just cutting for the sake of retards?

I swear, they will pump out 1-2 more of these and some featured mod content and when ESC6 is looking to be and is a piece of shit in 3 or so years, the bots will say "But they fixed Starfield!"
 
Randomly turn on a stream, guy is doing some quest where he has to track down and execute some high level council members son. They're black, of course.

Ends up going to a farm to question the family on if they helped him or not. It's two lesbians and their daughter who all look the same age, who use "they" pronouns.

So I guess the Varuun being slavic was only for the "bad" ones, huh?
 
Retard who bought the special edition and thus got Shattered Space here

I've finished the campaign. I went through picking "bad" options (I think) but as far as I can tell it changes nothing except makes whoever is with you "dislike".

1. Holy shit the world is ugly as fuck. The constant pinks and purples hurt my eyes.

2. It felt like every "new" weapon and outfit I came across was just a recolor/reskin of a base item. Lab outfits are now black and green instead of white and blue, the blue settler outfit now has a goofy swirl design on the non puffy side similar to the one on Andreas outfit. I *think* there are some new Va'run space suits but I never played with them much in the base game so they could also be like this.

3. I think I came across a grand total of 3 new enemies. And I use that term loosely. There's like a berserker Va'run zealot that was treated like a boss in one mission, then just kinda popped up here and there. Then there are these two spider like enemies that seem to be just like every other arachnid enemy in the game but they kinda glow? There might be a new type of animation with a lunge attack maybe? One is big and blue, the other is small and clear white like a ghost.

4. This story is absolute shit. You're a chosen one, and it's never really explained why. I assume cause of the artifact but they don't *actually* say that and just treat you like a prophet from the snake. The thing that makes you so special is that you can hear the "ghost" of their leader speak. That's it. You're very abruptly "converted" into the religion so that you can save them. From here everyone treats you like you're a tried and true believer no matter what you say it feels like. Something happened and blew up most of the city, and their temple is under a force field and now you have to unite the three houses by completing a mission for each of them so that they will work on a laser that can get you through the force field. (it's kinda like Final Fantasy VII with the Sister Ray and North Crater)

One of them has the heir to the family run off and you're tasked with executing him (or faking it, I didn't) for heresy

One has you saving a bunch of hostages (or killing them to cause a political shift, I did) from some Zealots.

One has you go to a secret lab to collect a device because...someone had a vision or something I think? I was texting during the dialogue for this one. It was dumb cause once you bring back the device they say you didn't need it only to have it be a big thing you need in the final mission. Also the choice is dumb, you can take a second device to kill the enemies trying to stop your escape at the cost of destroying a farming village. I did it just cause, and I couldn't even tell if the village was destroyed. It just looked like they got flooded but everyone was crying about how awful it was? IDK the homo color scheme was hurting my eyes so maybe I'm just blind.

Anyways, you shoot the force field and get in, and the leader of House Varun is like "Hey, I need you to complete this experiment" and you do it and it turns out he's trying to make ghost soldiers to start another universe war, and you have the option of killing their life support or going along with it. I went along with it cause fuck it. So then the Zealot terrorists start attacking even though they all want to go to war which makes no sense, and the ghost solders start shooting at you too for some reason, and you go to a big swirly blue vortex thing and oh no turns out Varun Leader is an asshole and is like "You gotta die for the plan to work" and they literally give you an option to be like "Fuck it, I'll do what you ask" but all it does is reload your auto save from entering the room. So you gotta blow up this guys vortex device and he's all like "omg I'll kill you!" and there's a metroid esque escape from the temple before it blows up in a big blue swirley thing. You wake up and the three houses are like "what we do now?" and they basically decide that you get to choose who is the new leader.

Now Emil must be becoming aware, because there is an option to be like "I'm the leader of House Varun" and they literally just go "hahaha, funny joke, but seriously which one of us is in charge." and you have the option of being like "I'm not choosing, fuck you" and then they get really upset and are like "you can leave but we're going to try to kill you on sight if we ever see you again" and your partner bitches at you for being dumb.

So I reloaded and out of chill guy, radical guy, and political girl I chose chill guy. And then this mystic witch bitch comes in and is like "He didn't tell you but the leader wanted to do another universe war" and chill guy is like I don't, radical guy is like I do, political girl is like "I'm not picking" and so of course the decision falls to you. I went out of character and said "nah, fuck that". They give you a house and....that seems to be it. My partner didn't have anything to say about my choice unlike when I just said "fuck you" and now I guess I'm supposed to do side quests or something but the world is so fucking ugly I'm just done.

For being his "favorite faction", house varuun feels very under developed. like I found a few notes in the final mission and I can't tell what he's going for. Is the guy who founded the religion just crazy? There's some file labaled confidential and like he's talking about how he's a "patient" and someone named sylvie has been helping him deal with everything, and then there's another one where he's talking to everyone when they're stranded and says "i'm not crazy, I really saw the snake" and then another one where he goes full hitler and is like "fuck everyone lets kill them!". I kind of figured there was going to be some hidden artefact somewhere the just kind of makes it like "oh, he touched it and got the vision but that's how he took it" but unless it's a side mission or really hidden I didn't see anything like that.

tl;dr: nothing makes sense and it ends abruptly. I didn't have faith in Elder Scrolls VI and this doesn't change that, it somehow makes my expectations even worse.

Oh yeah, the world is supposedly hand crafted but it's still small and open as fuck from what I've seen (I did not explore much at all, but also feel no need or desire to). For taking a year, this whole thing feels like they handed it to the b team to hit an obligation for bundling it with the special edition. I do not believe they are going to support this for 10 years outside of just having retards put paid mods on creation club. I'll be surprised if there is another expansion tbqh, I think Todd said they're already working on it so maaaaaaybe but I could see them just saying fuck it too.

OH YEAH, there was noticable "they/them" usage and lesbians that annoyed me. Funny enough, for one of the main characters being a homo I don't remember ANYONE making a point to use they/them pronouns in the main game.
 
They really need to fire Emil. His writing has never been good, but it's getting worse and worse. I did a quick look at the reddit and I see fanboys and shills defending it saying "you need to leave something for the player to interpret."

No, this guy is leaving nothing there and it's up to the player to just make up whatever the fuck to cope.
 
Looks like this ain't no "Peril on Gorgon", so I get to gloat about my Obsidian slop being superior once again
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There is no saving this shitheap. Time for Microsoft to write off the whole project and give Fallout/TES rights to another company. They got plenty under their umbrella, even when you forget one of them is Obsidian themselves.
Looking forward to Todd and Emil retiring in the near future. Remember, Pete "Don't care about lore" Hines already got sacrificed for his retarded PR statements before launch(for example, how you can walk on the entire surface of the planet, shortly before some mad lad leaked that you can barely walk 10 minutes in one direction before hitting an invisible wall).
 
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