Starfield - Bethesda's new space IP: will probably be full of fun and easily trackable bugs

How do you think Starfield will turn out?


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Any Bethesda game still using the archaic, hastily coded, obsolete, modified gamebryo "Creation" engine is doomed to mediocrity at best and suckage at average.
Abandon that fucking thing already. And abandon your animation engine as well.
They're already hellbent on monetizing mods and killing community efforts, so they can't even use the "We like to keep the same engine to keep our games modder-friendly. Modders understand our engines now and we don't want them to relearn everything by switching over to something different" excuse anymore.

Read what you just wrote and are trying to compare. Gamebryo by itself is a decent RPG engine, but Bethesda's modified builds are garbage. Hastily put together in an effort to assemble Morrowind 20 years ago, the reason why Bethesda games are so buggy. They use a modified engine that skipped most of it's debugging stage to save on costs and ship on time, and when the time came to update and upgrade for Oblivion, they never rewrote the engine properly or addressed the bugs and spaghetti code, but rather just built on top of it; like building a house over a rickety bridge. And they did the same thing again for F3. Their half-assed Creation engine is still based on Morrowind code so the bugs stick regardless, as with F4 and F76. You think the people who coded Morrowind still work at Beth or that BGS has a blueprint and log of engine source code from 1999? Hell, BGS Austin really must've hated Todd after he had them try and program multiplayer on an engine made for SP and that breaks so easily when trying to add more open variables like extra players.
Gamebryo is(was) just middleware, it's not a game or an engine, and there wasn't anything really wrong with it(other than the old back-to-front rendering but that might have been a Bethesda tweak). What they're always porting is their scripting engine that they integrated into old Gamebryo. Bethesda lives and dies on that scripting engine. At this point I don't think they have many people around that really understands it so they're just fixing leaks and graft things on to it. Back in 2004-2005, before the purchase of ID, John Carmack said he didn't understand how they did those games with that small of a team. Truth is that Bethesda always punched above their weight.
 
@The Fool If I am going to pay for slop, I would pay at slop prices (on sale on a 3rd party key store or something years after release). That is if it is good or becomes good. I have not bought Syrim for PC because it's only on steam (event the physical release).
 
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So if the Fallout series and Skyrim are anything to go by, individual planets will have a population anywhere between ten and fifteen people, and 12 or so structures you can explore.

And they'll be about 1km apart from each other.

"Behold our vast universe, gamers!"
Haven't you played Daggerfall? Every place can be huge and exactly the same but on different parts of the map(that is huge and exactly the same).
 
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Who asked for this? who wants to play this game if Elex 2 comes out around the same time?
 
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So if the Fallout series and Skyrim are anything to go by, individual planets will have a population anywhere between ten and fifteen people, and 12 or so structures you can explore.

And they'll be about 1km apart from each other.

"Behold our vast universe, gamers!"
to be fair, much harder to fill a 2d map than a universe. I don't doubt the actual planets will look like that, but if there are enough different locations with big enough playing fields I won't complain too much. it's not like there's a vast amount of 3d space rpgs to begin with...
 
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You can typically mod Todds games to be fun, no amount of modding can fix krautjank.
Krautjank is the fun, though.

It'd be like removing the spiciness from curry; sure it'll give you the runs later, but it wouldn't be curry without it.
 
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Krautjank is the fun, though.

It'd be like removing the spiciness from curry; sure it'll give you the runs later, but it wouldn't be curry without it.
I like my thai curry just fine and that's not super spicy and doesn't give me the runs. Slavjank is fun, all krautjank games I've played have been horrible, they're like the normal eurojank but without the fun parts of the jank, just the annoying parts.
 
I like my thai curry just fine and that's not super spicy and doesn't give me the runs. Slavjank is fun, all krautjank games I've played have been horrible, they're like the normal eurojank but without the fun parts of the jank, just the annoying parts.
Slavjank is mild, krautjank is hot.

Agree to disagree, but I'll be enjoying all spicy levels of the rainbow. Except black. Fuck the whole black pepper level, never again. Fucking random ass Chinese restaurant dropping a fucking violation of the Geneva Convention on my plate.
 
You can typically mod Todds games to be fun, no amount of modding can fix krautjank.
the only problem in the gothic series and all following series from those guys is the controlls. just get a rebinding mod and all is fine.
 
the only problem in the gothic series and all following series from those guys is the controlls. just get a rebinding mod and all is fine.
Nah, german writing is the main problem. Why can't you fags just write like normal people, the slavs are depressed fucks but at least they have a reason to be depressed. You rotten cabbage eaters make all your stories depressing despite your only real issues being the romans rightfully thinking you were retards and being such idiots you threw yourselves into wars you had no business in multiple times. Funilly enough Germans are just as retarded as the Jews.
 
Nah, german writing is the main problem. Why can't you fags just write like normal people, the slavs are depressed fucks but at least they have a reason to be depressed. You rotten cabbage eaters make all your stories depressing despite your only real issues being the romans rightfully thinking you were retards and being such idiots you threw yourselves into wars you had no business in multiple times. Funilly enough Germans are just as retarded as the Jews.
Slavs are fun depressed, enjoyable during and after; Krauts are autistic rage depressed, only enjoyable in retrospect and far removed from it.
 
Nah, german writing is the main problem. Why can't you fags just write like normal people, the slavs are depressed fucks but at least they have a reason to be depressed. You rotten cabbage eaters make all your stories depressing despite your only real issues being the romans rightfully thinking you were retards and being such idiots you threw yourselves into wars you had no business in multiple times. Funilly enough Germans are just as retarded as the Jews.
Uhhh i wanna have a happy ending or i cry...
 
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